This looks really bad (Callaway news)

[InstiGATOR1]

Well,

1. I too hope for justice in this matter, whatever justice is.

2. Sexual battery is I believe the term used in Florida law, not rape. Sexual assault would technically be the threat of sexual battery but then it is ESPN so it is expected to be inaccurate.

3. If this were a money grab from the kids, sending the 5' something "QB" down the road and letting the potential 3 year WR set himself up for the 2018 NFL draft would be the way to go. That the complaining student seemingly agreed to such a deal and is now balking is curious.

4. If there were a deal in place as reported, then it makes sense for UF to appoint someone to hear this who would not blow up the deal. That the complaining student then blew up this deal is puzzling.

 

[GatorInGeorgia]

Well,

1. I too hope for justice in this matter, whatever justice is.

2. Sexual battery is I believe the term used in Florida law, not rape. Sexual assault would technically be the threat of sexual battery but then it is ESPN so it is expected to be inaccurate.

3. If this were a money grab from the kids, sending the 5' something "QB" down the road and letting the potential 3 year WR set himself up for the 2018 NFL draft would be the way to go. That the complaining student seemingly agreed to such a deal and is now balking is curious.

4. If there were a deal in place as reported, then it makes sense for UF to appoint someone to hear this who would not blow up the deal. That the complaining student then blew up this deal is puzzling.

The money grab, if that was the intent, would be against UF if they didn't follow proper procedure complying with Title IX. It isn't even dependent on whether the allegations are true. It really can be technicalities and procedure (or lack of proper procedure). The FSU case is a perfect example.

 

[Jenny On The Railroad]

Who was the moron that appointed a UF booster/former UF athlete/Former trustee at Levin to run the hearing?

Sorry but I am freaking disappointed in this. We're not FSU or Bama. This stinks.

I am late to the party here, so no doubt this has been covered, but-.
This could so easily have been avoided. Instead UF set itself up to be played by a lawyer who was reaching to find a reason to threaten a suit in order to pressure UF into a settlement down the line. He went to ESPN to set the stage for the next move, because the case is weak, and he needs to make UF look like it is covering up. UF has been very careful. Sorry to see them drop the ball so close to a conclusion and give him probably the only ammo he has to use against the school. IF UF's choice was a problem, he could have much earlier requested a different person. He didn't. He waited and then pulled a stunt that was worthy of Winston's lawyer..

 

[chferg]

WTF? You have Treon who has now been accused TWICE of the same crime and someone who we really dont know very well along side of him. How can anyone point fingers at the woman? Nobody knows her or her morals.

I know things Ive witnessed first hand at bitches trying to destroy people...

I trust no women unless their is evidence; hell I trust no one until I see evidence

 

[chferg]

Congratulations on making history. The first dislike I've ever given.

Congrats on being another poster that I could give a **** less about...

You can go **** yourself for all I care

 

[LagoonGator68]

FRIDAY UPDATE. ......Florida assistant vice president for media relations and public affairs Janine Sikes provided the following statement regarding the school’s process for choosing a hearing officer.

“Our student conduct process may be handled by a hearing officer, who could be a university employee or an outside professional, or by a committee of faculty and students. Any hearing officer and all committee members are trained and vetted for their impartiality. A hearing officer or committee member would not be disqualified or lack objectivity simply because he or she had been a student athlete decades earlier or purchases athletic tickets as more than 90,000 people do each year.”

due to state and federal law, it is unable to comment on any specific student disciplinary matter. However, Florida assistant vice president for media relations and public affairs Janine Sikes provided the following statement regarding the school’s process for choosing a hearing officer.

“Our student conduct process may be handled by a hearing officer, who could be a university employee or an outside professional, or by a committee of faculty and students. Any hearing officer and all committee members are trained and vetted for their impartiality. A hearing officer or committee member would not be disqualified or lack objectivity simply because he or she had been a student athlete decades earlier or purchases athletic tickets as more than 90,000 people do each year.”

 

[T REX]

"Clune's letter also said he emailed Hass "suggestions of organizations that can connect you with independent hearing officers that aren't boosters of Mr. Calloway's football team. I have put your office in touch with the Department of Education, Office for Civil Rights, who has expressed their concern about the impartiality of the hearing officer. Nonetheless, these efforts have all fallen on deaf ears and UF seems even more determined to move forward with their selection"

So I guess we can put to rest the idea that some posters on this board want to cling to about this being a last minute stunt by Clune. Sounds like he was proactive in asking the University to choose an impartial hearing officer.

 

[LagoonGator68]

"Clune's letter also said he emailed Hass "suggestions of organizations that can connect you with independent hearing officers that aren't boosters of Mr. Calloway's football team. I have put your office in touch with the Department of Education, Office for Civil Rights, who has expressed their concern about the impartiality of the hearing officer. Nonetheless, these efforts have all fallen on deaf ears and UF seems even more determined to move forward with their selection"

So I guess we can put to rest the idea that some posters on this board want to cling to about this being a last minute stunt by Clune. Sounds like he was proactive in asking the University to choose an impartial hearing officer.

Linky dinky?

 

[LeeForThree]

Well,

1. I too hope for justice in this matter, whatever justice is.

2. Sexual battery is I believe the term used in Florida law, not rape. Sexual assault would technically be the threat of sexual battery but then it is ESPN so it is expected to be inaccurate.

3. If this were a money grab from the kids, sending the 5' something "QB" down the road and letting the potential 3 year WR set himself up for the 2018 NFL draft would be the way to go. That the complaining student seemingly agreed to such a deal and is now balking is curious.

4. If there were a deal in place as reported, then it makes sense for UF to appoint someone to hear this who would not blow up the deal. That the complaining student then blew up this deal is puzzling.

Did I miss something?....what deal?

 

[T REX]

Linky dinky?

It's from one of the articles...I didn't magically create it. Geez

 

[LagoonGator68]

It's from one of the articles...I didn't magically create it. Geez

 

[LagoonGator68]

It's from one of the articles...I didn't magically create it. Geez

http://abc7chicago.com/sports/accus...-florida-gets-booster-to-handle-case/1458364/

 

[Gatorphan]

This is a mountain out of a mole hill situation. I'm betting this all works out exactly how it's supposed to!

 

[chferg]

This is a mountain out of a mole hill situation. I'm betting this all works out exactly how it's supposed to!

^ exactly

 

[InstiGATOR1]

Did I miss something?....what deal?

NVGator has a post on page 2 that begins with this in a quote box:

"ESPN reports that Harris’s recent decision to transfer from Florida was “part of a plea deal” reached in this case"

If correct then naturally you pick someone to hear this that will not blow up the deal. If correct, then UF's worry is someone with credentials to conduct the hearing that they have faith in. Impartiality is not important as the two sides have struck a deal.

If this report is correct, then one wonders why the deal was blown up? It sounds like the complaining student and attorney did and one has to wonder if the "deal" was a set up to make UF look bad when they complained about the person picked to hear the rules violation and walked.

 

[rogdochar]

All that I read was that Treon Harris made his deal. Callaway chose to deny her allegations and to defend
himself against those allegations. There was not a deal involving Callaway.

That ABC7chicago article mentions no timeline referencing Clune's informing UF about other arbiters --
so unless an actual date is established, Clune's other arbiters contact of UF still may have occurred at
the "last minute". Lawyers are precise, so where is the date of his notifying UF about his suggested replacement
adjudicators. This claim should be precisely established as it cast dispersions on UF's handling this. And that
would snap right into a big money case against UF.

I agree that UF, on its own should never have chosen anyone carrying the appearance of unfair bias.
That mess-up hurts UF and Callaway's standing... really stupid for a guardian of Title IX standards.

For my thinking, there are too many imprecisions in this case:

1) no police report, which is what a claimant should want to strengthen her case ? A case that cannot be
strengthened by officials' examination and written declarations by LE specialists versed in handling sex assault
cases, worries me.

2) The press implying that a deal was made involving Callaway, tints him a shade guilty. (Though he may be
guilty, the press's implication is an unevenness I stump my toe on.)

3) UF's terrible choice of an arbitrator bugs the heck out of me, but that is certainly not any of Callaway's fault.

4) Our knowledge of the very cogent "facts" in this case is inadequate to sustain reasoned debate.

5) It seems to me that I am safe feeling proud that UF has not disparaged the claimant any. Yet all these
months Callaway has been diminished, been exiled from his college, from his sport, etc. That's only
well and good if he is guilty of sexual assault, but if an unbiased arbiter finds him not culpable where's the
fairness in this ordeal ?

These situations, violations need better handling than this path. Of course, if Treon Harris & Callaway assaulted
this young lady as a duo on the same occasion, then that weakens Callaway's "truth". I think it would be much
better if such stuff were handled swifter for all concerned.

 

[TN G8tr]

This had to have been settled of Mac would not have let Callaway back on the field. UF does need to make sure its impartial process for all involved. Much better job should have been done. Like Phan said the media now is blowing this up. UF and Mac knew this would be coming. Not sure what to think, guilty, not, impartial, etc. We'll probably never know the whole situation. But IMO Harris transferring as part of the deal......just as confusing. Was he guilty, needed to get away, or did UF say you need to go? Either way, Freon gone, a good thing for all involved.

 

[MJMGator]

This had to have been settled of Mac would not have let Callaway back on the field. UF does need to make sure its impartial process for all involved. Much better job should have been done. Like Phan said the media now is blowing this up. UF and Mac knew this would be coming. Not sure what to think, guilty, not, impartial, etc. We'll probably never know the whole situation. But IMO Harris transferring as part of the deal......just as confusing. Was he guilty, needed to get away, or did UF say you need to go? Either way, Freon gone, a good thing for all involved.

While I doubt there was any admission of guilt, I suspect Treon was encouraged to leave because this was the second allegation of this nature he's endured while here. Title IX requires the university to provide a safe atmosphere and he needed to go.

 

[Lake Gator]

You know. I have to edit that. I quoted the wrong person. I don't think I dislike d your post? I'm pretty sure I disliked chferg's post.

While I doubt there was any admission of guilt, I suspect Treon was encouraged to leave because this was the second allegation of this nature he's endured while here. Title IX requires the university to provide a safe atmosphere and he needed to go.

Unintended consequences of Title IX? Keep UF campus safe by shipping off student-athlete to another campus to provide an unsafe environment there. Great.

I have a lot of thoughts on this subject but I'll be brief...follow the money.

 

[alcoholica]

This had to have been settled of Mac would not have let Callaway back on the field. UF does need to make sure its impartial process for all involved. Much better job should have been done. Like Phan said the media now is blowing this up. UF and Mac knew this would be coming. Not sure what to think, guilty, not, impartial, etc. We'll probably never know the whole situation. But IMO Harris transferring as part of the deal......just as confusing. Was he guilty, needed to get away, or did UF say you need to go? Either way, Freon gone, a good thing for all involved.

I think we were just looking for a way to get rid of Treon. The deal probably included something that would keep his student record clean so a transfer would be easier. If he's been accused twice, then there is some behavior issues. Not saying he was ever guilty, but he must have a reputation that makes him a target for this...guilty or not.