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The difference in premium would be tiny and likely wouldn't be worth the administrative cost to implement.
Delta Airlines is charging unvaccinated employees 200 bucks a month extra healthcare premium.
 

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More extortion. They don't have an IOTA of scientific data that can justify that.
Yes, people are being extorted. Terrible leadership. Its one step away basically from either throwing you in jail or tying you down and forcibly vaccinating you. I guess since those two things are still deemed a step too far, we'll just take your job and/or your money away.
 

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Thanks to our f'ing money grubbing, corrupt polititions, you and your children here in the US are now wholly owned by big pharma...enjoy!
 

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You think it's Marxist to believe you should be free to shop for the best healthcare plan rather than being stuck with whatever your employer offers?

Or maybe you just suck at reading comprehension.

I think he took a stab at that actually being your first or last name. He's been doing that a lot lately.

Now we know.
 

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but why is natural immunity not even considered?
Wouldnt the "sciency" thing be to test for antibodies, then make a decision?

I've read articles saying the vaccine offers better protection, and I've read articles saying natural immunity offers better protection. I've read articles saying the vaccine protects you longer, and I've read articles saying natural immunity protects you longer. It's a real shocker people are confused, frustrated, and skeptical. Then you throw on the politicians and their absolute bullshiit.

its real mixed bag on the question of natural immunity vs vaccine induced immunity. As you have said, some studies have shown good efficacy of natural antibodies (though there are cases of repeat infections) and some have shown vaccine induced is best. These are ongoing and will suss it out at some point.
What everyone seems to be in agreement with is that hybrid immunity is the most protective.
 

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its real mixed bag on the question of natural immunity vs vaccine induced immunity. As you have said, some studies have shown good efficacy of natural antibodies (though there are cases of repeat infections) and some have shown vaccine induced is best. These are ongoing and will suss it out at some point.
What everyone seems to be in agreement with is that hybrid immunity is the most protective.
Is there even a real thing in hybrid immunity? It’s my understanding that the vax doesn’t stop the transmission anyway…just reduces the symptoms.
 

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How is that outrageous and moronic? Insurance rates are always adjusted for risk factors. Obesity, smoking, etc. If the group claims data shows that one group makes a lifestyle choice that impacts claims, then adjust the rates. That's all I am saying. Who knows, maybe there is no difference between claims dollars spent between vaxxed and un-vaxxed? If there is then adjust the rates appropriately.
Perhaps the Vaxxed end up costing the health care system more. Will their rates then rise?
 

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Guys, this thread has devolved into a Vaxxed vs. PureBlood argument.

I think it's clear that Rolo is too much man for UF. His beard alone will disqualify him as he scares student snowflakes and professors. Nevermind the Vax issue. The guy reeks of toxic masculinity.

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Guys, this thread has devolved into a Vaxxed vs. PureBlood argument.

I think it's clear that Rolo is too much man for UF. His beard alone will disqualify him as he scares student snowflakes and professors. Nevermind the Vax issue. The guy reeks of toxic masculinity.

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Hell, he's such a badass he wears the turnover chain HIMSELF.
 

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Is there even a real thing in hybrid immunity? It’s my understanding that the vax doesn’t stop the transmission anyway…just reduces the symptoms.
Its true that the vaccines were never designed to prevent infection only to prevent severe disease and death. It was a bonus when they first came out that they did in alot of people produce sterilizing immunity. However, the delta variant changed the calculus as it was much more infectious than the Alpha variant (since it produced a much higher viral load in the nasopharynx), which caused last winters surge. Thats why you have seen more breakthru cases during the recent surge. However, depending on a multitude of factors like age and pre-existing conditions, it still does produce sterilizing immunity in most.
 

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and some have shown vaccine induced is best
Do you read the actual studies and have you seen any with this conclusion that are actually comparing the likelihood of symptomatic illness rather than antibody levels or making an apples to oranges comparison as in my previous example?
 

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You think it's Marxist to believe you should be free to shop for the best healthcare plan rather than being stuck with whatever your employer offers?

Or maybe you just suck at reading comprehension.

I think he took a stab at that actually being your first or last name. He's been doing that a lot lately.

Now we know.
I thought he meant Harpo.
 

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its real mixed bag on the question of natural immunity vs vaccine induced immunity. As you have said, some studies have shown good efficacy of natural antibodies (though there are cases of repeat infections) and some have shown vaccine induced is best. These are ongoing and will suss it out at some point.
What everyone seems to be in agreement with is that hybrid immunity is the most protective.
How do "experiments" manage to disagree on something so fundamental? I see ratios of efficacy like 13:1 or 9:1 in favor of one or the other. Hard for a physical scientist to understand this discrepancy.
 

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