Thoughts on Mullen hire

[chferg]

I've never been unhappy about the Mullen hire just not ecstatic over it. In some regards he has made chicken salad from chicken sh1t with the roster BUT he is responsible for more than 3/4 of the current players on the roster so lets not forget that...

With regards to bringing in good transfers I agree he has done well but it still feels sometimes like were sticking a finger in a hole trying to stop a leak instead of adding to a full , talented and developing roster.

It's also ironic that we have done a complete 180 degree turn on talent when it comes to offense vs defense since 2012 or so. Imbalance like that will lead to eventual collapse and that falls squarely into our recruiters laps. Better tighten up that defensive recruiting Dan or you'll be leaving with the guys who aren't getting it done for you.

Funny you say that. His defensive recruiting gas been better than his offensive on paper . The problem are guys are young and he went two years with misses at important positions

 

[Swamp Donkey]

. I think we're recruiting good enough players to win it all .

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Funny you say that. His defensive recruiting gas been better

But it is all at Rushbacker and CB.

 

[deuce]

tripling his salary and not working for a the biggest azzhole in college football?

Yep, that's it....

 

[gatordad3]

Another "Are you in on Cousin Eddie Hire" thread. Interesting that it comes up now, LOL, but I get it. Just like had we lost yesterday, would it have been the "Fire Cousin Eddie" thread.

Either way, ONE game does not a trend make. Those of us who think he is a terrible game manager still have seen no difference. It is interesting that even those who are in on Cousin Eddie say on a weekly basis that he does some of the screwiest things every week. Even yesterday many scratching their heads, win or lose. I can cite his ridiculous taking of a delay of game penalty at the end of the game when he still had a timeout left and was going to kick a FG regardless. A waste of 5 yards. But hey we won so no one cares. Those things I do care about. That is why I will never be on his bandwagon b/c that will not change

There is an argument that he does compete a little better with less, but WHY does he always get less? and why does he always seem to have a sub standard coaching staff?

ONE week does not a trend make or a mind change. the things I don;t like are still there and are very unlikely to change. But continue winning 9.10, 11 games and it will meet the masses hopes. But the one thing we can all agree on is that until we have competent admin and a total commitment to win, we will never reach the heights we all hope for.

How could we ever forget this day? So you blew chunks over and over and over and over again, huh? Your thread below is classic

So I was having a nice, quiet long drive back today from visiting my family for the holiday when my phone rings. Well as luck would have it when I was given the news, I immediately pulled off the road and vomited. After I asked if this was a joke phone call, he assured me it was the truth, so I vomited again and again............ and told him that the place will be half empty next year and I am sure that the ticket cancellations are rolling in. So after I fire off my email tonite to the "PUPPET", commending him on what a fast learner he has become at the hand of the "PUPPETEER", meaning that when it comes to making a sound, major decision regarding our football program that the only quality to possess is PANIC and that you have exhibited that in a masterful way. So I may poke around here every now and then for some other sports, but I will be true to myself. I will never attend a UF football game in person as long as Cousin Eddie is the coach. And that will be the gist of my email to the PUPPET!!!!!!!!

I am officially done!

 

[GatorTruth133]

Needs to dump some staff and hire a new DC.

English has to go and just bring in a couple of recruiters to replace Robinson.

For everyone who hates Knox and Billy G. The one thing I'll say is our backs have actually played really well and are excellent at pass blocking. The receivers outside of head case Copeland are improving and solid blockers. Sometimes it's.better to have coaching then recruiters as long as the rest of the staff can recruit.

I'll say this, Lingard and Bowman are great gets, even if transfers. Pierce and Wright have looked get as they were recruited by this staff.

I've never been unhappy about the Mullen hire just not ecstatic over it. In some regards he has made chicken salad from chicken sh1t with the roster BUT he is responsible for more than 3/4 of the current players on the roster so lets not forget that...

With regards to bringing in good transfers I agree he has done well but it still feels sometimes like were sticking a finger in a hole trying to stop a leak instead of adding to a full , talented and developing roster.

It's also ironic that we have done a complete 180 degree turn on talent when it comes to offense vs defense since 2012 or so. Imbalance like that will lead to eventual collapse and that falls squarely into our recruiters laps. Better tighten up that defensive recruiting Dan or you'll be leaving with the guys who aren't getting it done for you.

The thing about the transfers is that the vast majority he has brought in have multiple years of eligibility. I'm not sure if I can say that it is all a stop gap. Example being Bowman being brought into this RB room. Now, I would like him to get it done on signing day as well, but at some point, part of me doesn't care how you get the talent, just that you do with time to develop them. I'll repeat "I would like him to get it done on signing day".

Also, as others have said. We've signed better recruits on defense than offense on paper, but we haven't done it at all the positions that count. Ignoring safety and DT has been problematic.

 

[gatordad3]

I admit I was on the Frost train myself. I thought it couldn't get any worse after FSU set a milestone against UF by winning 5 in a row for the very first time in the series the day before Mullen was hired. If Fooley had any brains, he would have hired Mullen to replace Muschamp after the 2014 season and he would have Will Grier at his disposal. Ultimately we ended up with Butters.

 

[Marine1]

I'll say this, Lingard and Bowman are great gets, even if transfers. Pierce and Wright have looked get as they were recruited by this staff.



The thing about the transfers is that the vast majority he has brought in have multiple years of eligibility. I'm not sure if I can say that it is all a stop gap. Example being Bowman being brought into this RB room. Now, I would like him to get it done on signing day as well, but at some point, part of me doesn't care how you get the talent, just that you do with time to develop them. I'll repeat "I would like him to get it done on signing day".

Also, as others have said. We've signed better recruits on defense than offense on paper, but we haven't done it at all the positions that count. Ignoring safety and DT has been problematic.

Very well stated! So many act like we are only bringing in grad transfers with one year of eligibility. Many of our transfers have multiple years to contribute.

How can we believe we are about to collapse because we didn’t bag Bowman this year but diminish this kid because we landed him for next year? If he is as good as advertised (and Dabo strongly believes he is) we should be doing back flips.

I like that DM is taking advantage of the portal. He got out front early recognizing these opportunities and it has helped rebuild the brand. I suspect that the pendulum will continue to swing. Bangs is going to slowly fade over the next few years as more kids realize he can’t coach or win big games.

Yes we do need another Brewster or 2 but we are continuing to improve the program.

 

[gator1946]

Man this is a tough crowd. Just for context I went over to the non-paid Warchant site and the discussion about their train wreck. They are more positive than this group. I've decided that if I'm offered a head coaching job anywhere, and if there have been two legendary national championship coaches preceding me in the last few decades, I'm raising my asking price two million, .

 

[Back Alley Gator]

Meh...he's a'ight. He's not a Meyer or Spurrier. Was forced to play Trask when the giraffe broke his leg and even then tried is damnest not to. Reminded me of the Butters/Grier situation.

I don't have a ton of confidence in his ability to land recruits on NSD, nor to properly evaluate the talent he has on his roster on a consistent basis. He will win some he should lose and lose some he should win. I think he's good enough to stick around...but not good enough to be a legend. Basically, he's our Mark Richt.

 

[TheDouglas78]

He will win some he should lose and lose some he should win. I think he's good enough to stick around...but not good enough to be a legend. Basically, he's our Mark Richt.

This is what I feared when we signed him, and this is what it looks like. Beating UGA was something he had to do this weekend, but he has to do it consistently moving forward. This win doesn't change my opinion, but it does feel good to finally beat the dawgfuchers.

 

[oxrageous]

Man this is a tough crowd. Just for context I went over to the non-paid Warchant site and the discussion about their train wreck. They are more positive than this group. I've decided that if I'm offered a head coaching job anywhere, I'm raising my asking price two million, if there have been two legendary national championship coaches preceding me in the last few decades.

I'm skeptical about ANY coach until they actually win something. I was skeptical about Urban Meyer until 1/8/2007.

I also never thought Dabo would never win a title. He proved me wrong.

 

[stephenPE]

I'm skeptical about ANY coach until they actually win something. I was skeptical about Urban Meyer until 1/8/2007.

I also never thought Dabo would never win a title. He proved me wrong.

I remember the comments about Dabo in here. He was a joke to many. I saw that train coming a mile away. You can look it up (mostly I thought he had the coolest name for a coach). But I liked his fire and history. I gotta a feeling he has a bagman that rivals Kirby's in Athens.

 

[gator1946]

I'm skeptical about ANY coach until they actually win something. I was skeptical about Urban Meyer until 1/8/2007.

I also never thought Dabo would never win a title. He proved me wrong.

When I heard that Dabo took over the reigns I thought good luck with that, gone in two years. God almighty I was wrong.

 

[sminings]

I'm another cautiously optimistic fan. He needs to make several staff improvements as well as recruit at a higher level.

There are only so many elite level coaches, none of which we were going to ply away from their programs. Mullen is currently is a tier just below Saban & Dabo.

 

[gatorev12]

He hasn’t, agreed. But he is contributing to a very dynamic offense. He is doing his part.

Also Shorter is another similar large target. Deemed a disappointment at Penn State yet contributing here (2 games in a row with TD’s) without lighting it up.

The cumulative effect of the depth of solid contributors is apparent.

This.

If we're measuring recruiting success by how many 1k yard WR we have or 1k yard RBs...well, we suck.

If we're measuring recruiting success by how our offense performs on the field, it's a different conversation and it's hard to make the claim Mullen isn't getting the job done when we have one of the top offenses in the country right now. Part of that is due to the players; part of that is coaching/scheming. Take Shorter's TD on Saturday: that was a brilliant scheme that produced two open WRs on a critical down for us at a critical moment in the game.

Ask any DC what he'd rather gameplan for: taking away an elite WR that averages 100+ yards a game; or game planning for 3 really good WRs and 2 average ones who can catch the football...and to a man, they'd all say the former. Having multiple weapons ensures the offense produces.

 

[Gatorraid81]

Maybe the same record, but level of accomplishments is not.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Of course everyone is real happy about where we are right now.

But Mullen has had a good offenae twice since 2009. Let's hope a lightbulb came on for him re the forward pass.

EJ still seems to be running mostly QB keepers though.

 

[Gatorraid81]

Meh...he's a'ight. He's not a Meyer or Spurrier. Was forced to play Trask when the giraffe broke his leg and even then tried is damnest not to. Reminded me of the Butters/Grier situation.

I don't have a ton of confidence in his ability to land recruits on NSD, nor to properly evaluate the talent he has on his roster on a consistent basis. He will win some he should lose and lose some he should win. I think he's good enough to stick around...but not good enough to be a legend. Basically, he's our Mark Richt.

If he's our Richt, then I want my 2 SEC Championships.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

. Having multiple weapons ensures the offense produces.

How would you describe our offense w Pitts off the field last game?