Thai cave event

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    The news last night said they were lost for 10 days before divers found them alive in a flooded cavern......in the dark. Nooooooooooooooo thank you.
     
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      This is getting bizarre. I heard tonite it takes hours in scuba gear to reach them. Can they start digging from above to try and reach them like they did in that mine in South America. There is a very old movie about a cave rescue out west where all the media shows up. It sounds like a real
      technical quandry.
       
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        Hours? Jeebus how big are the scuba tanks?

        Im wondering if drilling down doesn't have the risk of allowing more of that surface flooding to fill up the chamber. I might be tempted to drill from below and just drain the damn thing.

        There is no reason to have tourists inside a place like this. They said the flooding isn't uncommon.
         
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          This is Trumps fault.
           
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            He probably used the weather machine that W used to kill people in New Orleans on them.
             
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              We need a worldwide ban on all caves. Have Camera Hogg be the point boy on parade.
               
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                actually I now heard 300 yards.........I must have been hallucinating
                 
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                  that is still rough work. no doubt there are stalagtites and other things in the way. very very dark water. difficult diving.

                  300 yards, a tube? then drain the water out of the tube?
                   
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                  So, these kids got stuck when it was dry, correct? Pump the ****ing water out then. The only thing the Thai's are good at is jasmine rice and spreading STD's. Dumbasses.
                   
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                  im wondering if it is more of a flowing thru situation or just a big puddle that must be pumped out. I also understand it is on a mountain and is somewhat remote so anything is difficult
                   
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                  SAS will not be happy with that statement.
                   
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                  Sounds like a great place for sightseeing.
                   
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                    I figured it looked like this. When I was in 10th Grade, Dr. Boatin (a Biology teacher) and his wife took a group of 10 of us from the 3 Dearborn high schools spelunking for a week near Renfro Valley in Kentucky and it was awesome (would love to do more). When you entered those caves, there was a pvc tube that you logged your party in on. One cave we went to started with a 1/4 mile long “tube” that you had to duck walk through to get into the system and it was prone to flash flooding. There was a party that had drown in it a couple of months before when caught in the tube when it stormed but I can’t find it on the interwebz.

                    Law, from our diving convo talk yesterday, this is another crazy thing some guys do, explore cave systems from source to exit and it used to (not many unexplored anymore) involve dumping dye in the underground river to find the exit and theyd scuba dive underwater sections.
                     
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                      Yeah, that was my idea. Ive seen tubes like that. The kids apparently swam through the one pool, it is that hairpin that will be the trouble. With a new diver Id want to try to move 2 rescue divers to one kid... but who knows if there is enough room to do it.

                      I never did cave diving and didnt do that type of rescue. We were basically a river team, doing boat races and the like. Mostly body recoveries in small ponds and lakes. Cave rescue is very specialized and I dont pretend to know even the basics.
                       
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                        UF used to have cave diving classes. I wanted to take all the scuba classes but could not afford them. Took a weigh lifting class and the teacher flew around the world recovering people from caves.
                         
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                          Yeah, crazy stuff. All the stuff I read and the guys I talked to did it in the Pyrenees mountains.
                           
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                          I was in high school and me and a friend were skipping school one day and had the radio on. A guy was being interviewed and talking about going spelunking Climax Georgia looking for interested parties to go along for the adventure. So the next day my friend Steve and I skip school again and meet up with this maybe 30-something year old stranger and off we go. Several hours later we are in Climax which is north of Tallahassee. Dude parks near the cave entrance and we retrieve his collection of spelunking gear from his trunk which includes 3 helmets that look like something you wear when whitewater rafting, 3 carbide headlamps and some rope. Steve and I were much more prepared bringing some candy bars and a Polaroid camera. We walked about 50 yards into the brush and found the entrance which was nothing more than a small hole in the ground. We slid down into the opening and about 30 feet later found ourselfs making a rather difficult descent down into the large open cavern. The lamps we had only provided enough light to illuminate the area immediately around us but we could see where other cavers had written their initials names and home towns on the walls of th4e cave with their carbide lamps. The guy we were with had a handwritten map of the cavern so we began following the trail. Through large rooms and small passageways we walked up and down trying to follow marks on the walls left by others. Those marks soon became fewer and fewer. At the time I don't think we gave any thought to retracing our steps. After a couple hours we decided to call it a day, turn around and head out. Simple! That's when we realized we were deep underground and had no clue where were. As we continued looking for the way out, occasionly we would find traces of carbon on the walls. The pathway became smaller and smaller until we were crawling on our bellies in the mud. A photo exists somewhere of me lying in the mud eating a Nestles Crunch at this spot. It was here that one of us looked under a crevice and shining the light through the maybe 12" high opening we could see the original large cavern we first entered. We had returned in the right direction but somehow got onto a parallel path. We managed to crawl under the low ceiling of the crevice into the large room and back to the mouth of the cave entrance. This only reinforced the feeling of being bulletproof and led to numerous other stupid ideas as a kid. Thinking back on that today makes me realize how stupid kids get themselves into dangerous predicaments. Mommas, don't let your babies grow up top be dumb asses. This thread made me Google Climax Cavern (there is a cave with the same name in Kentucky) and found this picture which is almost like the one of me with the candy bar.
                          [​IMG] NOT ME-taken from this link- http://www.floridacaving.com/pages/trips/Climax_6-18-05.htm
                          Pretty good pics in this link of Climax Cavern including diving
                           

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