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UF - BAMA Poll

  • Bama wins by 10 or Less

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Bama wins by 10 to 20

    Votes: 13 26.0%
  • Bama wins by 20 to 30

    Votes: 17 34.0%
  • Bama wins by 30+

    Votes: 7 14.0%
  • UF wins by 1 or more

    Votes: 13 26.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .

gatormandan

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After everything is said and done, win lose or draw, Kyle Trask is a bad ass. A great Gator who deserves the Heisman but will likely be passed over. This kid sat patiently and waited too long for his chance. He could have transferred and been the starter elsewhere but he stuck with the Gators. My hat is off to him and I hope he gets some type of recognition. He deserves it. Thanks Kyle Trask! Good luck at the next level Gator!
 

Marine1

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Serious question to your serious question. Do you think Saban would have allowed his offense to leave those 19 seconds on the clock for us?

Those 19 seconds was and that time out before the 2 pt are game changers. Without the extra 18-19 seconds Bama settles for a fg at best. That's 4 points given back. 48-46. Saving that timeout means we have an additional 30-40 seconds at the end of the game that a FG wins vs a TD.

So yeah, Mullen should have told Trask to hold the snap until under 5 on the play clock. And don't give me the alternate reality crap because what reality we have based on wrong management decisions is why we are not celebrating right now. I wonder if you ever gave that line of BS in an AAR before. I don't know how the marines conduct AARs but in the Army you'd got beat down for saying something stupid like that.

In sports you can critique every decision and identify every mistake which both of these decisions were. But you cannot change the results in the first half and then state the 2nd half would have played out identically.

The 2nd timeout leaves a significantly smaller window that would have changed with multiple examples of what might have played out differently. The 2nd mistake had a far more direct impact on the result.

As somebody else stated...if we had not made these specific mistakes we just would have made others and still lost. Bottom line we had these 2 mental errors and a couple of ill-timed physical errors all of which led to a loss. My take is only that regardless of all that...if we had a defense that could appropriately line up timely and fundamentally tackle we would have won.
 

Spurdog98

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Mullen acknowledged during the halftime interview that he wanted us to just get in the EZ and wasn't concerned with the time left. So yeah, that was on him..NOT Trask.
 

Marine1

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Did anybody else see that Kyle has not made his final decision yet on whether he will return? Stated that we would be consulting with family and coaches first. Is this even a possibility?
 

Spurdog98

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After everything is said and done, win lose or draw, Kyle Trask is a bad ass. A great Gator who deserves the Heisman but will likely be passed over. This kid sat patiently and waited too long for his chance. He could have transferred and been the starter elsewhere but he stuck with the Gators. My hat is off to him and I hope he gets some type of recognition. He deserves it. Thanks Kyle Trask! Good luck at the next level Gator!
And a kid that most likely would have stayed on the sideline if not for an injury to FF. I fear we may have seen this offense get as good as it ever will so relish it now. Next year is gonna be................different.
 

Marine1

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Mullen acknowledged during the halftime interview that he wanted us to just get in the EZ and wasn't concerned with the time left. So yeah, that was on him..NOT Trask.

Ok. Donk opined it might have been a result of our recent poor red zone performance he just wanted to get it punched in.
 

NavetG8r

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I have to agree. At no point was Bama in danger of losing that game.
This game reminded me very much of last year's UGA game. They controlled the game from start to finish, we just made enough plays to make it seem like it was a close game at the end. Biggest difference being this one was actually pretty exciting to watch where that UGA game last year was more of a snooze fest.
 

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Did anybody else see that Kyle has not made his final decision yet on whether he will return? Stated that we would be consulting with family and coaches first. Is this even a possibility?

The draft services have him consistently ranked as the fifth best quarterback on the board, with experience and mobility being the primary negatives on his resume. A solid senior season could cement a position in the first round.
 

neteng

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In sports you can critique every decision and identify every mistake which both of these decisions were. But you cannot change the results in the first half and then state the 2nd half would have played out identically.

The 2nd timeout leaves a significantly smaller window that would have changed with multiple examples of what might have played out differently. The 2nd mistake had a far more direct impact on the result.

As somebody else stated...if we had not made these specific mistakes we just would have made others and still lost. Bottom line we had these 2 mental errors and a couple of ill-timed physical errors all of which led to a loss. My take is only that regardless of all that...if we had a defense that could appropriately line up timely and fundamentally tackle we would have won.

No duh sherlock. That's the point. With those poor decisions by Mullen we lose every time because it's obvious our D won't stop them.

So you want everyone to just ignore the obvious mistakes by Mullen because we can't predict what would have happened had he not made those mistakes. Well, duh, we know what happened when he F'd up those decisions.

And on top of it you want to blow those coaching errors off because we would have just made other mistakes anyways and our D is poo.

Serious question, can you not see how Bama scoring a TD at the end of the half drastically changed the game? It was a huge coaching blunder. It was obvious. Yet, you want to invent other inevitable coaching mistakes in alternate realities and blow off the horrible mistake that did happen. You make no sense. Furthermore, we outscored them 14-0 in the 3rd quarter which means we would of had the lead going into the 4th.

So don't give me that pumper bs about alternate realities that we can't predict when it's painfully obvious how negative the reality actually was with Mullen's mistake at the end of the half.
 

Bullag8r

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Remember the games that SOS lost because he forced the passing game and abandoned the run even when the opponents defense was giving up 7 yards per carry? He even admitted it at the post game pressers afterward.

Concede defeat prior to the coin toss to avoid the angst and the PTSD. As a lifelong Gator fan, at age 68, I remain hopeful but not optimistic.
 

GoGators2777

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Did anybody else see that Kyle has not made his final decision yet on whether he will return? Stated that we would be consulting with family and coaches first. Is this even a possibility?
Yes, the rona gave every player another season regardless. It's eligibility Santa.
 

Marine1

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I agree with most everything you said other than any assertion that the 2nd half would played out identically had we changed the course of the first wrong decision.

I made none of those assertions you attribute to me otherwise. The first mistake led to a 35-17 deficit rather than a 28-17 deficit. That materially impacted the remaining course of the game. I do disagree that the identical 29-17 thereafter would have held and that means we would have won.
So for the record I will state again. Pick any point in time in the game (or any game) and alter the play and everything from that point forward will be different. You can’t pick and choose what you will accept or ignore. As the game actually played out those decisions led to a 6 point loss. Had we not made made the first one or the Dean fumble or any number of things we have no idea what would have played.

BTW, I did not invent any other imaginary coaching mistakes that would to have led to a loss “anyway”. I stated others had made that suggestion.
 
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Swamp Donkey

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Did anybody else see that Kyle has not made his final decision yet on whether he will return? Stated that we would be consulting with family and coaches first. Is this even a possibility?
I just can't imagine him coming back. he's going to be second round at least. now maybe he gets a chance to move into the first round, and that is big money, if he stays.

or maybe he just likes being the starting quarterback. God knows he's not guaranteed anything in the NFL and after waiting so long maybe he wants to savor it.

Obviously if he stays I'm sure EJ goes.
 

Gatormac2112

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Mullen doesn't want Trask to stay and I think it would be a mistake for him. I don't see us getting over the hump next year, if anything we probably do worse an don't even make it to Atlanta. Strike while the iron is hot young man.
 

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