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I think Henderson thought the ball was overthrown. Either that or he let a kid score on purpose.
This is the worst defense fielded at UF since 1946
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Worst defense I've seen in my lifetime and that goes back to something like 1974. If they are saying 1946, at least we had an excuse back then. Unlike those cowards in Georgia, (we lost to them 75-0 in 1942) most of our boys were over defending their country. Some didn't come back, some came back but didn't participate in football, some stayed in the military and helped rebuild Germany and Japan. We were horrible for about a decade after the war, absolutely the worst era of Gator football by far. That's where we are right now folks, comparable to the worst era in Gator football.
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Yeah CBS just said first time giving up 40+ points in consecutive games since 1917. 
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Florida's offense remained a problem in a lopsided loss to Missouri, but what's becoming equally clear is that the Gators have major, major issues on defense too.
A unit that used to be counted on as a perennial Top 10 unit isn't even close to that level right now.
After giving up 45 points and 455 yards to Missouri, Florida is now approaching some historical low marks defensively.
The Gators are allowing opponents to score 28.4 points per game. If the season ended today, that would be the worst scoring average allowed since 1946, when Florida gave up 29.3 points per game.
Florida's also now surrendering 372.1 yards per game, which would be the worst since allowing 384.0 yards per game in 1971.
Missouri was the second straight team to put up 21 on Florida with plenty of time remaining before halftime. After Georgia scored 21 in just the first half of the first quarter a week ago, Missouri notched 28 in the first 26 minutes.
"We couldn't get stops on the football field," coach Randy Shannon said. "That affected our young guys in the secondary. They threw a lot of deep passes on us. Earlier this season the guys were doing a great job, but those (Missouri) guys did a great job attacking the secondary in the passing game, got some easy plays, got some momentum that way."
The problem was that it wasn't just the secondary that was at fault.
Florida was dominated up front all game, failing to record a sack or quarterback hurry despite Missouri passing 21 times. The Gators also failed to get a single tackle for a loss.
Sure, injuries have taken their toll on the Gators, as several youngsters were forced into bigger roles on Saturday.
But just as evident is the overall dropoff in both depth and talent that's a direct result of Florida's lackluster recruiting in the 2015, 2016 and 2017 classes under Jim McElwain.
It's no surprise that Florida's most productive young players have also been the highest-rated ones, mostly in the secondary. The depth and talent at linebacker, where most of McElwain's commitments were three-star prospects, is noticeably lacking. David Reese simply doesn't have top-end SEC speed, Vosean Joseph can hit but seems to struggle with other aspects of the game and there aren't enough quality players to push those two for real playing time.
That's what a new coach will be working with.
The rebuild might be tougher on defense than on offense. Players after the game were at a loss for words on why things went so sideways Saturday.
"We just, I don't know. I want to say we weren't attacking as a defense," linebacker Vosean Joseph said on the post-game radio show. "The big plays really killed us, but as a defense we've just got to come back together, watch the film and try to get better."
The film, though, isn't pretty.
It's simple, really. The Gators just don't have the players they used to on defense. And it may take some time to fully restock the cupboard there.
https://florida.247sports.com/Bolt/...-means-UF-faces-a-defensive-rebuild-109941147
A unit that used to be counted on as a perennial Top 10 unit isn't even close to that level right now.
After giving up 45 points and 455 yards to Missouri, Florida is now approaching some historical low marks defensively.
The Gators are allowing opponents to score 28.4 points per game. If the season ended today, that would be the worst scoring average allowed since 1946, when Florida gave up 29.3 points per game.
Florida's also now surrendering 372.1 yards per game, which would be the worst since allowing 384.0 yards per game in 1971.
Missouri was the second straight team to put up 21 on Florida with plenty of time remaining before halftime. After Georgia scored 21 in just the first half of the first quarter a week ago, Missouri notched 28 in the first 26 minutes.
"We couldn't get stops on the football field," coach Randy Shannon said. "That affected our young guys in the secondary. They threw a lot of deep passes on us. Earlier this season the guys were doing a great job, but those (Missouri) guys did a great job attacking the secondary in the passing game, got some easy plays, got some momentum that way."
The problem was that it wasn't just the secondary that was at fault.
Florida was dominated up front all game, failing to record a sack or quarterback hurry despite Missouri passing 21 times. The Gators also failed to get a single tackle for a loss.
Sure, injuries have taken their toll on the Gators, as several youngsters were forced into bigger roles on Saturday.
But just as evident is the overall dropoff in both depth and talent that's a direct result of Florida's lackluster recruiting in the 2015, 2016 and 2017 classes under Jim McElwain.
It's no surprise that Florida's most productive young players have also been the highest-rated ones, mostly in the secondary. The depth and talent at linebacker, where most of McElwain's commitments were three-star prospects, is noticeably lacking. David Reese simply doesn't have top-end SEC speed, Vosean Joseph can hit but seems to struggle with other aspects of the game and there aren't enough quality players to push those two for real playing time.
That's what a new coach will be working with.
The rebuild might be tougher on defense than on offense. Players after the game were at a loss for words on why things went so sideways Saturday.
"We just, I don't know. I want to say we weren't attacking as a defense," linebacker Vosean Joseph said on the post-game radio show. "The big plays really killed us, but as a defense we've just got to come back together, watch the film and try to get better."
The film, though, isn't pretty.
It's simple, really. The Gators just don't have the players they used to on defense. And it may take some time to fully restock the cupboard there.
https://florida.247sports.com/Bolt/...-means-UF-faces-a-defensive-rebuild-109941147
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2007, we had a poster saying this year lined up just like 2006 in August.
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I don’t know, but I can say with relative confidence they weren’t wearing gator skin uniforms.
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How is Foley not culpable?
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It’s amusing in hindsight, this brilliant idea yours truly came up with during the recent open week, tossing out the notion of trying to replace that lost 12th game on the schedule during the final weekend of the regular season, since Florida was obviously not going to be in Atlanta. Even found a worthy team or two that also had a game cancelled back in September – sounded grand – and posted such pointed insight on our message board.
My bad. What I meant to say was that instead of adding a game in December, could we just cancel the November slate of four upcoming games, since the Gators apparently have little interest in competing? Please?
In an extremely small sense, last week’s disgraceful performance against Georgia could be slightly, ever so slightly, excused due to the circumstances surrounding embattled (now former) head coach Jim McElwain. But this . . . there’s no soft-soaping what took place in the heartlands, when the Gators went through the motions in a half-hearted display, falling 45-16 to a Missouri team that was not only winless in four SEC attempts this season, but had won just three of its past 20 conference games.
For those keeping score, that’s 42-7 and 45-16 in the span of seven days, the first time in 46 years the Gators have given up 40-plus points in consecutive losses (40-7 to Auburn and 49-7 to Georgia in 1971). Yes last week came at the hands of a team some deem the best in the country. This afternoon, we’re talking about Missouri.
So after going 0-for-October for just the fourth time in the last 70 years (1973, 1979 and 2011 were the others since 1947), the Gators began the Oh-No-November with a disinterested outing that dropped the ledger to 3-5 overall, 3-4 in the SEC. And with another road match on the horizon against another team that likely will care in South Carolina next Saturday, the very real possibility of a losing record and no bowl game in 2017 exists.
For all the coaching ineptness we are treated to week after week after week, this shameful performance rests on the shoulders of the players. Yes opting to kick field goals while trailing 14-0, 28-3 and 28-6 is sheer lunacy, but given how little effort was extended by the Gator defense, it really wasn’t an issue. Trailing 7-0 late in the first quarter, the Gators had the Tigers pinned on their own 2-yard line, an excellent opportunity to get the ball back in positive field position, which basically never happens for this offense. Instead, the Tigers easily marched 98 yards, overcoming a 15-yard offensive pass interference call for good measure. It was 14-0 less than five minutes into the second quarter, a clear indication the Gator defense was elsewhere on this gray afternoon.
And let’s face it, if Florida’s defense decides to sleep in, this team has no chance. It’s not like the special teams are going to raise its level of play, or that the offense, no matter the quarterback, is going to step up and deliver. Nope it’s just more of the same ugly play and when you toss in a healthy dose of disinterest, you get a 29-point loss to Missouri. Missouri, for crying out loud!
There is no excuse for the lack of inspiration, the lack of preparation, the lack of motivation, to win a game for the first time since late September. For a team that the former head coach always praised for “playing their tails off,” the effort was half-baked at best. No matter the circumstance, if you’re going to pull on the Florida jersey, there is no excuse for lying down.
It’s almost incredible how little emotion the Gators demonstrate at the outset of the game. Pretty much all teams show some fire upon kickoff, except these Gators. The result is always nothing positive by the time the teams swap sides to begin the second quarter.
The Gators have been outscored 62-16 in the first quarter this season, that’s one touchdown and three field goals scored in eight games. Only once this season, against partner-in-hapless Tennessee, did Florida emerge from the first quarter with a lead (all of 3-0). How can a team never be ready to play on the opening kickoff?
And what will it take to show some resolve to fight after getting knocked down? For the 10th time in 35 games under this group of coaches, the Gators lost by double digits, with seven setbacks by more than 20 points. That’s 20 percent of the time since the start of 2015 the Gators have gotten smacked by at least 20 points. Pitiful.
It’s been a lost season in every sense imaginable, and there’s little reason to think the Gators will exert much energy on the road at South Carolina next week. If they care, they’re probably good enough to beat UAB in two weeks in what will surely be the sparsest crowd in recent Swamp history. A season-ending victory over Florida State would surely salvage some of the pride that has been absent the last few weeks, but the likelihood of both teams entering the unsightly contest with matching 4-6 records is quite real.
Of course, Gator fans are looking beyond, wishing nothing more than to fast-forward to the end of the month and the opportunity to select the new coach, to begin the process of moving ahead and picking up the pieces of this once-proud but fractured program.
In the midst of interim coach-type stuff, we always hear the concept floated that it’s a time to “audition” for the future, for players and coaches. Unfortunately the Gators weren’t interested in such folly on Saturday, but can’t simply drop the curtain on this mess.
Instead we’ll probably hear about trying to qualify for a bowl game, or sending the seniors out right, or how much it would mean to beat Florida State (since no player in the locker room has tasted that nectar). But no team has talked more and delivered less than this one, which might just wind up being the sad legacy the departed coach leaves behind.
https://florida.247sports.com/Artic...tball-No-Excuse-for-Shameful-Effort-109943846
My bad. What I meant to say was that instead of adding a game in December, could we just cancel the November slate of four upcoming games, since the Gators apparently have little interest in competing? Please?
In an extremely small sense, last week’s disgraceful performance against Georgia could be slightly, ever so slightly, excused due to the circumstances surrounding embattled (now former) head coach Jim McElwain. But this . . . there’s no soft-soaping what took place in the heartlands, when the Gators went through the motions in a half-hearted display, falling 45-16 to a Missouri team that was not only winless in four SEC attempts this season, but had won just three of its past 20 conference games.
For those keeping score, that’s 42-7 and 45-16 in the span of seven days, the first time in 46 years the Gators have given up 40-plus points in consecutive losses (40-7 to Auburn and 49-7 to Georgia in 1971). Yes last week came at the hands of a team some deem the best in the country. This afternoon, we’re talking about Missouri.
So after going 0-for-October for just the fourth time in the last 70 years (1973, 1979 and 2011 were the others since 1947), the Gators began the Oh-No-November with a disinterested outing that dropped the ledger to 3-5 overall, 3-4 in the SEC. And with another road match on the horizon against another team that likely will care in South Carolina next Saturday, the very real possibility of a losing record and no bowl game in 2017 exists.
For all the coaching ineptness we are treated to week after week after week, this shameful performance rests on the shoulders of the players. Yes opting to kick field goals while trailing 14-0, 28-3 and 28-6 is sheer lunacy, but given how little effort was extended by the Gator defense, it really wasn’t an issue. Trailing 7-0 late in the first quarter, the Gators had the Tigers pinned on their own 2-yard line, an excellent opportunity to get the ball back in positive field position, which basically never happens for this offense. Instead, the Tigers easily marched 98 yards, overcoming a 15-yard offensive pass interference call for good measure. It was 14-0 less than five minutes into the second quarter, a clear indication the Gator defense was elsewhere on this gray afternoon.
And let’s face it, if Florida’s defense decides to sleep in, this team has no chance. It’s not like the special teams are going to raise its level of play, or that the offense, no matter the quarterback, is going to step up and deliver. Nope it’s just more of the same ugly play and when you toss in a healthy dose of disinterest, you get a 29-point loss to Missouri. Missouri, for crying out loud!
There is no excuse for the lack of inspiration, the lack of preparation, the lack of motivation, to win a game for the first time since late September. For a team that the former head coach always praised for “playing their tails off,” the effort was half-baked at best. No matter the circumstance, if you’re going to pull on the Florida jersey, there is no excuse for lying down.
It’s almost incredible how little emotion the Gators demonstrate at the outset of the game. Pretty much all teams show some fire upon kickoff, except these Gators. The result is always nothing positive by the time the teams swap sides to begin the second quarter.
The Gators have been outscored 62-16 in the first quarter this season, that’s one touchdown and three field goals scored in eight games. Only once this season, against partner-in-hapless Tennessee, did Florida emerge from the first quarter with a lead (all of 3-0). How can a team never be ready to play on the opening kickoff?
And what will it take to show some resolve to fight after getting knocked down? For the 10th time in 35 games under this group of coaches, the Gators lost by double digits, with seven setbacks by more than 20 points. That’s 20 percent of the time since the start of 2015 the Gators have gotten smacked by at least 20 points. Pitiful.
It’s been a lost season in every sense imaginable, and there’s little reason to think the Gators will exert much energy on the road at South Carolina next week. If they care, they’re probably good enough to beat UAB in two weeks in what will surely be the sparsest crowd in recent Swamp history. A season-ending victory over Florida State would surely salvage some of the pride that has been absent the last few weeks, but the likelihood of both teams entering the unsightly contest with matching 4-6 records is quite real.
Of course, Gator fans are looking beyond, wishing nothing more than to fast-forward to the end of the month and the opportunity to select the new coach, to begin the process of moving ahead and picking up the pieces of this once-proud but fractured program.
In the midst of interim coach-type stuff, we always hear the concept floated that it’s a time to “audition” for the future, for players and coaches. Unfortunately the Gators weren’t interested in such folly on Saturday, but can’t simply drop the curtain on this mess.
Instead we’ll probably hear about trying to qualify for a bowl game, or sending the seniors out right, or how much it would mean to beat Florida State (since no player in the locker room has tasted that nectar). But no team has talked more and delivered less than this one, which might just wind up being the sad legacy the departed coach leaves behind.
https://florida.247sports.com/Artic...tball-No-Excuse-for-Shameful-Effort-109943846
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It's all on that son of a b*tch...all of it!!!
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agreed, as bad as some of those fools were like dickey and chump, at least we were competitive and the team played with some level of attitude. This team is the softest bunch of candyassed p*ssies Ive ever seen in orange and blue. And after they get their
pushed in, half of them get on twitter and whine about the fans.The next coach should just start revoking schollies.
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And the worst offenses too. However the other six or so worst offenses also occurred in the last five years. I guess we are just numb to that and consider it playing "old school" football.
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