The Urban Meyer thread

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After the media meltdown about Doyle's hiring, I'm in Urbs corner even harder.

So just about every year there is some player that is allowed back into the league despite real, verifiable missteps, resulting in suspensions and/or arrests, sometimes even including women. And the message promoted is second chances and “don’t judge”. But a guy has accusations of a particular conduct or attitude, and is somehow unemployable? And it wouldn’t be just the NFL. Any high profile position of any kind would be off limits from here on out. He can no longer provide for his family because some people thought he was mean because of “racism”. Why not just speed things up and make it a death penalty offense? Want to get nuts? Let’s just get nuts.
 

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So just about every year there is some player that is allowed back into the league despite real, verifiable missteps, resulting in suspensions and/or arrests, sometimes even including women. And the message promoted is second chances and “don’t judge”. But a guy has accusations of a particular conduct or attitude, and is somehow unemployable? And it wouldn’t be just the NFL. Any high profile position of any kind would be off limits from here on out. He can no longer provide for his family because some people thought he was mean because of “racism”. Why not just speed things up and make it a death penalty offense? Want to get nuts? Let’s just get nuts.

Maybe somewhere else. Not in Jax at this moment. Not with Urbs just getting his feet wet in the NFL. Unforced error.
 

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As usual, I don't know WTF you are talking about.
Guess my posts are a kind of IQ test. I don't mind that some of you flunk and don't understand.
BTW, if the team didn't tell the administration that the coach had to go, how do you think he got dismissed?
 

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Guess my posts are a kind of IQ test. I don't mind that some of you flunk and don't understand.
BTW, if the team didn't tell the administration that the coach had to go, how do you think he got dismissed?
The media decided his fate.
 

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So just about every year there is some player that is allowed back into the league despite real, verifiable missteps, resulting in suspensions and/or arrests, sometimes even including women. And the message promoted is second chances and “don’t judge”. But a guy has accusations of a particular conduct or attitude, and is somehow unemployable? And it wouldn’t be just the NFL. Any high profile position of any kind would be off limits from here on out. He can no longer provide for his family because some people thought he was mean because of “racism”. Why not just speed things up and make it a death penalty offense? Want to get nuts? Let’s just get nuts.

Kaepernick was essentially blacklisted right?
 

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Guess my posts are a kind of IQ test. I don't mind that some of you flunk and don't understand.
BTW, if the team didn't tell the administration that the coach had to go, how do you think he got dismissed?

I don't know that he's lost control. I do think he's had a tough lesson in the difference between being God in college and something else entirely different in the NFL. Study shummdy. He didn't study enough. The press and players gave him a quick make up course.
 

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Kaepernick was essentially blacklisted right?

He voluntarily, repeatedly and verifiably went out of his way to create controversy. If it were as simple as taking a knee, many more players would be out as well. But mocking cops as pigs, praising Castro and other things will get you in an unpopular spot, very quickly. He wanted attention, then just wanted to be toxic, and he succeeded. I could easily get 10 posters here to say you’re not a good guy, without anything of substance. That’s essentially what you have with Doyle.

And CK refuses to change his position, knowing full well the consequences. He could clarify matters and throw some positive things out there and he’d be fine. He chooses not to. Assuming these allegations are even true, if Doyle is willing to change his behavior, how is he not allowed to do so?

Remember, when guys like Pacman Jones are arrested multiple times, when kids are scattered all over the country with various women, or when drug use is a problem with players, it’s often excused as the culture they’ve grown up around, which is true to an extent. Well, could it not be possible for a person to have grown up in a house or areas, and during a time, where certain races were viewed differently? None of the above is excusable and should be stopped. But if we play “you have to understand” card on one group, it should be played for all. The whole thing is ridiculous and anyone who defends it is blindly walking to their own demise.
 
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He voluntarily, repeatedly and verifiably went out of his way to create controversy. If it were as simple as taking a knee, many more players would be out as well. But mocking cops as pigs, praising Castro and other things will get you in an unpopular spot, very quickly. He wanted attention, then just wanted to be toxic, and he succeeded. I could easily get 10 posters here to say you’re not a good guy, without anything of substance. That’s essentially what you have with Doyle.

And CK refuses to change his position, knowing full well the consequences. He could clarify matters and throw some positive things out there and he’d be fine. He chooses not to. Assuming these allegations are even true, if Doyle is willing to change his behavior, how is he not allowed to do so?

Not to mention pretty much every NFL team scheduling workouts for him on multiple occasions only to have his oppressed ass not show up. He knew what he was doing when he done it, he saw the writing on the wall.
 

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Unsure where Charlie fits in on the staff, if he actually is on it that is.
Will be Urb's second in command along with some coaching in the secondary or linebackers can't remember which.
Accordingly he will be "in front of the team a lot" and will be Urb's main pimp as to what grumblings are going on in the locker room.
 

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So just about every year there is some player that is allowed back into the league despite real, verifiable missteps, resulting in suspensions and/or arrests, sometimes even including women. And the message promoted is second chances and “don’t judge”. But a guy has accusations of a particular conduct or attitude, and is somehow unemployable? And it wouldn’t be just the NFL. Any high profile position of any kind would be off limits from here on out. He can no longer provide for his family because some people thought he was mean because of “racism”. Why not just speed things up and make it a death penalty offense? Want to get nuts? Let’s just get nuts.

Ray Lewis can commit murder and play on for years and then wait for his hall of fame invitation.
Riley Cooper utters the N word at a concert and he’s forced out of the league.
This is the current state of justice in America
 
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