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UF - BAMA Poll

  • Bama wins by 10 or Less

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Bama wins by 10 to 20

    Votes: 13 26.0%
  • Bama wins by 20 to 30

    Votes: 17 34.0%
  • Bama wins by 30+

    Votes: 7 14.0%
  • UF wins by 1 or more

    Votes: 13 26.0%

  • Total voters
    50
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ChiefGator

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Same as I felt after the LSU game. This team has glaring deficiencies most notably in how it's managed and coached. At this point whatever the players do on the field strategically reflects on Mullen - and if it's something he doesn't agree w/ then he should be like Saban, and let them know so they never forget again. I know he's not defensive, but he's nonetheless responsible there too. The crucial management/coaching errors I observed:

3 critical 3rd down stops negated by dumb penalties (21 points scored off).
Not taking an extra 20 seconds off the clock before scoring end of half TD (this was absolutely retarded, minimum 4 points lost there)
A few downs spent on designed RB rushes that all amounted to completely wasted plays.
Incredible lack of urgency, preparedness, and time management on final scoring drive (1 timeout wasted)
Ridiculously stupid 2pt conversation decision, made doubly stupid by wasting a timeout to do it (2nd timeout wasted)

Both timeouts were wasted when it was a near CERTAINTY we were going to need them. I can almost see using 1, so you only have 2 left, and possibly bait Bama into running (vs if we had 3 left, Bama possibly deciding to pass for the 1st, since we could stop the clock and get the ball back with lots of time anyway).

Mullen is frustrating. He needs to get substantially better at game management and strategy. He's too focused on offense alone. If he wants to be an OC, go do that. If you want to be a HC, he needs to get his head on straight and figure out if he continues to operate this way he'll never be elite. Which he is not.

While I agree in general the two point conversion was the correct call to have a change to win the game. The timing issue at the end of the half probably was not even thought of they wanted to score and did not want to give Bama more time to thwart it. The many mental mistakes were bad, but I saw similar in several games so sometimes it is the combination of routes that causes the errors.
 

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With all due respect, he was gifted an unranked QB, a like 14th best HS TE and an athlete that was ranked in the 60s at his position. We can claim that the stars just aligned for Mullen and he had three future all stars on his roster that literally no one saw coming, or we can give a little credit to the development and scheming that he did with them.
And Brian Johnson should be given a lot of credit for this.

The only plays this year that were credit to Mullen are the ones Emory Jones ran, and the Trask dives up the middle on 2nd and long. THOSE are Mullen plays, and he's itching to get back to them full time.

Mullen's dream is to run a dive play 50 times in a single game; he's expressed that starry-eyed fantasy in multiple interviews over the years. In one particular one, Mullen's hips gave a sudden twitch when he was talking about it and his eyes rolled back a little; the interviewer was noticeably uncomfortable.

If Brian Johnson was smart, he'd do what Joe Brady did - flee now while his stock is hot. Trask is leaving and the vertical offense is going with him.
 

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One play away from SEC Champs and your still *****ing...Your not a Gator...your a hater

Dude, I get it, the negativity on this board gets old sometimes. But the 2nd timeout was inexcusable. We had to have a 2nd td with or without the 2-pt conversion. We got the ball back with 23 seconds left. We could have gotten it back with 63 seconds; we needed that 2nd timeout.
 

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Good for you. I was so discouraged that I gave up at half time.

I was so disgusted with our defense allowing Bama to drive for a TD at the end of the 1st half that I started watching some YouTube. But I had to come back. I missed Grimes' TD.
 

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This wouldn't even be a conversation if we had a championship defense.
This team with the 96, 06, or 08 defense wins this game easily. Hell, we probably win with just about any defense from the past several years.
This is the weakest Gator defense that I've ever seen, and they played pretty damn good considering what they were facing. I'm not making excuses but these guys played with a lot of heart.

This, we didn't need a championship defense, just a well coached one.
 

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Good to read some many people talking about Cousin Eddie's mental deficiencies regarding game management during an entire game. Whether it be with the clock, play sequencing, defensive calls/alignments given the situation, GAME MANAGEMENT was the #1 reason I did not want him as our HC. It does not matter when those mistakes occur, but they tend to be realized either towards the end of a half or the end of a game, as has been talked about the 2 massive blunders in the game. But they can happen at any time and they add up as to how a game can play out. As someone mentioned, it was Cousin Eddie's first attempt at the grown ups table in a championship game and it was the easy, little details that overwhelmed him.
 

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Mullen just isn't a championship coach. He just isn't, even if you gave him 50 years. I think Mullen could lead a team to "NY6" Bowl games on a regular basis, but that's his ceiling. There's no shame in it, the vast majority of coaches are not championship coaches.

We just need to lower our expectations while he's here.
 

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I tried to listen to the postgame but it's nothing but softball questions from the press. First guy asked about the defense but prefaced it with "well, you're playing the top offense in the sec"...how about the two games combined? He umm's and you know's and smacks way too much.
 

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Asking him questions is useless, you're not going to get any real honesty (or responsibility) out of him. At least the Chimp would say "it's on me".....Mullen would never say that. Ever.
 

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I keep reading posts that say “if Dean wouldn’t have fumbled” or “if Mullen had killed more time before the halftime score” etc. The thing is, this staff would’ve found a way to lose this game regardless. If we didn’t make those mistakes and found ourselves in the lead in the 2nd half, Mullen would’ve just went conservative and lost the game that way. Mullen was thrilled to lose by only six points, he definitely wasn’t shedding tears like Trask.
 

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I keep reading posts that say “if Dean wouldn’t have fumbled” or “if Mullen had killed more time before the halftime score” etc. The thing is, this staff would’ve found a way to lose this game regardless. If we didn’t make those mistakes and found ourselves in the lead in the 2nd half, Mullen would’ve just went conservative and lost the game that way. Mullen was thrilled to lose by only six points, he definitely wasn’t shedding tears like Trask.
I have to agree. At no point was Bama in danger of losing that game.
 

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Lots to complain about, some to be proud of. Marco Wilson came through for the other team 3 times this season and was a huge part of all those loses. He gave a 15 yard cushion to almost every receiver he lined up against and gave up an easy winning TD for Bama last night. I blame Mullen for allowing Grantham to run such a crappy D all year. The fumble by Dean was huge but I thought there was helmet to helmet on that hit. If the shoulder got there first it wasn’t by much. In the end it was a badly coached D that cost us the most all year. If Grantham isn’t fired, he should at least refund us most of his salary because he showed no improvement at all this season as a coach and surely cost us a real shot at a Natty. If Mullen doesn’t realize this was his best shot at that and keeps him around it is on him, and I will have to agree with others that say he will never get us to the top with that kind of leadership. Fun game to watch other than the final score..as always..Go Gators!
 

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I thought we are closer to Alabama's level than expected. The defensive penalties killed us in the first half and something needs changed. Our secondary needs to be coached to commit pass interference if you are going to get beat as Alabama obviously is and has been. Of course you have to be close enough to the receiver to commit it (Marco Wilson). Also, we dive at feet way too much on defense when it looks like if we just stay up at least the runner has to slow up and change direction to run around you.

I'd like to see a change in the college pass interference rules to make it a spot foul or after 3 pass interferences make it a 25 yard penalty. It just doesn't feel right that you can obviously coach it as viable defensive option.
 

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Serious question...Are we sure that Mullen screwed up the snap at the end of the first half....or did Trask? I’m having a hard time believing the coach said snap and score as quickly as possible and let’s challenge our defense to step up.

Serious question to your serious question. Do you think Saban would have allowed his offense to leave those 19 seconds on the clock for us?

Those 19 seconds was and that time out before the 2 pt are game changers. Without the extra 18-19 seconds Bama settles for a fg at best. That's 4 points given back. 48-46. Saving that timeout means we have an additional 30-40 seconds at the end of the game that a FG wins vs a TD.

So yeah, Mullen should have told Trask to hold the snap until under 5 on the play clock. And don't give me the alternate reality crap because what reality we have based on wrong management decisions is why we are not celebrating right now. I wonder if you ever gave that line of BS in an AAR before. I don't know how the marines conduct AARs but in the Army you'd got beat down for saying something stupid like that.
 

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So did Mullen praise the D for only giving up 52, and throw offense under the bus for not scoring enough?
 

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@SECNetwork: Najee Harris: Most TDs in a game in SEC Championship game history (5) Mac Jones: Most pass yards in a game in SEC Championship game history (418) DeVonta Smith: Most receptions in a game in Alabama history (15) This @AlabamaFTBL offense
 

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@SECNetwork: Najee Harris: Most TDs in a game in SEC Championship game history (5) Mac Jones: Most pass yards in a game in SEC Championship game history (418) DeVonta Smith: Most receptions in a game in Alabama history (15) This @AlabamaFTBL offense
UF in the record books too then, weeeeeeee
 

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