Trump's Budget

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    You crack me up every time you say this... "conservatives" have answered your question on this about 150 times in the last 6-12 months, but you keep asking the same question. There's a word for that by definition, but it escapes me. ;)
     
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      Anything to do with that man made global warming nonsense needs to be cut entirely.
       
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        then don't participate... easy enough
         
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        A couple things. First, one is left wondering whether the authors of this piece have any real familiarity with Trump's proposals. For example, as regards EPA, it preserves grant funding to states and Indian tribes and draws down on headquarters spending which, interestingly enough, includes a number of employees who spend much of their government day apologetically viewing pornography.

        Second, the concern about Trump breaking the law seems interesting. Obama, of course, never let the law interfere with what he was doing and I don't recall any liberal criticism of that fact.
         
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        do you expect his budget to get through with a trillion on infrastructure?
         
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        Why wouldn't it? There aren't enough conservatives in Congress to stop it. There's what, like 40 people in the Freedom Caucus and none of them have the name Ryan, so sure, it'll pass easy. Why wouldn't conservatives expect it to get through?
         
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          Budget? I thought we didn't need no steenking budget?
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          :dunno: I expected lots of Republicans to get their backs up about what he wants to spend... Plus, weren't there mandated limits voted on and passed a few years ago on how much can be spent on the military now? Are they not operating under the rules of sequestration any longer?
           
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          Oh, I see, as usual, and as you just did again, you meant "Republicans" but said "conservatives" and then switched and are now switching the subject from infrastructure to military. Correct?
          PS You are now confusing sequestration as it applies to continuing resolutions with a new actual budget.
           
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            sorry i tried to have a conversation with you... Not sure why you are so condescending all of the time... I ask a question out of curiosity. You can share your anger with someone else.
             
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            Budget experts say the country has not seen anything remotely like Trump's plan for decades, and the most recent historical analogue is the first budget of President Ronald Reagan, which similarly slashed domestic social programs to fund a gargantuan increase in military spending.

            As you may remember, that didn't work out so well.

            The deficit soared, government spending and the number of federal workers increased despite Reagan's promises to bring them down, shuttered federal programs had to be reopened, and number of people living in poverty shot up.

            "Reagan found that his budget went too far too fast and increased the deficit by too much," said Collender. "He had to backtrack. He signed four tax increases after that."

            Collender worries that if he found himself in a similar situation, Trump may not be willing to take the steps Reagan took to contain the damage. "I don't think Trump is the same kind of president as Reagan. He's not as experienced in government, and I don't think he feels the same level of responsibility," he said. "I think he is more willing to break the china."
             
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            Under Reagan, I seem to remember the economy recovering from the Jimmy Carter "malaise" period and taking off with fantastic growth. Taxes were cut dramatically although Reagan was unable to get the budget cuts he had hoped for from the entrenched liberal "tax and spend" Congress. Just think, if Reagan had succeeded in his plans to cut just the Departments of Energy and Education, our deficit today would be some $2 trillion less than it is.

            And, of course, Reagan's defense build up was the basis for the victory in the Cold War.
             
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            You question condescension in here. It is the step before name calling. Get used to it. When you are as stupid and clueless as all us other libs you have to get used to things like this. Man up GMD. :sadnanner:
             
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            I think you lefties need to get L-boy back here quickly so he can help defend you guys against the darkside.
             
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            Condescending? He asked what "conservatives" thought, I answered.
             
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              The budget does not yet exist, just some framework. That said I expect the following:

              Many domestic programs will either be eliminated or reduced, if congress passes a budget for these things the administration just won't spend it.

              On infrastructure I expect it to take some time which we really don't have mostly because politicos are highly resistant to doing what is required and that is to raise the fuel tax.

              I expect corporate tax reform to be a no brainer and personal to follow as long as the high income people pay bascially the same. How can you justify a subsidy for say 100K electric cars, or for wind energy that benefits the wealthy?

              Time will tell but if Dems just resist there may be 60 republican senators next election.

              Now as important, the new supreme court judge needs to be confirmed followed by many others at lower levels. Thi scan influence how the courts operate for many years. Not to mention that the 9th circuit needs to be made into either two or better three new districts. A massive change that would greatly improve the appeals courts.

              I expect the military to both get more total money and to remove waste which nobody has been able to do for decades. Yes the sequester will be broken since that was a game played by Dems to get more domestic spending. That did not work too well since it was part of the reason Trump beat Hillary.

              Time will of course tell.
               
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              Condescension is in the eye of the beholder.

              For instance, this statement fairly drips with it.

              Or maybe that's just me.
               
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                As for the budget, he's going to have a lot of explaining to do as to how he plans to pay for his wish list. And that's just what it is right now, a wish list.
                 
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                "Condescension," the new "Oh yeah?"
                 

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