Thomas Jefferson is a racist and rapist

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  1. diehardg8r

    diehardg8r Junior Member

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    Chanted last night at UVA as BLM protesters took to the street and covered up a statue of Thomas Jefferson in front of the rotunda. Not sure where he University or campus police were during all of this but that school is allowing it's reputation to be destroyed and it will be interesting to see how there funding and enrollment goes in the coming future. There FB team is a dumpster fire....that much I am sure of.
     
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    Only a matter of time before they physically remove the statues themselves and only get slaps on the wrist. It’s a small price to pay, because they know the statues will never be replaced.
     
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    t's the end of the world as we know it (I had some time alone)
    It's the end of the world as we know it (I had some time alone)
    It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine (time I had some time alone)
    I feel fine (I feel fine)…

    We knew this about Jefferson when the books came out. But was it technically rape when he owned her? Is Bill Cosby any
    more guilty or as shocking? Night is day. War is peace. I guess the real question is how can a man so smart, so ahead of his time that helped create our country have been so insensitive to other human beings despite their hue? He was a man of that time we always hear. This is what happens when you deify mortal humans. We discover they are not a Jesus like as we imagine. The day they find out Timmy is some sort of perv is the day I turn in my Pollyanna card. We need a statesman right now to put all of this historical hysteria into perspective. I nominate David McCollough...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_McCullough.....But since he is dead I nominate Alex. You probably think I side with tearing down all the FF statues. You would be wrong. I side with letting people have their say (gasp) and then pointing out how our country is not or ever has been perfect and a dialogue on race, history and our commonalities is better than trying to shout each other down................fwiw I rank Jefferson up there with the 3 greatest men of all time in our history.
     
    • diehardg8r

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      Ah yes, that all telling truthful books. The ones we pick and choose to believe based on our own attitudes and beliefs. I'm sure you also believe all the Clinton women accusing him of rape and all the books written supporting those claims?
       
      • Durty South Swamp

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        This is a solid post, minus the books prove it part, but sadly, your posting history doesn't really parallel this post.
         
      • diehardg8r

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        They don't have DNA to prove anything, they have DNA evidence that says it's possible and they all jumped on it and it became a consensus.
         
      • Zambo

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        Whether he did this or that, TJ was a man of his times. He didn't invent slavery. The United States didn't invent slavery. Maybe we should erase the history books of everybody except Jesus.
         
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          Haven't the Public School Libraries already done that?
           
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            Well I don't know but probably. The point is that if we are going to go with the logic that if somebody was less than perfect then we need to erase them from history, then the history books are going to be awfully skinny.
             
            • Lake Gator

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              I didn't know T. Jeff personally. And I doubt anyone in Charlottesville did either. He seemed to be a helluva writer from what I can tell.
               
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                And it should have been "was". As far as I can tell he has been dead for a long time.
                 
              • diehardg8r

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                I just find BLM outrage over what TJ may or may not have done comical. Blacks gun each other down in the streets everyday and you can't get a single soul to come forward with eyewitness testimony but they are all bent about Thomas Jefferson. Selective outrage to fit the narrative.
                 
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                  we have bibles in our library. Both schools..............
                   
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                  Exactly. History is what it is........."erasing" any of it will just make us more ignorant as a free people than we seem to be now.
                   
                  • Swamp Donkey

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                    When they are done with this, there won't be a statue of any democrats left standing.
                     
                    • Okeechobee Joe

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                      If Robert E. Lee comes down then Thomas Jefferson will have to come down. If Thomas Jefferson comes down then the United States of America comes down.
                       
                    • Frozen Gator

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                      That's been the plan all along. I think racism is just the vessel that is convenient at this time.
                       
                    • Scott512

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                      Black lives matter and the Democratic National Committee still think this is a winning strategy. Doubtful. I'm sure calling one of the founders of our country a racist and rapist will go over very well in the middle of the country. ;)
                       
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                      very selective indeed.
                       
                    • diehardg8r

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                      That not even in question for me. The silent majority of those absolutely fed up with this crap is going to reach the point of saturation sooner or later and run some of these college presidents and politicians out of town......at least that's my hope.
                       

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