DC Patrick Toney & the Defense

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This, 100x this.

We basically return the same defense and drop several levels. Does Jason Marshall fall off because he's bad? Lead the SEC as a true freshman in several categories so talent isn't it there. Is it position coach? No Raymond is good. Is it playing a guy who did well in man in zone where he's not quite as good and continues to make the same mistake every week? Yes, and that is a reflection of scheme/coaching. If your 5* talent is taking steps back, how much more are your not as talented guys taking steps back?

Obviously, there are other talent issues like LB outside of Miller, TD3, etc. However, it's not TD3's fault he keeps starting and getting tons of reps. He doesn't decide that. And if you can't trust the back up to not do worse and learn, why does that back up play so much?

It is a combination of both coaching decisions and talent.
 

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We basically return the same defense and drop several levels. Does Jason Marshall fall off because he's bad? Lead the SEC as a true freshman in several categories so talent isn't it there. Is it position coach? No Raymond is good. Is it playing a guy who did well in man in zone where he's not quite as good and continues to make the same mistake every week? Yes, and that is a reflection of scheme/coaching. If your 5* talent is taking steps back, how much more are your not as talented guys taking steps back?
OK real simple....we lost the 5 most productive players from last year's roster......do you think if you remove half of a buildings foundation that structurally it is as sound?

And even if you want to go into the secondary which would seem logical at first glance they are suffering from lack of pressure....make sense? And to compound this it puts more pressure on the guys back there to tackle because of the loss of Diabate and Hopper, which in turn adds to more YAC......and again think in terms of compounding....need I go on?

Oh and one more thing that was from a less than average defense to begin with...
 
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Gatormac2112

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I love all the smart posters that really don't know chit.

Nobody knows if Toney will work out. We need more time and data to fully assess. But, but, but's don't matter, we will know when we know. If you knew before everyone else in the world good for you. That and a few dollars will get you a gallon of unleaded somewhere. Pounding your head against the wall for the rest of a lost season won't get you anything. Relax and let it play out.
 

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I love all the smart posters that really don't know chit.

Nobody knows if Toney will work out. We need more time and data to fully assess. But, but, but's don't matter, we will know when we know. If you knew before everyone else in the world good for you. That and a few dollars will get you a gallon of unleaded somewhere. Pounding your head against the wall for the rest of a lost season won't get you anything. Relax and let it play out.
So should we all stop posting till the seasons over?
 

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I love all the smart posters that really don't know chit.

Nobody knows if Toney will work out. We need more time and data to fully assess. But, but, but's don't matter, we will know when we know. If you knew before everyone else in the world good for you. That and a few dollars will get you a gallon of unleaded somewhere. Pounding your head against the wall for the rest of a lost season won't get you anything. Relax and let it play out.
We have enough data. Dude most definitely won't work out. Just a matter of when, not if. The only question is will Billy do what needs to be done.
 

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