White needs to lodge a formal complaint with the SEC over the refs

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  1. Born2beagator

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    They should never ref another Florida game again. Hell they should not ref another college basketball game again. Blatant one sided calls. Even when our players got injured, it was us with the foul. You simply cannot be this bad at the college level and be allowed to keep your job.
     
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      I don’t know enough about basketball, but there’s been a lot of calls that have baffled me.
       
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      The refs weren't great, I agree, but we still had numerous opportunities to win the game in the end. Missed layups and poor ball handling is why we lost, not the refs.
       
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          Well that one ref so enthusiastically calling Hudson as stepping out when his foot was 4 inches inside the court??
          Stuff like that changes scores, dampens rallies.
           
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            As I said in the game thread, I generally agree good teams over come bad calls. Still the charge called on Stone with :56 left on the clock that changed a 2 point deficit back to a 4 point deficit is really a hard call to over come.
             
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              Fair, but I try not to get to bent out of shape on a charge vs. block call as they are judgement. What does piss me off, as Rog pointed out, was the out of bounds call on Hudson. Now that is BAD officiating.
               
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                Should have been a no call. Stone didnt push off.
                 
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                I agree there too. The problem with those is you need to go back and evenly review it to see if any such calls were made on Mississippi. We UF fans are unlikely to notice nor remember such calls.

                And as UF did, you can play through or around such bad calls. What you can not do sometimes is overcome a terrible call with :56 on the clock.
                 
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                  Seldomly do I weigh in of officiating and in no way think that is what cost UF the game. It did not. But the officiating was not great but I would like to clarify a few things. I have played and coached basketball a lot and their are misconceptions. Yes the play they missed with Hudson out of bounds was bad, but I think the official was confused by the small vertical line there. Not sure why that small hashmark is there on the floor. The charge call on Stone was incorrect and a bad call. However the play on which Gak was hurt was a good call. Gak moved underneath a guy as he was coming down for a rebound. Just like the kid who got hit in the mouth by Stone, but was called for the foul. That was the correct call, but if it was in reverse, many of you would have been clamoring that it was a flagrant foul. I don;t see how the officiating caused us to take a lot of awful shots. They did get the call correct with Hudson on a charge with the guys foot on the arc underneath the basket. I know there were a lot of questionable calls, but those call never prevented Mike from taking TO's to stymie Ole Miss runs or to try and orchestrate some movement for some better looks.
                   
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                    I never know what to think about a game until FireFoley comments. Thank you for blessing us with your knowledge!
                     
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                    1. Certainly you are correct on the play Gak got the concussion. That was clear on replay.

                    2. You should quit making excuses for the official on the call on Hudson stepping out of bounds. Just like the players it is the job of the official to know and understand the court they are officiating on. He should have know that line was the and he should have NOT blown that call. I bet you would not make an excuse for a player who made such a bonehead decision because of a confusing mark on the floor. That said as I have said several times a good team plays around or through such a bone head call.

                    3. I did expect an F1 on Stone for the elbow, but this is really the first time I have seen the new crowded space rule called.

                    4. I do not believe that that UF took particularly bad shots. UF just did not make quite as many 3s, but shot ok for the road from the arc. UF did not shoot well inside the arc and lost the rebounding battle.

                    5. For all of you TO guys:

                    A. UF led by 8 and Mississippi took a TO at 11:42

                    B. Mississippi tied it up by 11:07. I am not sure when a TO should have been called in those 35 seconds.

                    C. At 10:43 the TV TO came with the score tied.

                    D. At the 6:17 (I think) the Stone crowding/elbow call was essentially a TO.

                    E. At 3:40 the under 4 TO.

                    F. At 1:46 the Hudson charge/block call was essentially a TO.

                    I am not sure if another play stoppage would have stopped any momentum Mississippi had in this game.
                     
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                      I agree that good teams overcome poor officiating and our guys certainly had plenty of opportunities, but I do agree that some of these ridiculous calls did kill UF every time they seemed to get it going late.
                      Poor shooting and sloppy defense ultimately cost us the game but the refs made sure we had no chance.

                      Bad officiating has been a staple of SEC basketball for decades, and I am dead serious about that.

                      As I have said many times, the only chance you have to get a fair shake is to have a coach with a pair and unfortunately, our gentlemanly coach does not seem to care enough to get involved. You don't have be a maniac or a whiner, you just have to be willing to jump their a$$es when the calls are clearly going against you.
                      Nobody would accuse Billy of being a loud mouth or a whiner but he sure did learn how to manage embarrassingly bad officiating we live with in this conference. Nothing will change until White decides to check the athletic director demeanor and start acting like a basketball coach.
                       
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                        This team F'ing pisses me off. I said in another thread that they were stout. I lied.
                         
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                        Missing the obvious point....the game should have never been close enough for call to matter. This type of loss will burst our bubble come March.
                         
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                          I missed the game today, so i really can't weigh in on the calls. I do want to weigh in on those saying that officiating can't cost games. That is patently wrong. If coaches call timeouts to try to stop rallies, certainly a series of poor calls can have the same effect. But beyond that, look at the story of Tim Donaghy who bet on NBA games based on who was officiating against certain players.
                           
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                            Losers complain about the refs.
                             
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                              Unless you are a kentucky fan then you complain about the refs win or lose.
                               
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                              Or so you hope
                               
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                                When you go 2-13 the last 8 min of the game you pretty much screw yourself. Allen is still lost in the wilderness. Most teams know we are a perimeter team. Ole piss was a guard laden team so they defended our strength. Cheez helps us with penetration but seems to have
                                gone away from that. I still say that inside presence is the missing link. Hayes has done much better but we desperately need that other big. Not making shots will kill you and we rely on the long ball. I rarely complain about the calls but beyond Stone getting some it seemed crazy at times. btw I swear i saw at least 5 or 6 of our shots go in and out.............
                                 

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