Recruiting Transfer Portal: Jordan Hermann enters Portal

[Theologator]

I’m just kicking it around. I’m not as anti-Kiffin as I used to be but I didn’t want him here. He’s got a great offensive mind, for sure.

 

[lizardbreath]

I’m just kicking it around. I’m not as anti-Kiffin as I used to be but I didn’t want him here. He’s got a great offensive mind, for sure.

And he gets a mind to be offensive, on occasion, as well.

 

[soflagator]

Likely never.

 

[NOLAGATOR]

I’m just kicking it around. I’m not as anti-Kiffin as I used to be but I didn’t want him here. He’s got a great offensive mind, for sure.

Kiffin has changed...He's born again...that's no joke. He's still Kiffin (personality)...but he's cleaned up his act.

What I'm most optimistic about is the "process" change...more than the offensive scheme...I misquoted that BN runs a Bama offense...BN has copied the Saban "process". Napier is thorough, detailed, and moral...That's been lacking at UF even under Urban. (Again...think Pell)

One thing that is exciting...though Napier may not pass a lot...He likes to throw deep.

 

[GatorJ]

So my solution to paying players has actually been something of clearing house hybrid. All deals have to be approved by the member university’s compliance board and submitted to a national registery. Your proceeds get split in two groups. 50% goes to a personal account that a student athlete can access any time after graduation within 20 years of the end of playing days. The other 50% funds a collective account that pays out even amounts to all ncaa student athletes at their division level. To be Eligible for payouts, student athlete must have made at least one contribution during the calendar year. So the women’s volleyball team needs to have at least one collective deal with restaurants in town or the local car wash or something. If we really want to beef that up, all broadcast deals would require 50% of the contract to go to the general fund. Levels the playing field for everyone, allows the bigger star athletes to capitalize the most, but maintains an amateur status and keeps coaches from needing to be GM’s negotiating contracts

I don’t like the idea of limiting somebody’s capitalistic opportunity. They shouldn’t be acting like a trust. Just pay the athletes.

Athletics is basically gonna have to fall into the category of BIG 2 or BIG 3. Then they have to get together and set up their own compliance piece. And they all have to operate from the same rules. Then that way if a kid wants an out-of-control deal he could go to a smaller conference but his exposure will be less which limits his opportunity to make it to the NFL. Some kids will still do that. But they won’t have the same access to TV exposure and marketing exposure. Which means their chances making it to the NFL (their big payday) is less.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

BN has copied the Saban "process". Napier is thorough, detailed, and moral

Saban is moral?

 

[NOLAGATOR]

Saban is moral?

No Napier is? Urban was not? Saban...I have no idea?

My point...Urban had chaos in the locker room. Muschump was a control freak... a good D but no O, Butters was butters...over his head, Cousin Ed was lazy and a creep . Even Urban's offense was not that great in 2006 but the defense and special teams were.

 

[GatorTruth133]

One thing that is exciting...though Napier may not pass a lot...He likes to throw deep.

This can be good. But on the other hand, if we stick to the 215-240 yds per game passing (La. numbers and assuming a decent # of balls go to RB/TE bc 12 personnel), it will keep top WR’s from coming to us due to lack of touches. If we do that with a QB like AR, it’s a major negative recruiting tool for opposing coaches to use for QB recruiting.

I believe we see more passing this year. I also realize what can happen if we try to force the run too much (see last decade). AR has the talent to throw for tons in the system and I believe the receivers are solid, maybe not top end speed, but they’ll make the catches, especially with good ball placement.

That’s not to say we have to air raid, but need to show an offense that will make QB’s and receivers want to come here. Offensive recruiting has been behind defense for a decade. Many people forget that because of all the defensive talent wasted by TG. Need to make O talent want to come here like we’ve gotten the Dexter’s, Marshall’s, Wingo’s, Wilson’s, Collier’s, etc.

 

[Oklahoma Gator]

I don’t like the idea of limiting somebody’s capitalistic opportunity. They shouldn’t be acting like a trust. Just pay the athletes.

Athletics is basically gonna have to fall into the category of BIG 2 or BIG 3. Then they have to get together and set up their own compliance piece. And they all have to operate from the same rules. Then that way if a kid wants an out-of-control deal he could go to a smaller conference but his exposure will be less which limits his opportunity to make it to the NFL. Some kids will still do that. But they won’t have the same access to TV exposure and marketing exposure. Which means their chances making it to the NFL (their big payday) is less.

So what you’re suggesting is just university affiliated pro teams but actually worse because they don’t have a salary cap. Do students go at all? Who pays the womens lacrosse team or the mens tennis team? I think we can all agree the current structure is unsustainable and the lack of structure leaves about 5 teams any hope of competing because the playing field is so uneven

 

[NOLAGATOR]

So what you’re suggesting is just university affiliated pro teams but actually worse because they don’t have a salary cap. Do students go at all? Who pays the womens lacrosse team or the mens tennis team? I think we can all agree the current structure is unsustainable and the lack of structure leaves about 5 teams any hope of competing because the playing field is so uneven

Isn't NIL Name, Image, Likeness? Who does it fit with recruiting? Lawyers please advise. I thought it was for player's could now get paid for commercials, adds, maybe programs and TV exposer, video's, You Tube, video games...etc. Like the music industry?

I suggest a stipend when you make the team even walk-on, more for the traveling team, even more when you play...and so much per game. Then the add/sponsor money but after the fact.

This for all sports.

 

[Oklahoma Gator]

Isn't NIL Name, Image, Likeness? Who does it fit with recruiting? Lawyers please advise. I thought it was for player's could now get paid for commercials, adds, maybe programs and TV exposer, video's, You Tube, video games...etc. Like the music industry?

I suggest a stipend when you make the team even walk-on, more for the traveling team, even more when you play...and so much per game. Then the add/sponsor money but after the fact.

This for all sports.

As Best As I can tell, the current rules are that you aren’t supposed to be able to utilize potential NIL contracts as an inducement for a kid to come to a particular school. But that’s obviously not what’s happening with the Miamis and A&M’s of the world. The difficulty is needing a predictable repeatable system that has defined rules in which everyone can work

 

[NOLAGATOR]

As Best As I can tell, the current rules are that you aren’t supposed to be able to utilize potential NIL contracts as an inducement for a kid to come to a particular school. But that’s obviously not what’s happening with the Miamis and A&M’s of the world. The difficulty is needing a predictable repeatable system that has defined rules in which everyone can work

And a commissioner that can make quick decisions and enforce the rules early.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

My point...Urban had chaos in the locker room. Muschump was a control freak... a good D but no O, Butters was butters...over his head, Cousin Ed was lazy and a creep . Even Urban's offense was not that great in 2006 but the defense and special teams were.

i thought your point had something to do with saban, or morals?

 

[NOLAGATOR]

i thought your point had something to do with saban, or morals?

Saban's process not his or Bama's morals, ethics, or offense.

 

[Gatorraid81]

Been banned for like 3 months from that thread. lol

 

[rogdochar]

It'd be a sportsmanlike gesture to allow 'digiwang' to stir again ... maybe a teaspoon swirl.?

 

[rogdochar]

You know, we've all ardently rooted on our Gators when they played with the amateur enthusiasm with zero incursions of "thoughts-for-profit". So in this NIL petri dish, all coaches should emphasize to all our RBs to keep high their YPCs up high 'cause attempts will be shared, thus fewer chances. "Damn, don't take me out. I gots my NIL to uphold." (Is that a team-thinker.?) Need outside the Wheaties box thinkers.? Will or how will NIL affect play on the field, that we will see.?

 

[soflagator]

Been banned for like 3 months from that thread. lol