Warning: Political Takes Washington State head coach FIRED for refusing vaccine

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I am and we just hired 3 people...we don't have a vax mandate but it's encouraged. They work in the field have to drive in a truck with 2 or three other guys. If one gets the virus the whole crew is shut down and it's happened. I also wonder what's my moral responsibility to the others on providing a safe work space by having one show up sick and one of the others dies of the virus. They have to wear boots to protect their feet not sure that there is much difference.
It’s a friggin virus like the flu. It’s not the end of the world.
 

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I am and we just hired 3 people...we don't have a vax mandate but it's encouraged. They work in the field have to drive in a truck with 2 or three other guys. If one gets the virus the whole crew is shut down and it's happened. I also wonder what's my moral responsibility to the others on providing a safe work space by having one show up sick and one of the others dies of the virus. They have to wear boots to protect their feet not sure that there is much difference.
Sweet Jesus. By some bubble wrap and go live in a basement out in the woods. Clearly the real world is far too dangerous a place for you.
 

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Your precious media is reporting he died from covid after an extended hospitalization and battle with it, fully vaxxed. My argument stands unopposed. I get that you like drinking from the holy vax grail, but dont expect the rest of us to bury our heads in the sand. Vax's are no savior. Hospitals are seeing many fully vaxxed patients. I dont give 2 shts what the percentages are compared to unvaxxed because that's not the argument being made for forced vaccination. The argument currently is, "well yes, you can still get it, and spread it, but you wont get extremely ill, need to be hospitalized, or die." All 100% bullsht. But then 6 months ago, the same propogandists were telling everyone that once vaxxed, you are very unlikely to get it, and if you did, couldn't spread it, etc. The goal posts continue to shift as their arguments are continuously debunked. 6 months from now they will have moved on to a new argument for forced vaccination because the "you wont be hospitalized or die after vaxxed" one is failing miserably. Only question is when will people see them for what they are, propogandists.
 

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I know multiple people who were fully vaxxed, contracted it, were hospitalized and/or died. I have 2 people in my family in that category, 1 dead after 3 weeks in ICU. 53 years old, great health, good shape, never had any issues.

I have spoken with more people than I could list who have the same experiences - multiple friends/family who were fully vaxxed, got it, ended up in hospital, some recovered, some died. Fully vaxxed hospitalized or worse does exist, it isnt even uncommon. The only thing that could accurately be said, for now, is a notably lower percentage than non vaxxed. So why not tell the truth and let people make up their own minds? This isnt about truth, its about control and compliance, but ultimately its about money.
 

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You’re talking about a vaccine that’s been around for decades abs decades. No school or employer has ever required a flu vaccine. None.

The flu shot has been a Commandant Instruction (mandatory/required) since at least 2002 for Coast Guard. That's one of the reasons I didn't have an issue w/ getting the covid shot (I've been getting every damn shot the military has ordered since 1989, and even got one of the anthrax shots). I would have preferred to wait at least a year, to see the side effects, however.
 

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I have said this before. I am 63 with MANY health issues including cancer and My wife and I along with our oldest adult daughter had covid about a year ago. We all survived and totally recovered. It was similar to the flu but the main issue was the loss of taste and smell. You could have given me a piece of raw rotten fish and I couldnt smell it or taste it. The VA has literally hounded me to get the vaccine every single week since the beginning. I have not gotten it and I never will. I fear for those who have received the vaccine. I honestly believe that within 2 years from now many people will suffer MAJOR side affects and will completely regret complying.
 

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It's too bad we cant seem to figure out this part with regards to getting everyone an ID to vote

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I would have preferred to wait at least a year, to see the side effects, however.

Here lies my issue, we don't know the long or even mid term effects of this vaccine... because it hasn't been around long enough.
 

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It was the end of the world to an x-coworker that I worked with for 15 years, that died Sunday of it and left a wife and 4 kids. because it's just a friggin shot in the arm.....
Every Marxist swears he "knows" 6-10 people who died of it.

And not those 85 year olds fighting cancer for 4 years that the CDC keeps reporting either!!!!

He was a gentle giant, with many kids and smile that lit up the room, until the Trump virus that he tried to frame China for killed the poor democrats.
 

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Every Marxist swears he "knows" 6-10 people who died of it.

And not those 85 year olds fighting cancer for 4 years that the CDC keeps reporting either!!!!

He was a gentle giant, with many kids and smile that lit up the room, until the Trump virus that he tried to frame China for killed the poor democrats.

So I am a marxist because I know of someone that died of covid? WTF, I've voted republican since Reagan but whatever you want to say it's the internet and no consequences for saying it.

Honestly I think you are just a troll
 

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It was the end of the world to an x-coworker that I worked with for 15 years, that died Sunday of it and left a wife and 4 kids. because it's just a friggin shot in the arm.....

There will always be terrible stories and sad outcomes. I think something like 150 people die annually from falling coconuts. Does that make going to a tropical beach off limits? I've said before, if one person dies and that person is close to you, it's a big deal. I worked with an O&G landman once whose wife died of cancer and their doctor reportedly attributed it to standing in front of the microwave. He tells everyone about it, and to this day, I think of it when I'm heating something up. But that's because it meant so much to him.

I can also tell you, if this guy you know was not vaccinated then I'd be shocked if his wife is and/or that she didn't share his belief in not getting it, because that's what generally happens. Again, personal rights and choices and they have to live with that.

I'll also give you this anecdotal stat. I get an email every time someone at my youngest's school test positive(adult or child), and through the first 6 weeks there were 39 positives. Not a single one was anything other than some cold/flu like symptoms and a few days out of school. I'm not denying that there aren't more severe cases, especially among certain age groups, but between those ones and other family friends, I personally know of close to 100 people that have had it. A total of 4 went to the hospital, only one that is healthy, the other 3 being the opposite of good diet/exercise habits(one that is basically a calzone with arms, we all thought he was a goner). So looking at just the data I've experienced firsthand, a roughly 4% chance of hospitalization, and 100% survival rate, I have no issue with anyone who chooses not to take on an experimental drug.
 

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It was the end of the world to an x-coworker that I worked with for 15 years, that died Sunday of it and left a wife and 4 kids. because it's just a friggin shot in the arm.....
I get some people are dying from it. 60-80k USED to die every year from the flu in this country. Luckily, it’s been eradicated. :lol:
My point stands…it is not the end of the world. The survival rate is over 99.5%, vaxxed or not.
 

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Not sure I want to get into this argument but I’ll provide some in the trenches perspective. Granted I’m not a hospitalist or intensivist but Merely a lowly outpatient doc. I’ve had dozens of patients die from Covid. Granted most were very old. However I’ve also had many youngish 30-50’s age patients get hospitalized. Yes they don’t die but when they followup with me they are still dealing With the physical fall out of having had Covid. And looking at my hospitals numbers 90% of the people admitted are unvaccinated. The ones that are vaccinated and get admitted are typically over 65 but most of them don’t ever progress to needing critical care (icu) and/or being on the ventilator
Having said that. I don’t agree with mandates. Calling this the flu is misguided as to my knowledge I’ve never had a patient die from the flu in my career. Covid ain’t Ebola but it ain’t the flu either
 

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The survival rate is over 99.5%, vaxxed or not.

and according to the CDC's latest stats... 76% of those deaths are people age 65 and up.
so.. us 'youngsters' are very likely to survive it as well.

speaking of youngsters...
children 0-17 - there have been 513 deaths in total attributed to COVID.

versus 1,018 that have died from Pneumonia (non-COVID related).

(2020 - 2021)
COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Weekly Updates by Select Demographic and Geographic Characteristics
 

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