We're Gonna Air The Ball Out This Year (Finally)

[Bernardo de la Paz]

Look it's fun to look back but that's just nonsense. This years Bama team would have taken that 96 team behind the woodshed 56-3, or any other team that has won a NC in the last 10 years for that matter...bigger, faster, stronger , it is what it is.

You are smoking crack.

 

[gatormandan]

You are smoking crack.

Yep, laced with something strong too...

 

[SGG]

Decent offense? What is that? :) In all seriousness though, what would we consider decent? 200 yards passing, 200 rushing? Is it a points thing (say 30 a game?) Or is it just passing the eye test of being competent out there and not having all us couch-coaches being able to name the play before the snap?

Yes.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Crete loves to hate in the offseason.... Arkansas has won all that NC's under the Krispy Kreme.... Or they stubble out to of the gate. I guess that is why he is so high on Grier, he had a better record that Bielema the first 6 games of the 2015 season. 5 good quarters, but was 6 wins. Bielema did beat Tennesse in his first 6 games in too in their 2-4 start. Do we rate that win just as high for them as well?

 

[TheDouglas78]

Should we review the heights of the last 10-15 NC QB'S????

Super Bowl QBS:
Allstate Rodgers 6'2"
Russell "shorty" Wilson 5'11"
Peanut Manning 6'4"
Ben RapesALot 6'5"
Laptop Newton 6'5"
Deflate Brady 6'4"
Stats Brees 6'0"
Mouth Breather Manning 6'4"
Colin whogivesa**** 6'5"
Joe Flaccid 6'6"
Kurt Wart 6'2"
Rex Grossman 6'1"


NC Winner QBs

2000 Josh Heupel 6'1"
2001 Ken Dorsey 6'4"
2002 Craig Krenzel 6'4"
2003 Matt Mauck 6'3"
2004 Matt Leinart 6'5"
2005 Vince Young 6'5"
2006 Chris Leak 6' ?
2007 Matt Flynn 6'2"
2008 Tim Tebow 6'3"
2009 Greg McElroy 6'2"
2010 Cam FigNewton 6'5"
2011 AJ McCarron 6'4"
2012 AJ McCarron 6'4"
2013 Rapist Winston 6'4"
2014 Cardale Jones 6'5"
2015 Jake Cocker 6'5"

 

[Durty South Swamp]

Look it's fun to look back but that's just nonsense. This years Bama team would have taken that 96 team behind the woodshed 56-3, or any other team that has won a NC in the last 10 years for that matter...bigger, faster, stronger , it is what it is.

If you had any credibility left, any at all, this took care of it.

The 96 team would have absolutely shredded that bama team. That was arguably the worst of any of sabans bama teams to win a title. Their offense was downright pathetic and their defense couldn't defend any passes thrown farther than 10 yards from the LOS. Jeezus even treoff hit them for a couple deep bombs including a TD to worton. If treoff's throwing deep bomb TDs on your defense you aint worldbeaters.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

If you had any credibility left, any at all, this took care of it.

The 96 team would have absolutely shredded that bama team. That was arguably the worst of any of sabans bama teams to win a title. Their offense was downright pathetic and their defense couldn't defend any passes thrown farther than 10 yards from the LOS. Jeezus even treoff hit them for a couple deep bombs including a TD to worton. If treoff's throwing deep bomb TDs on your defense you aint worldbeaters.

Dude, there have always been one or two exceptions to the rule regarding evolution of athletes and in particular football players but do you really think UF's offensive line which probably averaged, what 275#, would have stopped Bama's monsters upfront??? Let alone their blitzing safety's and LBer which come at a QB 5x faster than anything Danny saw in his playing years....Do you think 96's defense ever saw an opposing offensive line that averages about 315? Or a 250# RB that has 4.3 speed?
Enjoy the fact that we were the best team that year as we were in 2006 and 2008....but for godsakes don't let blind homerism obscure reality.

 

[stephenPE]

My point to Rog is QB's like Danny never saw sh!t like that..

I guess you missed those two 1st round Def ends FSU had running at Danny each play. Danny took more hits than Cheech and Chong did in their last movie..........can I get an amen, Bart?

 

[Concrete Helmet]

You are smoking crack.

So tell me would the OU teams of the 70's under Switzer have beaten the NC teams of the last 10 years? Didn't they win like 50 games in a row? No, Miami showed the world how to stop the wishbone. Or how about the great Army teams of the 40's and 50's? No, because the forward pass changed the way the game is played. See where I'm going with this.....It doesn't mean you shouldn't have pride in what any team has done in the past. Evolution of the game.....

 

[Concrete Helmet]

I guess you missed those two 1st round Def ends FSU had running at Danny each play. Danny took more hits than Cheech and Chong did in their last movie..........can I get an amen, Bart?

Yeah, I'll bet those guys would be third string at FSU right now.....The biggest thing there was SOS didn't realize in the 1st game that all he had to do was run straight at them and he would have went undefeated that year. Watch the damage Terry Jackson and Fred Taylor did to that defense when SOS realized all he had to do was run the ball off tackle more the next 2 games....

 

[dubster1]

This years Bama team would have taken that 96 team behind the woodshed 56-3

 

[TheDouglas78]

Dude, there have always been one or two exceptions to the rule regarding evolution of athletes and in particular football players but do you really think UF's offensive line which probably averaged, what 275#, would have stopped Bama's monsters upfront??? Let alone their blitzing safety's and LBer which come at a QB 5x faster than anything Danny saw in his playing years....Do you think 96's defense ever saw an opposing offensive line that averages about 315? Or a 250# RB that has 4.3 speed?
Enjoy the fact that we were the best team that year as we were in 2006 and 2008....but for godsakes don't let blind homerism obscure reality.

You should have probably checks some stats before you made this comment.

The average Offensive Tackle in College football weighted more in 1996 by approximately 10 pounds
The average Guard weight more now by approximately 4 pounds.
The average Center is approximately the same.

DE are lighter by approximately 10 pounds than 1996
DTS are heavier by 4 pounds on average than 1996
Nose tackles (for defenses that run them) about 20 pounds heavier now.
LB are the same on average as well as DB's weight wise.


Starting OL
Jeff Mitchell C 300lbs
Mo Collins RT 325 lbs
Zach Piller LT 315 lbs

in a quick search couldn't find Donnie Youngs or Ryan Kalich's weight... so I guess the offensive line would be light weights, right?

 

[RocketCityGator]

You should have probably checks some stats before you made this comment.

The average Offensive Tackle in College football weighted more in 1996 by approximately 10 pounds
The average Guard weight more now by approximately 4 pounds.
The average Center is approximately the same.

DE are lighter by approximately 10 pounds than 1996
DTS are heavier by 4 pounds on average than 1996
Nose tackles (for defenses that run them) about 20 pounds heavier now.
LB are the same on average as well as DB's weight wise.


Starting OL
Jeff Mitchell C 300lbs
Mo Collins RT 325 lbs
Zach Piller LT 315 lbs

in a quick search couldn't find Donnie Youngs or Ryan Kalich's weight... so I guess the offensive line would be light weights, right?

Aint it a b$tch how facts get in the way, LOL

 

[oxrageous]

Yeah, when he said our line averaged 275 in 1996....

It was 96, not 66.

 

[Concrete Helmet]

You should have probably checks some stats before you made this comment.

The average Offensive Tackle in College football weighted more in 1996 by approximately 10 pounds
The average Guard weight more now by approximately 4 pounds.
The average Center is approximately the same.

DE are lighter by approximately 10 pounds than 1996
DTS are heavier by 4 pounds on average than 1996
Nose tackles (for defenses that run them) about 20 pounds heavier now.
LB are the same on average as well as DB's weight wise.


Starting OL
Jeff Mitchell C 300lbs
Mo Collins RT 325 lbs
Zach Piller LT 315 lbs

in a quick search couldn't find Donnie Youngs or Ryan Kalich's weight... so I guess the offensive line would be light weights, right?

Are you seriously debating that CFB players aren't bigger, faster and stronger(more specific training protocol) as a whole group today compared to 20 years ago?....Sure there have always been a few sprinters, fatasses and natural freaks like Bo and Hershel but there is no way in hell the game was more physical or as fast as it is today....

 

[Concrete Helmet]

Here something I think might make sense to you overly sensitive bastards....Do you believe the 1996 team would have beaten the 2008 team?

 

[TheDouglas78]

Are you seriously debating that CFB players aren't bigger, faster and stronger(more specific training protocol) as a whole group today compared to 20 years ago?....Sure there have always been a few sprinters, fatasses and natural freaks like Bo and Hershel but there is no way in hell the game was more physical or as fast as it is today....

So you are saying that you don't like the facts about weight? That's on you, you brought up weight. You are the one that said the 1996 UF offensive line average 275... The number I posted were the averages for D1 football players (1996/now), and you start to cry...



Don't throw up a bad argument then try to double down on that argument like this post. You made an invalid argument about weight. INVALID. It's really as physical with all the rules helping offensive players.... how many of todays wide receiver would have been able to play 20 years ago when it wasn't a PI if they are breathed on hard.

So by your new argument did the natural value of mass change from 1996 and now? Did the pound get heavier?

 

[Concrete Helmet]

Here something I think might make sense to you overly sensitive bastards....Do you believe the 1996 team would have beaten the 2008 team?

The correct response is no ****in way

 

[TheDouglas78]

The correct response is no ****in way

I don't know.. have you asked this guy:

 

[Concrete Helmet]

So you are saying that you don't like the facts about weight? That's on you, you brought up weight. You are the one that said the 1996 UF offensive line average 275... The number I posted were the averages for D1 football players (1996/now), and you start to cry...



Don't throw up a bad argument then try to double down on that argument like this post. You made an invalid argument about weight. INVALID. It's really as physical with all the rules helping offensive players.... how many of todays wide receiver would have been able to play 20 years ago when it wasn't a PI if they are breathed on hard.

So by your new argument did the natural value of mass change from 1996 and now? Did the pound get heavier?

Did it occur that a lot of olinemen were fatasses then. Most of them nowadays don't even have a belly....What about RB's as a whole or Safety's as a whole, or the fact that todays QB's are trying to throw over 6'2" CB's......Or maybe the average LB has 4.7-4.8 speed versus 5.0 speed.....