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Assuming Grantham is gone, who’s the best replacement? Do we try and get Strong back, or promote someone like Gray? Try to poach someone? Will we likely lose any recruits over this?
 

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Dear sweet Baby Jesus......let this be true.

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I almost got a chubby after reading this but I will refrain until I see something official.

As for who's next please no recycled BS. I don;t give a shyt if they have ever stepped foot on the premises. Get me a guy who knows what the fvkk he is doing. No old has beens, Sorry Charlie!
 

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Whelp.... I havent found Wobble yet, so maybe he survives.
 

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Who are you calling nearby? If you're going to say Strong, go waterboard yourself. The guy hasnt had a good defense in years

Bam Hardmon might be worth a look. Not sure what Marquand Manuel or Mike Peterson are up to.

You also don’t know how much CS has removed himself from the hands-on work with the D. Or if usf talent is just not enough to work with. But I get it - he hasn’t looked good recently.
 

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Assuming Grantham is gone, who’s the best replacement? Do we try and get Strong back, or promote someone like Gray? Try to poach someone? Will we likely lose any recruits over this?

Tosh Lupoi is the best replacement. Will we get him? Nope.

Most of our recruits right now have already signed their LOI. Of the ones that haven't most are on the offensive side of the ball

That said, I am slightly concerned about losing one or two good recruits - especially if Grantham's replacement is underwhelming
 

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Tosh Lupoi is the best replacement. Will we get him? Nope.

Most of our recruits right now have already signed their LOI. Of the ones that haven't most are on the offensive side of the ball

That said, I am slightly concerned about losing one or two good recruits - especially if Grantham's replacement is underwhelming

Id throw 2 mil at Lupoi
 

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That said, I am slightly concerned about losing one or two good recruits - especially if Grantham's replacement is underwhelming

As much as everyone here hates Grantham, the players love to play in his style of defense. Im not convinced we automatically upgrade if he leaves.
 

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Bam Hardmon might be worth a look. Not sure what Marquand Manuel or Mike Peterson are up to.

You also don’t know how much CS has removed himself from the hands-on work with the D. Or if usf talent is just not enough to work with. But I get it - he hasn’t looked good recently.

Bam Hardmon who is a DL coach...MM who has engineer some real BAD defenses with Atlanta, Mike Peterson an OLB coach...

Why on earth would you suggest any of these guys other than that they were "Florida" guys...We don't need a "Florida" Guy...we need the best available DC and recruiter.

Charlie Strong's Team Defense Rank at Louisville, Texas, USF

Louisville: 18, 17, 37
Texas: 31, 87, 91
USF: 41, 95, 75

Basically this shows you what I've been saying all along. Strong's time has passed him by as a competent DC in this era.
 

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As much as everyone here hates Grantham, the players love to play in his style of defense. Im not convinced we automatically upgrade if he leaves.

This....

I don't see unless we pull a guy like Lupoi, how we are going to upgrade over Grantham this late into the game
 

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As much as everyone here hates Grantham, the players love to play in his style of defense. Im not convinced we automatically upgrade if he leaves.
Anyone who isnt a Dwag is an upgrade.

Also, anyone who can make Ugly ount occasionally, which is every other DC they played this year, is an upgrade.
 

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As much as everyone here hates Grantham, the players love to play in his style of defense. Im not convinced we automatically upgrade if he leaves.

I think you can still be in an attacking style defense without simply blitzing basically every down, except 3rd where you inexplicably play soft zone and watch opponents pick up the necessary yardage.

I’d agree that I don’t want. Shannon-esque scheme. But TG’s just seemed so easy to predict and lacked creativity, imo. The fact that Mullen has kept him around as long as he has tells me he wants an aggressive style as well, so I’d be shocked if we didn’t something similar, just improved, and hopefully better at recruiting.

I see no scenario, regardless of talent, where we are consistently an elite defense under him.
 

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I think you can still be in an attacking style defense without simply blitzing basically every down, except 3rd where you inexplicably play soft zone and watch opponents pick up the necessary yardage.

I’d agree that I don’t want. Shannon-esque scheme. But TG’s just seemed so easy to predict and lacked creativity, imo. The fact that Mullen has kept him around as long as he has tells me he wants an aggressive style as well, so I’d be shocked if we didn’t something similar, just improved, and hopefully better at recruiting.

I totally agree with this. Grantham is predictable and that hurts us when it matters most. Im just not sure who you go out and try to get at this point that would be an "upgrade"
 

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I think you can still be in an attacking style defense without simply blitzing basically every down, .
You can attack without playing DEs at DT and OLBs at DE. And without forgetting tomrecruits DTs, ILBs and safeties.
 

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