Kobe Bryant killed in helicopter crash

[Swamp Donkey]

I don't know who the pilot was, but it was one dumb decision to fly and he should have known better.

you don't figure he was getting pressured?

 

[78]

The gravity when an official tells the media not just that the victims died but that they “perished.”

In other words, blown to smithereens. They’ll need dental records or DNA to positively ID the nine.

 

[78]

you don't figure he was getting pressured?

Good question. Kobe looks to the pilot and says, pea soup. You think we can fly in this?

The pilot: I’ve done dozens of these before. No prob.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Good question. Kobe looks to the pilot and says, pea soup. You think we can fly in this?

The pilot: I’ve done dozens of these before. No prob.

uh huh. we will see.

alternative:

rapey bryant: we can't wait any longer. we have to get to this game. fly now or get a new job.

 

[78]

uh huh. we will see.

alternative:

rapey bryant: we can't wait any longer. we have to get to this game. fly now or get a new job.

Probably threatened to back door the poor little white dude. You told me that was his MO in Colorado, too.

 

[Bushmaster]

Without doubt.

The good news is Im going to out live you, but, if not, Id expect, at most, for you to drink a shot of whatever while thinking "fvkk that guy" and "go gators".

Most of us do that now.

 

[oxrageous]

you don't figure he was getting pressured?

I would sure as hell hope that a pilot, pressured or not, wouldn't fly in conditions that he knows could get him and everyone else on board killed. I would hope a pilot would be smarter than that. We're talking life and death here.

 

[T REX]

I would sure as hell hope that a pilot, pressured or not, wouldn't fly in conditions that he knows could get him and everyone else on board killed. I would hope a pilot would be smarter than that. We're talking life and death here.

We may never know. I'm sure some of those families have already retained counsel.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Most of us do that now.

 

[Mornengswede]

Somehow people forgot his say not so fine activities. Now he was a great bball player, and in retirement seemed to be doing some good.

That said I find it somewhat disturbing that his life is considered so more important than say the others on this flight, those killed in other accidents, and even some who just died.

I believe that it shows how much our culture values such individuals, more than say regular people and way more than say someone who made a larger impact on the world.

Just saying!!!

Is it really that his life is considered so much more important or that our culture values celebrities over say firefighters, or is it just that people are more familiar with individual celebrities and their lives and the familiarity breeds fondness. I mean, we could all watch firefighters on tv and get to know them all individually so that we’re more affected by their deaths, but that seems like a lot of effort.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

I would sure as hell hope that a pilot, pressured or not, wouldn't fly in conditions that he knows could get him and everyone else on board killed. I would hope a pilot would be smarter than that. We're talking life and death here.

Well it's his fault regardless of course.

I'm just well aware of how ridiculous spoiled ass people can be.

 

[78]

The pilot was in (pun partly intended) way over his head.

”L.A. weather was extremely foggy Sunday morning, and law enforcement sources tell us even LAPD air support was grounded because of it. Flight tracker data shows Kobe’s chopper appeared to first encounter weather issues as it was above the L.A. Zoo. It circled that area at least 6 times at a very low altitude—around 875 feet—perhaps waiting for the fog to clear. We know the pilot contacted the control tower at Burbank Airport around 9:30 AM PT, and the tower was aware the pilot had been circling for about 15 minutes. The pilot eventually headed north along the 118 freeway before turning to the west, and started following above the 101 freeway around Woodland Hills, CA. At around 9:40 AM they encounter more weather—as in seriously heavy fog—and the chopper turned south. This was critical, because they turned toward a mountainous area. The pilot suddenly and rapidly climbed from about 1200 feet up to 2000 feet. However, moments later—around 9:45 AM—they flew into a mountain at 1700 feet. Flight tracker data shows they were flying at about 161 knots.”

What We Know About Kobe Bryant’s Helicopter

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Police helicopters not flying really isnt particularly instructive. Those birds have to fly extremely low and watch vehicles or suspects. They actually fly under FAA minimimums and in controlled spaces too. Things that ground police birds often dont ground anything else.

That doesnt mean the weather wasnt terrible, just that the police thing doesnt mean much.

 

[78]

Police helicopters not flying really isnt particularly instructive. Those birds have to fly extremely low and watch vehicles or suspects. They actually fly under FAA minimimums and in controlled spaces too. Things that ground police birds often dont ground anything else.

That doesnt mean the weather wasnt terrible, just that the police thing doesnt mean much.

That’s only part of the story. The conditions and terrain changed markedly on the way up and over to the destination. It’s pretty apparent from that description, at least to me, that the pilot got deeper and deeper into trouble due to the conditions to the point where he couldn’t figure his way out.

 

[Fishon]

Is it really that his life is considered so much more important or that our culture values celebrities over say firefighters, or is it just that people are more familiar with individual celebrities and their lives and the familiarity breeds fondness. I mean, we could all watch firefighters on tv and get to know them all individually so that we’re more affected by their deaths, but that seems like a lot of effort.

agree with this line of thought. I know Kobe's face and name and so his death hits me different than say a person I've never seen and don't know the name of. It has nothing to do with value or importance and I don't think it's an indictment of our culture. We're human and it's not particularly helpful to mourn the passing of every individual who dies every single day. I

 

[Gatormb]

Payne Stewart. Sat that afternoon and watched that plane on autopilot until it ran out of gas.

Right after he won the US Open on Fathers Day.

For a good cry watch the funeral on YouTube.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

That’s only part of the story. The conditions and terrain changed markedly on the way up and over to the destination. It’s pretty apparent from that description, at least to me, that the pilot got deeper and deeper into trouble due to the conditions to the point where he couldn’t figure his way out.

Hitting the hills at 170mph is what surprises me. Ive seen choppers land in pea soup on a hospital landing pad but they were usually just creeping along in the fog once they dropped below the terrain. If you get disoriented, why push the gas and drive into a wall when youre in a rotary wing?

 

[aka]

Lawsuits in 3..2..1..

 

[Gatordiddy]

Let's see some screenshots!

@Musclepug

Did these threats coincide in anyway to the Georgia game

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Lawsuits in 3..2..1..

It goes without saying.