White needs to lodge a formal complaint with the SEC over the refs

Discussion in 'Main Sports Forum' started by Born2beagator, Jan 13, 2018.

  1. Born2beagator

    Born2beagator Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2014
    Messages:
    1,807
    Oxbucks:
    $84
    Ratings:
    +322 / -10
    They should never ref another Florida game again. Hell they should not ref another college basketball game again. Blatant one sided calls. Even when our players got injured, it was us with the foul. You simply cannot be this bad at the college level and be allowed to keep your job.
     
    • CGgater

      CGgater Gainesville Native

      Joined:
      Jul 30, 2014
      Messages:
      3,499
      Oxbucks:
      $1,008
      Ratings:
      +3,546 / -23
      I don’t know enough about basketball, but there’s been a lot of calls that have baffled me.
       
    • CapitalGator02
      Horny

      CapitalGator02 Has Anyone Found My Member?

      Joined:
      Jun 17, 2014
      Messages:
      1,407
      Oxbucks:
      $888
      Ratings:
      +2,812 / -35
      The refs weren't great, I agree, but we still had numerous opportunities to win the game in the end. Missed layups and poor ball handling is why we lost, not the refs.
       
      • MJMGator
        Amused

        MJMGator Slightly amused
        Lifetime Member

        Joined:
        Jun 10, 2014
        Messages:
        10,798
        Oxbucks:
        $1,662
        Ratings:
        +12,792 / -116
        Thought I logged onto a Vole board.
         
        • rogdochar

          rogdochar Senior Member

          Joined:
          Jun 14, 2014
          Messages:
          10,096
          Oxbucks:
          $1,839
          Ratings:
          +8,004 / -39
          Well that one ref so enthusiastically calling Hudson as stepping out when his foot was 4 inches inside the court??
          Stuff like that changes scores, dampens rallies.
           
          • InstiGATOR1

            InstiGATOR1 Well-Known Member
            Lifetime Member

            Joined:
            Mar 27, 2016
            Messages:
            2,979
            Oxbucks:
            $610
            Ratings:
            +2,047 / -45
            As I said in the game thread, I generally agree good teams over come bad calls. Still the charge called on Stone with :56 left on the clock that changed a 2 point deficit back to a 4 point deficit is really a hard call to over come.
             
            • CapitalGator02
              Horny

              CapitalGator02 Has Anyone Found My Member?

              Joined:
              Jun 17, 2014
              Messages:
              1,407
              Oxbucks:
              $888
              Ratings:
              +2,812 / -35
              Fair, but I try not to get to bent out of shape on a charge vs. block call as they are judgement. What does piss me off, as Rog pointed out, was the out of bounds call on Hudson. Now that is BAD officiating.
               
              • MidwestChomp
                Veggedout

                MidwestChomp Fun was the goal and we hit the bullseye
                Lifetime Member

                Joined:
                Sep 15, 2014
                Messages:
                7,022
                Oxbucks:
                $1,477
                Ratings:
                +7,061 / -25
                Should have been a no call. Stone didnt push off.
                 
              • InstiGATOR1

                InstiGATOR1 Well-Known Member
                Lifetime Member

                Joined:
                Mar 27, 2016
                Messages:
                2,979
                Oxbucks:
                $610
                Ratings:
                +2,047 / -45
                I agree there too. The problem with those is you need to go back and evenly review it to see if any such calls were made on Mississippi. We UF fans are unlikely to notice nor remember such calls.

                And as UF did, you can play through or around such bad calls. What you can not do sometimes is overcome a terrible call with :56 on the clock.
                 
                • FireFoley

                  FireFoley Senior Member
                  Lifetime Member

                  Joined:
                  Nov 19, 2014
                  Messages:
                  1,459
                  Oxbucks:
                  $367
                  Ratings:
                  +1,634 / -49
                  Seldomly do I weigh in of officiating and in no way think that is what cost UF the game. It did not. But the officiating was not great but I would like to clarify a few things. I have played and coached basketball a lot and their are misconceptions. Yes the play they missed with Hudson out of bounds was bad, but I think the official was confused by the small vertical line there. Not sure why that small hashmark is there on the floor. The charge call on Stone was incorrect and a bad call. However the play on which Gak was hurt was a good call. Gak moved underneath a guy as he was coming down for a rebound. Just like the kid who got hit in the mouth by Stone, but was called for the foul. That was the correct call, but if it was in reverse, many of you would have been clamoring that it was a flagrant foul. I don;t see how the officiating caused us to take a lot of awful shots. They did get the call correct with Hudson on a charge with the guys foot on the arc underneath the basket. I know there were a lot of questionable calls, but those call never prevented Mike from taking TO's to stymie Ole Miss runs or to try and orchestrate some movement for some better looks.
                   
                  • Jay26

                    Jay26 Senior Member

                    Joined:
                    Jun 18, 2014
                    Messages:
                    7,167
                    Oxbucks:
                    $2,527
                    Ratings:
                    +8,189 / -231
                    I never know what to think about a game until FireFoley comments. Thank you for blessing us with your knowledge!
                     
                  • InstiGATOR1

                    InstiGATOR1 Well-Known Member
                    Lifetime Member

                    Joined:
                    Mar 27, 2016
                    Messages:
                    2,979
                    Oxbucks:
                    $610
                    Ratings:
                    +2,047 / -45
                    1. Certainly you are correct on the play Gak got the concussion. That was clear on replay.

                    2. You should quit making excuses for the official on the call on Hudson stepping out of bounds. Just like the players it is the job of the official to know and understand the court they are officiating on. He should have know that line was the and he should have NOT blown that call. I bet you would not make an excuse for a player who made such a bonehead decision because of a confusing mark on the floor. That said as I have said several times a good team plays around or through such a bone head call.

                    3. I did expect an F1 on Stone for the elbow, but this is really the first time I have seen the new crowded space rule called.

                    4. I do not believe that that UF took particularly bad shots. UF just did not make quite as many 3s, but shot ok for the road from the arc. UF did not shoot well inside the arc and lost the rebounding battle.

                    5. For all of you TO guys:

                    A. UF led by 8 and Mississippi took a TO at 11:42

                    B. Mississippi tied it up by 11:07. I am not sure when a TO should have been called in those 35 seconds.

                    C. At 10:43 the TV TO came with the score tied.

                    D. At the 6:17 (I think) the Stone crowding/elbow call was essentially a TO.

                    E. At 3:40 the under 4 TO.

                    F. At 1:46 the Hudson charge/block call was essentially a TO.

                    I am not sure if another play stoppage would have stopped any momentum Mississippi had in this game.
                     
                    #12 InstiGATOR1, Jan 13, 2018
                    Last edited: Jan 14, 2018
                    • Double Gator Dad

                      Double Gator Dad Senior Member
                      Lifetime Member

                      Joined:
                      Jun 12, 2014
                      Messages:
                      1,203
                      Oxbucks:
                      $315
                      Ratings:
                      +1,307 / -10
                      I agree that good teams overcome poor officiating and our guys certainly had plenty of opportunities, but I do agree that some of these ridiculous calls did kill UF every time they seemed to get it going late.
                      Poor shooting and sloppy defense ultimately cost us the game but the refs made sure we had no chance.

                      Bad officiating has been a staple of SEC basketball for decades, and I am dead serious about that.

                      As I have said many times, the only chance you have to get a fair shake is to have a coach with a pair and unfortunately, our gentlemanly coach does not seem to care enough to get involved. You don't have be a maniac or a whiner, you just have to be willing to jump their a$$es when the calls are clearly going against you.
                      Nobody would accuse Billy of being a loud mouth or a whiner but he sure did learn how to manage embarrassingly bad officiating we live with in this conference. Nothing will change until White decides to check the athletic director demeanor and start acting like a basketball coach.
                       
                      • MADGator

                        MADGator This space intentionally left blank

                        Joined:
                        Jan 28, 2015
                        Messages:
                        393
                        Oxbucks:
                        $243
                        Ratings:
                        +346 / -1
                        This team F'ing pisses me off. I said in another thread that they were stout. I lied.
                         
                      • gardnerwebbgator
                        Cynical

                        gardnerwebbgator Not A Snowflake
                        Lifetime Member

                        Joined:
                        Jun 19, 2014
                        Messages:
                        4,750
                        Oxbucks:
                        $622
                        Ratings:
                        +4,541 / -82
                        Missing the obvious point....the game should have never been close enough for call to matter. This type of loss will burst our bubble come March.
                         
                        • Like Like x 1
                        • Dislike Dislike x 1
                        • List
                        • alcoholica

                          alcoholica Well-Known Member

                          Joined:
                          Jun 11, 2014
                          Messages:
                          9,359
                          Oxbucks:
                          $846
                          Ratings:
                          +6,800 / -222
                          I missed the game today, so i really can't weigh in on the calls. I do want to weigh in on those saying that officiating can't cost games. That is patently wrong. If coaches call timeouts to try to stop rallies, certainly a series of poor calls can have the same effect. But beyond that, look at the story of Tim Donaghy who bet on NBA games based on who was officiating against certain players.
                           
                          • NVGator

                            NVGator Member
                            Lifetime Member

                            Joined:
                            Jun 11, 2014
                            Messages:
                            6,983
                            Oxbucks:
                            $1,078
                            Ratings:
                            +4,899 / -112
                            Losers complain about the refs.
                             
                            • Gatorfool

                              Gatorfool Member

                              Joined:
                              Sep 9, 2016
                              Messages:
                              49
                              Oxbucks:
                              $22
                              Ratings:
                              +37 / -2
                              Unless you are a kentucky fan then you complain about the refs win or lose.
                               
                            • Jay26

                              Jay26 Senior Member

                              Joined:
                              Jun 18, 2014
                              Messages:
                              7,167
                              Oxbucks:
                              $2,527
                              Ratings:
                              +8,189 / -231
                              Or so you hope
                               
                              • stephenPE
                                Amused

                                stephenPE Senior Member
                                Lifetime Member

                                Joined:
                                Jul 20, 2014
                                Messages:
                                12,144
                                Oxbucks:
                                $770
                                Ratings:
                                +4,849 / -239
                                When you go 2-13 the last 8 min of the game you pretty much screw yourself. Allen is still lost in the wilderness. Most teams know we are a perimeter team. Ole piss was a guard laden team so they defended our strength. Cheez helps us with penetration but seems to have
                                gone away from that. I still say that inside presence is the missing link. Hayes has done much better but we desperately need that other big. Not making shots will kill you and we rely on the long ball. I rarely complain about the calls but beyond Stone getting some it seemed crazy at times. btw I swear i saw at least 5 or 6 of our shots go in and out.............
                                 

                                Share This Page

                                Chat

                                Help

                                You don't have the necessary permissions to use the chat.