Trump approval rating higher than Obama and Reagan at same point in presidencies

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  1. oxrageous

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          1. Obama's policies/the Fed led to the economy

          2..the illegals are still here and the border is just as secure as it was under Obama who deported more illegals than Bush and Clinton

          3. Wrong. Look at all these mass shootings that are happening and Trump has done zip.

          4. Giving NK the press they want makes the US look weak

          5. No. They're too busy working with his administration for access
           
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            Trump's deporting fewer illegals because fewer are trying to come in. They're afraid of Trump. Nobody feared Obama.
             
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            You cannot possibly believe this idiocy. Obama had the worst economic policies in history.
             
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              This falls into the see-if-it-sticks category.
               
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                He has gone native. Too long in San Fran.
                 
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                No, here is the scoop. Obama let every illegal who came in the country get a bond or oral promise to show up at immigration court in a few years. Surprise surprise, 97% or so didnt show up. The judge bangs the gavel, signs the deportation order and voila, they add another "deportation" stat. And it can all be done with no one ever leavingntue country.

                The stat that DHS has always used was number of signed deportation orders, not the number of people who actually leave. And they still do today.

                Is the judge banging the gavel less now? Yes. The hearings take loger when there is actually a respondent present.

                Are more people being returned to their home countries? Probably twenty times as many.
                 
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                  Wrong again. Your memory is betraying you again Old man 78. July 1981-Nov 1982 was a recession. Sorry to have to prove you wrong again.

                  I was referring to.the initial Reagan stock market rally which liked the tax cuts like it did recently for Trump. I did not say the high rates snuffed out the economy long term as you incorrectly claimed I did.

                  The way it played out was when Reagan met with Volcker as the new President he said finish the job fighting inflation with the high rates which pounded the economy and inflation. Politically Reagan knew he could blame the prior President and take his inflation medicine. He had Volcker eventually later lower rates so the economy started cranking again for Reagan's next Presidential election..
                   
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                    Your take is simply wrong that there was no recession during Reagan.

                    Volcker's initial high rates to fight inflation during Reagan kept the economy down short run not the proposed tax cuts. Volcker was grilled before Congress because his high rates to fight inflation was initially killing the economy.The tax rate cut proposals pushed the stock market up initially. It was called the Reagan rally.

                    Volcker eventually lowered rates (after the initial Reagan Fed rate rise to fight inflation ). The eventual lowered rates in conjunction with the tax cuts pulled the economy out of the initial Reagan recession and had the economy cranking for Reagan's re election campaign.


                    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/12/11/business/economy/fed-interest-rates-history.html
                     
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                    Complete denuclearization! Unbelievable and presidt Trump better soar in the polls now or they really are fakest polls of all time.

                    This great news should help Trump get re elected in 2020 and should help Republicans keep the House and Senate in 2018.
                     
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                      I never said the tax cuts held down the economy. What a typical idiot retort by you. I said they were not the driver, that deregulation was, and it in fact was. Reagan inherited a recession from Carter. Volcker and Reagan together got us out of it, Volcker as Fed chairman and Reagan as chief executive who presided over the largest deregulation movement in history. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?

                      You penned your post as if Reagan controlled the Fed. The "Reagan Fed." As if Volcker was taking his cues from Reagan.

                      I enjoy your posts for the comedic value only. You apparently took your first economics course in the winter and you're here trying to flex your 98-pound beach body.
                       
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                      Maybe Barack even thinks he has his fingerprints on the North Korea denuclearization agreement. ;)
                       
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                      Thanks I needed that! :bwahaha:

                      I wonder what Hitlery Clinton thinks of this historic agreement lead by President Trump. Hmmm.
                       
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                        I won't pretend to be a student of economics nor history. I do look to posters in this forum to educate me on some of those aspects. Hoewever, I have great difficulty with people who contradict their own words. Even moreso when it is in a single post.
                         

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