Where will the UF offense rank in 2018?

Where will the UF offense rank in 2018?

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Omar's Coming Yo!

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Hevesy is the proven commodity that Mullinz brought. I have no doubt about improvement, but the amount of improvement will be limited by the horses we give him.
Lulz no. Hevesy is a younger version of Summers. He's a decent coach but can't recruit


https://www.foxsports.com/
John Hevesy needs to be fired YESTERDAY
foxsportsJun 30, 2017 at 10:28p ET
8925744-denzel-devall-ncaa-football-alabama-mississippi-state.jpg

Mississippi State’s offensive line has been a wreck for two years and there’s no reason for it other than the lackluster recruiting of John Hevesy.
This O-line is just terrible. It features three starting seniors and 87 career starts among the group….but they can’t block much of anything.

John Hevesy is no dummy – that’s not what I’m saying. He knows how to coach offensive lineman. But when you don’t have the talent to begin with, and are relying on patchwork and diamonds in the rough it will catch up to you. That’s what has happened in 2015 and 2016. This O-line is not SEC worthy and it comes down to recruiting….which Hevesy has made it known he doesn’t like to do.

And while, yes, MSU recruits “areas” rather than by position, the position coach plays a key role in recruiting players to their respective groups. Why wouldn’t they? Are offensive lineman going to sign with a school before establishing a rapport with the coach they’ll be spending the majority of their time with?

Every other position group is able to attract high three and four star recruits while the OL is signing guys in the low threes with no other SEC offers. Whenever MSU goes after a highly touted lineman, they choose the other school. What’s more, we only sign two or three per class instead of five or six like we should be doing.

We are doubling down on Hevesy’s ability to develop players by not recruiting SEC talent and only signing the minimum needed at the most unpredictable position group.

Back to the film – what would we do without a mobile quarterback? Watch Justin Senior completely whiff on his block. Fortunately, Fitz was able to avoid the DE and gain positive yards.


And a quote just for donkey:

Hevesy is the biggest cog in that group. This needs to happen yesterday. There’s not much room for things to get worse, and we don’t need Hevesy’s gruff style recruiting anyone new.

I know he’s your boy, Mullen, but your boy is keeping you from running an effective offense. The OL being bad is a domino effect that touches every aspect of the offense.

This unit complemented Dak Prescott in 2014 and you saw the results. They were bad in 2015, but Dak improved his game as a senior which masked their inconsistent play so long as we weren’t playing elite teams. In 2016, their Swiss cheese play is sticking out like a sore thumb with a young QB – but even he is able to make some lemonade about of lemons from time to time. If Tyler Russell were back there we’d be 0-6.

We’ve recruited like a Sun Belt program on the OL for far too long and it’s caught up with us big time. Time to jettison Coach Hevesy and find someone who wants to recruit SEC-level players so we can have a serviceable offensive front without relying on walk-ons to become All-Americans.

https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/john-hevesy-needs-to-be-fired-yesterday-101716

There's more:

Hell Anthony Dixon called out Mullen:

Anthony Dixon

✔@Boobie24Dixon

https://twitter.com/Boobie24Dixon/status/784816135850065921

As for the coaches,the favoritism ends today,it's time to get real cutthroat and if they in the feelings about it they don't belong...

2:02 PM - Oct 8, 2016

Unfortunately, Mullen and his #CountryClubBoyz failed to have the team ready to play. They had two weeks to prepare this team for a must win game. Instead, the team came out and looked clueless. There was no answer for Auburn on either side of the ball. It made me wonder what we did the last two weeks, because we definitely couldn’t have been preparing for Auburn.

Before I name the members of the #CountryClub, allow me to talk about the #Club first. The #CountryClub refers to a select group of long term coaches on the current staff. They have little to no accountability from Mullen. As Mullen himself has become comfortable and complacent at MSU, so have his #CountryClubBoyz.

The #CountryClub mentality has seeped throughout the staff and infected the program at large. There is no longer a sense of urgency or hunger. It’s evident every Saturday now. We saw one example when Mullen wore shorts against USA. We’ve seen it every year when the NFL Draft comes around – which so far has yielded just two offensive line draft picks in seven years (both were Sly Croom recruits). We hear it when we are told that it takes two years to get a RB ready to play in our system. The examples are endless. Allow a fan favorite MSU legend to say it best:

CountryClub Membership
By now you have to be wondering just who the #CountryClub members are. First and foremost you have Dan Mullen himself. But the other members are his “boyz” on the offensive staff: John Hevesy, Scott Sallach, and Greg Knox. Those three are unquestioned #Club members. Let’s take a look at the performance of each.

be fair, I don’t think Hev is a bad coach. He does a decent job when it comes to developing his unit. The problem is that he has the personality of an angry porcupine. A cactus would be jealous of his barbs. He rubs almost everyone the wrong way, but he especially rubs high school coaches, recruits, and parents the wrong way.

If his personality isn’t bad enough, Hev openly talks about how much he hates to recruit. He does the bare minimum required. There’s a reason we wind up with 2-star offensive line recruits we steal from powerhouse programs like Arkansas State, Troy, and UAB. Any OL who seems to have another Power 5 option chooses it. While coaches do recruit a specific area, they are also an integral part of recruiting their position group. It’s telling that almost no one, even a MSU legacy like Scott Lashley, wants to play for Hev.

Greg Knox: Knox is in charge of running backs. After successes with Anthony Dixon, Vick Ballard, LaDarius Perkins, and Josh Robinson, State has struggled mightily to find a RB. There’s undeniable talent at the position: Ashton Shumpert, Aeris Williams, and Nick Gibson were all legitimate 4 star recruits coming out of HS. Alec Murphy was the top RB prospect in the state of Missouri. And all Dontavian Lee has done is look like the best pure runner of the bunch when he touches the ball.

Mullen and Knox tell us it takes a RB two years to get ready to play. Yet RB is supposed to be far and away the easiest position to play as a freshman. Every year in the SEC we see true freshmen step in at RB and become legitimate threats. So why is it different for us?
https://maroonandwhitenation.com/2016/10/09/msu-armchair-qb-4-meeeellion-dollars-edition/
 
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Lulz no. Hevesy is a younger version of Summers. He's a decent coach but can't recruit


https://www.foxsports.com/
John Hevesy needs to be fired YESTERDAY
foxsportsJun 30, 2017 at 10:28p ET
8925744-denzel-devall-ncaa-football-alabama-mississippi-state.jpg

Mississippi State’s offensive line has been a wreck for two years and there’s no reason for it other than the lackluster recruiting of John Hevesy.
This O-line is just terrible. It features three starting seniors and 87 career starts among the group….but they can’t block much of anything.

John Hevesy is no dummy – that’s not what I’m saying. He knows how to coach offensive lineman. But when you don’t have the talent to begin with, and are relying on patchwork and diamonds in the rough it will catch up to you. That’s what has happened in 2015 and 2016. This O-line is not SEC worthy and it comes down to recruiting….which Hevesy has made it known he doesn’t like to do.

And while, yes, MSU recruits “areas” rather than by position, the position coach plays a key role in recruiting players to their respective groups. Why wouldn’t they? Are offensive lineman going to sign with a school before establishing a rapport with the coach they’ll be spending the majority of their time with?

Every other position group is able to attract high three and four star recruits while the OL is signing guys in the low threes with no other SEC offers. Whenever MSU goes after a highly touted lineman, they choose the other school. What’s more, we only sign two or three per class instead of five or six like we should be doing.

We are doubling down on Hevesy’s ability to develop players by not recruiting SEC talent and only signing the minimum needed at the most unpredictable position group.

Back to the film – what would we do without a mobile quarterback? Watch Justin Senior completely whiff on his block. Fortunately, Fitz was able to avoid the DE and gain positive yards.


And a quote just for donkey:

Hevesy is the biggest cog in that group. This needs to happen yesterday. There’s not much room for things to get worse, and we don’t need Hevesy’s gruff style recruiting anyone new.

I know he’s your boy, Mullen, but your boy is keeping you from running an effective offense. The OL being bad is a domino effect that touches every aspect of the offense.

This unit complemented Dak Prescott in 2014 and you saw the results. They were bad in 2015, but Dak improved his game as a senior which masked their inconsistent play so long as we weren’t playing elite teams. In 2016, their Swiss cheese play is sticking out like a sore thumb with a young QB – but even he is able to make some lemonade about of lemons from time to time. If Tyler Russell were back there we’d be 0-6.

We’ve recruited like a Sun Belt program on the OL for far too long and it’s caught up with us big time. Time to jettison Coach Hevesy and find someone who wants to recruit SEC-level players so we can have a serviceable offensive front without relying on walk-ons to become All-Americans.

https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/john-hevesy-needs-to-be-fired-yesterday-101716

There's more:

Hell Anthony Dixon called out Mullen:

Anthony Dixon

@Boobie24Dixon

https://twitter.com/Boobie24Dixon/status/784816135850065921

As for the coaches,the favoritism ends today,it's time to get real cutthroat and if they in the feelings about it they don't belong...

2:02 PM - Oct 8, 2016

Unfortunately, Mullen and his #CountryClubBoyz failed to have the team ready to play. They had two weeks to prepare this team for a must win game. Instead, the team came out and looked clueless. There was no answer for Auburn on either side of the ball. It made me wonder what we did the last two weeks, because we definitely couldn’t have been preparing for Auburn.

Before I name the members of the #CountryClub, allow me to talk about the #Club first. The #CountryClub refers to a select group of long term coaches on the current staff. They have little to no accountability from Mullen. As Mullen himself has become comfortable and complacent at MSU, so have his #CountryClubBoyz.

The #CountryClub mentality has seeped throughout the staff and infected the program at large. There is no longer a sense of urgency or hunger. It’s evident every Saturday now. We saw one example when Mullen wore shorts against USA. We’ve seen it every year when the NFL Draft comes around – which so far has yielded just two offensive line draft picks in seven years (both were Sly Croom recruits). We hear it when we are told that it takes two years to get a RB ready to play in our system. The examples are endless. Allow a fan favorite MSU legend to say it best:

CountryClub Membership
By now you have to be wondering just who the #CountryClub members are. First and foremost you have Dan Mullen himself. But the other members are his “boyz” on the offensive staff: John Hevesy, Scott Sallach, and Greg Knox. Those three are unquestioned #Club members. Let’s take a look at the performance of each.

be fair, I don’t think Hev is a bad coach. He does a decent job when it comes to developing his unit. The problem is that he has the personality of an angry porcupine. A cactus would be jealous of his barbs. He rubs almost everyone the wrong way, but he especially rubs high school coaches, recruits, and parents the wrong way.

If his personality isn’t bad enough, Hev openly talks about how much he hates to recruit. He does the bare minimum required. There’s a reason we wind up with 2-star offensive line recruits we steal from powerhouse programs like Arkansas State, Troy, and UAB. Any OL who seems to have another Power 5 option chooses it. While coaches do recruit a specific area, they are also an integral part of recruiting their position group. It’s telling that almost no one, even a MSU legacy like Scott Lashley, wants to play for Hev.

Greg Knox: Knox is in charge of running backs. After successes with Anthony Dixon, Vick Ballard, LaDarius Perkins, and Josh Robinson, State has struggled mightily to find a RB. There’s undeniable talent at the position: Ashton Shumpert, Aeris Williams, and Nick Gibson were all legitimate 4 star recruits coming out of HS. Alec Murphy was the top RB prospect in the state of Missouri. And all Dontavian Lee has done is look like the best pure runner of the bunch when he touches the ball.

Mullen and Knox tell us it takes a RB two years to get ready to play. Yet RB is supposed to be far and away the easiest position to play as a freshman. Every year in the SEC we see true freshmen step in at RB and become legitimate threats. So why is it different for us?
https://maroonandwhitenation.com/2016/10/09/msu-armchair-qb-4-meeeellion-dollars-edition/
That doesn't sound good, and it amplifies in my mind the loss of Seider.
 

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