Recruiting Welcome Safety Donavan Stiner

[Swamp Donkey]

6'1" / 185 / #9 Safety in Texas.

He's listed as a *high 3 Star

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/4566

FIFY. Rivals agrees though, high 3 star (5.7). 5.5 is low 3 star, 5.6 is middle. 5.8 is a 4 star.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

247 Sports

Stop quoting this 247 shyt or you will be banned.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

He's been hanging with James Robinson.

That is a High Times 3 star.

FWIW, Nav is a 4 star and Bart is a 5 star.

 

[alcoholica]

FWIW, he was originally a Baylor commit. Not sure if we are really taking him as a SS or a LB project.

 

[deuce]

FWIW, he was originally a Baylor commit. Not sure if we are really taking him as a SS or a LB project.

He was a Houston committ

 

[alcoholica]

He was a Houston committ

As I said he was ORIGINALLY a Baylor commit

 

[GatorBart]

who changed the national signing day title to national mourning day?

That was a few days ago. Busy weekend, eh?

 

[oxrageous]

you didn't know that....where the phuck have you been?

Well, I've been desperately trying not to pay too close attention to recruiting these days. We're so defensive of being 3-Star U that now we're saying, "yeah, but he's a HIGH 3-star!"

We're dead.

 

[GR8 2B]

All of the 3* Gators commits for comparison (5.8 would make them a 4*):

Donovan Stiner RR 5.7
Nicholas Smith RR 5.5
Shawn Dacis RR 5.6
Zechariah Byrd RR 5.5
James Houston RR 5.7
Ventrell Miller RR 5.7
Kadarius Toney 5.6
Jake Allen 5.7

https://florida.rivals.com/commitments/football/2017

Thank you very much, 2222! So much better than a lot of posters here make it sound.

 

[oxrageous]

Georgia has 20 4-star players right now. 20.

 

[T REX]

Thank you very much, 2222! So much better than a lot of posters here made it sound.

It's as bad as it sounds. High three stars are still three stars.

 

[EyeDocGator]

FWIW, he was originally a Baylor commit. Not sure if we are really taking him as a SS or a LB project.

He weighs 185 pounds. He better not be a linebacker. He needs to add 25 pounds to play safety.

 

[GatorStud]

Nothing significantly improves our roster depth and development short term this cycle. It's like you can almost touch it... we're just a couple of 2theHouse types, sack your a$$ in the backfield types, QB delivering in clutch 3D, special dragster returning kicks away from being really Great again. o_O

 

[maheo30]

Am I supposed to be excited or should I cry?

 

[GR8 2B]

It's as bad as it sounds. High three stars are still three stars.

I agree with your repeated statement that stars count, but how much of a real difference do you think there is between subjective 5.7 ratings and subjective 5.8 ratings for 18-year-olds, presumably by a small group of mostly unidentified people issuing such ratings with no guarantee of any depth of research by any of them? No allowance for a 0.1 variance due to subjectivity and/or human error?

Defend.

 

[aka]

Am I supposed to be excited or should I cry?

 

[ThreatMatrix]

Every rating service assigns each recruit a grade.

This is how Rivals does it:

Rivals assigns each player a number in their evaluation (RR). Here's what they mean.

• 6.1 Franchise Player; considered one of the elite prospects in the country, generally among the nation's top 25 players overall; deemed to have excellent pro potential; high-major prospect

• 6.0-5.8 All-American Candidate; high-major prospect; considered one of the nation's top 300 prospects; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team

• 5.7-5.5 All-Region Selection; considered among the region's top prospects and among the top 750 or so prospects in the country; high-to-mid-major prospect; deemed to have pro potential and ability to make an impact on college team

• 5.4-5.0 Division I prospect; considered a mid-major prospect; deemed to have limited pro potential but definite Division I prospect; may be more of a role player

• 4.9 Sleeper; no Rivals.com expert knew much, if anything, about this player; a prospect that only a college coach really knew about

To put it another way, 6.1 and above are 5*, 5.8 - 6.0 are 4*, 5.5 - 5.7 are 3*, 5.0 - 5.4 are 2*, 4.9 and under are 1*

Rivals assigned Donovan Stiner a 5.7 making him as close to a 4* as you can possibly get without actually being a 4*

It's actually much more finely graduated than that. For the purpose of ranking classes players get points from 0 to 250. So yeah there's High or low star.
Zach Carter 4* 156 points
KL Herbert 4* 108 points
Big difference

https://n.rivals.com/news/rivals-com-football-team-recruiting-rankings-formula-1
What is the formula?
Rivals Rating points + Rivals250 Bonus Points = Total Points
Rivals Rating (RR) Scale (Top 20 rated commitments)
(Rivals Rating = Points)
6.1 = 150 points
6.0 = 135 points
5.9 = 120 points
5.8 = 105 points
5.7 = 90 points
5.6 = 75 points
5.5 = 60 points
5.4 = 45 points
5.3 = 30 points
5.2 = 15 points
*Prospects without an assigned rating will count for no points. All FBS committed prospects will have a rating once evaluated and rankings are updated.
Rivals 250 Bonus Scale (all commitments)
#1= 100 points
#2= 83 points
#3= 82 points
#4= 81 points
#5= 80 points
#6= 76 points
etc....

 

[T REX]

I agree with your repeated statement that stars count, but how much of a real difference do you think there is between subjective 5.7 ratings and subjective 5.8 ratings for 18-year-olds, presumably by a small group of mostly unidentified people issuing such ratings with no guarantee of any depth of research by any of them? No allowance for a 0.1 variance due to subjectivity and/or human error?

Defend.

http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/want-a-national-title-sign-top-ten-classes-020316

I look at this from more of a macro standpoint. No doubt there's errors on an individual basis. But overall over extended time the ranking system bears out the facts...high classes equals wins and titles. There are always outliers. There always will be.

The FACTS are the FACTS - you want to win titles - recruit with the best of them. If not, pray for a miracle.

 

[GR8 2B]

http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/want-a-national-title-sign-top-ten-classes-020316

I look at this from more of a macro standpoint. No doubt there's errors on an individual basis. But overall over extended time the ranking system bears out the facts...high classes equals wins and titles. There are always outliers. There always will be.

The FACTS are the FACTS - you want to win titles - recruit with the best of them. If not, pray for a miracle.

I agree with all of that, except for praying for a miracle. I'm more of a "make it happen" guy. I'm not looking at four 5.7-rated and two 5.6-rated members of the incoming class from a macro POV. My point is: the numbers posted by 2222 give me reason to think we have more substantive 4-stars in this class than a superficial reading of the ratings conveys. That's where I take issue with your comment, "It's as bad as it sounds. High three stars are still three stars." NOT if you factor in subjectivity and human error, which cannot be removed from a human-driven process such as rating 18-year-olds in anything.

You need to relax a little, T. Valid criticism's got its place, but don't forget to enjoy what you've got here. Either Mac will do it, or our next coach will. Bottom line: it really is . . . GR8 . . . 2B . . . . a Florida Gator!

 

[heversle]

3 star? 4 star? 5 star recruit? It's all subjective. I only care if our players are Champions of Life...amiright?