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UF - BAMA Poll

  • Bama wins by 10 or Less

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Bama wins by 10 to 20

    Votes: 13 26.0%
  • Bama wins by 20 to 30

    Votes: 17 34.0%
  • Bama wins by 30+

    Votes: 7 14.0%
  • UF wins by 1 or more

    Votes: 13 26.0%

  • Total voters
    50
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jdh5484

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No, that’s not correct. He could have saved the timeout by kicking the extra point to leave us down by 7 & gone for 2 and the win had we scored again.

The bottom line is having the 2nd timeout and getting the ball back with more time was more important than the strategic advantages of converting the 2 point attempt to put us down by 6.
IIRC, in his post game presser Mullen said the team knew they were going for two and the timeout was unnecessary. He regretted calling it. Maybe I misheard?
 

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Ok. Donk opined it might have been a result of our recent poor red zone performance he just wanted to get it punched in.
Here's what the reason SHOULD have been and has been for decades: He trusts our defense.
 

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After everything is said and done, win lose or draw, Kyle Trask is a bad ass. A great Gator who deserves the Heisman but will likely be passed over. This kid sat patiently and waited too long for his chance. He could have transferred and been the starter elsewhere but he stuck with the Gators. My hat is off to him and I hope he gets some type of recognition. He deserves it. Thanks Kyle Trask! Good luck at the next level Gator!

Agreed. And if anyone on this board refuses to use his real name, they should be banned
 

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The draft services have him consistently ranked as the fifth best quarterback on the board, with experience and mobility being the primary negatives on his resume. A solid senior season could cement a position in the first round.
When considering Trask's entire history so far as a QB from HS to where he is now, who does he remind you of?
 

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We played a great game... Made some crucial mistakes....If we don't fumble the pick...we win...Your a hater

Does he own b and c haters too. Also, what about his a hater. I don’t think you completed that thought.

With all due respect, he was gifted an unranked QB, a like 14th best HS TE and an athlete that was ranked in the 60s at his position. We can claim that the stars just aligned for Mullen and he had three future all stars on his roster that literally no one saw coming, or we can give a little credit to the development and scheming that he did with them.

Look, I’m upset about tonight as well, but the notion that he just walked into a Lamborghini is beyond wrong. If you look at what he’s done, and the caliber of players he brought in, which are just as good or better, you can actually feel good about the future. Different looking offense to a degree, yes. But we will be very good moving forward.

I think Mullen was a large contributing factor to this loss (4 moments stand out: 3rd and 9, 3rd and 11, clock management in the first half, and the wasted TO at the end), but also a huge part in why we were even there. All of this from SoFla is right.

Really, that is the frustrating part of Mullen. He is good enough of a play designer and caller to get us to be able to play in this game and even win. But he’s stubborn enough and has such huge gaffes that he will likely never win it all.

Mullen did exactly what he wanted to do. Just score and leave no time on the clock for Bammer to take it back to a multiple score win.

Just like he did vs Ugly last year.

He was playing for a moral victory which is why he didn't care to do some of your suggestions.

I can’t recall being as furious with a coach ever as I was at that georgia game. But, this was not that situation. Your post is a bad and lazy take just rehashing prior frustration. He was trying to win. He just tripped all over himself in the process (partly due to his smug conceit and dedication to “his” offense and guys).

No, that’s not correct. He could have saved the timeout by kicking the extra point to leave us down by 7 & gone for 2 and the win had we scored again.

The bottom line is having the 2nd timeout and getting the ball back with more time was more important than the strategic advantages of converting the 2 point attempt to put us down by 6.

Your takes on the game in this thread are great, except this one.

There is a massive advantage to going for 2 in the first score in that situation. 2 pt conversions have around a 50% success rate. Going for the first still leaves you a chance to go for 2 again if you don’t get the first. You still have a tie out potential.

It’s the right call. That more coaches don’t do it in that order is frustrating to watch in games. But, these coaches are so often strategy followers instead of independent thinkers on that type of thing.

The TO to pick a play was simply losing coaching at this level.
 

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Not exactly parallel, but Kurt Warner's NFL career.
there's no one that I can think of in history that didn't play in high school.

you have a few people that took time away and that's about the closest I guess but you'll never find anyone who didn't play for 7 years and then becomes a power 5 starting quarterback
 

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No problem AR, if you don't think the way he was caring the ball had anything to do with the fumble, that's ok with me. I've seen 100's of replays of guys getting hit like that and not fumbling because the were protecting the ball. It was a great hit by the Bama player but in my opinion, lack of ball security assured the fumble.
If you can read, you know that I specifically noted that he was carrying the ball incorrectly. I simply said that there were mitigating factors. When I read post like yours I know that either I am dealing with dumb people or people who don't bother to read carefully.
 
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Not exactly parallel, but Kurt Warner's NFL career.
there's no one that I can think of in history that didn't play in high school.

you have a few people that took time away and that's about the closest I guess but you'll never find anyone who didn't play for 7 years and then becomes a power 5 starting quarterback

Matt Cassel was a 4 year backup at USC, never started a game at QB and completed 20 total passes. Was drafted by the Patriots, started for them one year after Brady was injured, and parlayed that into a move to KC where he was the starting QB for a few years. Drew an NFL paycheck for 14 years.

But I think Trask's path from high school to first-tier Heisman candidate is unprecedented. Certainly in modern times.
 

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Matt Cassel was a 4 year backup at USC, never started a game at QB and completed 20 total passes. Was drafted by the Patriots, started for them one year after Brady was injured, and parlayed that into a move to KC where he was the starting QB for a few years. Drew an NFL paycheck for 14 years.

But I think Trask's path from high school to first-tier Heisman candidate is unprecedented. Certainly in modern times.
Yeah, that isnt even close to not playing significantly in HS.

HE LAST STARTED IN 8th FUGGING GRADE.

EIGHTH GRADE!!!!

you know the difference between the speed of the game between 8th grade and SEC? it's the first thing all the freshmen mention.
 

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He combined Wuerffel’s accuracy with Leak’s release. It’s stunning that he didn’t show this in practice over the giraffe. Really an incredible story.
 

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Someone noted that no one got the poll right. Thought I had participated, but guess not. However, in the prediction thread several of us had Bama winning by fewer than ten points. I had Bama winning 45-38 (post#66).
 

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Your takes on the game in this thread are great, except this one.

There is a massive advantage to going for 2 in the first score in that situation. 2 pt conversions have around a 50% success rate. Going for the first still leaves you a chance to go for 2 again if you don’t get the first. You still have a tie out potential.

It’s the right call. That more coaches don’t do it in that order is frustrating to watch in games. But, these coaches are so often strategy followers instead of independent thinkers on that type of thing.

The TO to pick a play was simply losing coaching at this level.

I’m well aware of the strategic advantage of going for 2 on the first attempt rather than the second. However, that advantage needs to be viewed through the lens accounting for all factors, not just through the lens of “if we miss the first attempt, we can try again a second time for the tie.”

In this case, the other factor to consider was timeouts and how much time we’d be left with to possibly score the next needed TD...and the fact that Mullen wasn’t prepared with a play to run. Pulling to within 6 like we did doesn’t mean a hill of beans if we never score the next TD and that’s what happened. The reason we didn’t score the next TD is because we wasted a timeout and ran out of time. We left ourselves 20 seconds to mount a drive rather than a minute or more to attempt to score.

Also, don’t forget that if we kick the extra point to pull within 7, we can still tie if we score TD #2 by kicking the XP or we can go for the 2 pts and the win.

Bottom line in this specific situation was that time was the more precious of the 2 commodities and protecting it should have taken precedence ahead of going for 2 while burning a TO.
 
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Someone noted that no one got the poll right. Thought I had participated, but guess not. However, in the prediction thread several of us had Bama winning by fewer than ten points. I had Bama winning 45-38 (post#66).
We note that you changed that post several times.
 

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@SECNetwork: Najee Harris: Most TDs in a game in SEC Championship game history (5) Mac Jones: Most pass yards in a game in SEC Championship game history (418) DeVonta Smith: Most receptions in a game in Alabama history (15) This @AlabamaFTBL offense


There should be an * after each record..... "* against a TG coached defense."
 

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