How many players have been drafted in 2023?

[soflagator]

Can’t remember, I know he got banned by Ox shortly after. Was a long time poster

I agree with you on the no more revolving door post, and do share your view that Napier is the right coach for UF right now. It’s just the first part about people debating Dean makes me think you may be hearing voices in your head. Have you started taking hard drugs recently? That’s usually a cause.

 

[NVGator]

I agree with you on the no more revolving door post, and do share your view that Napier is the right coach for UF right now.

This is exactly what everyone said about Cousin Eddy. He was taking over from 2 horrible coaches prior to him that both left the team worse than they started. It just keeps getting worse and worse.

 

[Detroitgator]

 

[soflagator]

This is exactly what everyone said about Cousin Eddy. He was taking over from 2 horrible coaches prior to him that both left the team worse than they started. It just keeps getting worse and worse.

There is literally nothing similar between Mullen’s first 18 months and that of Napier. I’m not guaranteeing success, but the approach and effort couldn’t be more 180 degrees.

 

[Detroitgator]

There is literally nothing similar between Mullen’s first 18 months and that of Napier. I’m not guaranteeing success, but the approach and effort couldn’t be more 180 degrees.

540?

 

[GatorJ]

There is literally nothing similar between Mullen’s first 18 months and that of Napier. I’m not guaranteeing success, but the approach and effort couldn’t be more 180 degrees.

Agree. Mullen is definitely a better OC play caller. But he basically neglected the rest of the team and his job.

 

[Durty South Swamp]

It's 3 players, with only one of those in the first round. Good Christ. I know you have a narrative to push, but that's not a reflection of a plethora of talent. Hell, one of those 3 was even brought over by Napier from ULL.

Bama has had 8 players drafted so far.

You seem so uptight. Hire a prostitute.

 

[Sec14Gator]

4 teams in the entire country had more draft picks than UF. That doesn’t include Gouriage, who was a good college player or guys like Des Watson, Montrell Johnson, Etienne, Marshall, and more.

More than 25% of our starting roster went to the NFL in three days. Likely over 50% of our starters last year get drafted.

The QB was the 4th overall pick and the greatest physical form ever to enter the draft at that position.

How dare we expect more than 6-7? Gidiots who just need a prostitute (or adventurous R2D2).

 

[Theologator]

So, Dean and Torrence undrafted. Who knew.
I took a lot of heat saying those boys were subpar and the biggest weakness of our defense last season.

4.7 40 times + bad tape don’t bode well for safeties.

 

[78]

Agree. Mullen is definitely a better OC play caller. But he basically neglected the rest of the team and his job.

You're deeper into this than I am. What I see is a worse record, a worse offense, the same bad defense and recruiting at about the same team standing. Yes, it's different. It's worse.

I'm a results fan. Show me results on the field and in the W-L column. Move the goddamn football. Until then, all the conjecture over Napier's solid approach is just that. Conjecture.

 

[Daryl]

Dan went from 10 wins to 6, getting punked my Mizzou's HC should be a fireable offense anyways

2021 Offense 31 ppg
2022 Offense 30 ppg

Defense was **** under both
2021 27 ppg allowed
2022 29 ppg allowed
Imo this will be the season we judge Billy's Defense since it will mostly be HIS guys and not Dan specials

Billy is recruiting higher graded players, Team standings are **** as many teams ahead of us fluffed their "standings" with multiple 3 stars adding to their overall class score. Player average is night and day. Only 2 teams in the top 15 last cycle had the same or less 3 star recruits in their class and our player avg was among the top classes. Most of Dans top guys propping up his classes never saw action in a UF jersey.

 

[78]

That argument is a big bag of excuses and it conveniently leaves out an 11-2 season. Mullen's biggest downfall was putting Grantham in charge of the defense and refusing to make a change.

Just as important, we were immediately better under Mullen, a lot better. You have to go back a long way to the last time we got worse under a new coach.

 

[Daryl]

Simple, Mac left Mullen better players than Mullen left Billy. How many players left when Mullen was fired, and which of them went on to breakout seasons with their new squads? Ill wait for an answer.


Kinda strange how Dan's Ws went down as Macs guys left. Equally strange how everyone in here bitched about Dans lazy crootin yet expected long term success

No excuses, just facts. Dans starting safeties just went undrafted and his QB now resides on his 3rd team.

 

[78]

Mullen's 2019 team, his second season, went 11-2 on the strength of an offense led by the Kyle brothers. I'm really not interested in hearing excuse-riddled sob stories about who left, why or what they did elsewhere. You make the most of what you have. There is zero reason why we should have had a losing record last year. The quarterback went #4 in the draft.

I think we can agree that football is a bottom-line sport and the bottom line so far under Napier is unimpressive.

 

[Daryl]

So you agree?
Make the most with what you have, Mac left Mullen a QB who shouldve won the Heisman, Mullen left Billy a QB who hit half his passes.

Guys who run 4.7s cant cover guys who run 4.3s. No excuses, just facts. No coaching is gonna change that, obviously PRO GMs and HCs agree so ppl can stuff the "just excuses" arguement.
If talent didntt matter, we'd all be playing pro ball right now.

 

[78]

Good point about the QB Mac left. A second-stringer from a tiny high school with barely any experience. The fact that he became a Heisman finalist under Mullen is a testament to making good with what you have. I'm pretty sure Mullen would have gotten more from Richardson, an entirely different quarterback, as well.

I'm done for now. Let someone else carry the argument.

 

[soflagator]

Mullen's 2019 team, his second season, went 11-2 on the strength of an offense led by the Kyle brothers. I'm really not interested in hearing excuse-riddled sob stories about who left, why or what they did elsewhere. You make the most of what you have. There is zero reason why we should have had a losing record last year. The quarterback went #4 in the draft.

I think we can agree that football is a bottom-line sport and the bottom line so far under Napier is unimpressive.

Just confirming that the 2019 season you’re discussing was the one that featured Pitts(Mac commit), Swain(Mac signee), Perine(Mac commit), Toney(Mac signee) and Trask(Mac signee that he didn’t want to play and only did so because he was forced to after Franks’ injury), and the year that we had a chance to go undefeated based on this guys, but instead lost because of a combination of his loyalty to Grantham, an insistence on putting Jones in for lost, momentum killing drives against Lsu, and wearing the wrong wrist bands against uga. That 2019?

I agree it was a really good season. But it was only that way because of a Uk defender.

 

[78]

Just confirming that the 2019 season you’re discussing was the one that featured Pitts(Mac commit), Swain(Mac signee), Perine(Mac commit), Toney(Mac signee) and Trask(Mac signee that he didn’t want to play and only did so because he was forced to after Franks’ injury), and the year that we had a chance to go undefeated based on this guys, but instead lost because of a combination of his loyalty to Grantham, an insistence on putting Jones in for lost, momentum killing drives against Lsu, and wearing the wrong wrist bands against uga. That 2019?

I agree it was a really good season. But it was only that way because of a Uk defender.

Yes, that 2019. Did you not read my post where I acknowledged Mullen's loyalty to Grantham being his downfall? The guy was not without fault.

So you just set the bar for Napier's year #2. Let's see if he equals or even approaches what Mullen did. I'm betting he won't.

 

[Daryl]

Good point about the QB Mac left. A second-stringer from a tiny high school with barely any experience. The fact that he became a Heisman finalist under Mullen is a testament to making good with what you have. I'm pretty sure Mullen would have gotten more from Richardson, an entirely different quarterback, as well.

I'm done for now. Let someone else carry the argument.

Like Mullen did with Emory?

 

[Daryl]

Yes, that 2019. Did you not read my post where I acknowledged Mullen's loyalty to Grantham being his downfall? The guy was not without fault.

So you just set the bar for Napier's year #2. Let's see if he equals or even approaches what Mullen did. I'm betting he won't.

2020 season, How did Trask hit 69% and Jones only hit 56%? Jones was the much higher rated recruit to the lowly career backup Trask (your words) so....
I'm sure Mullen gave em the same coaching... Or was Trask just a better Quarterback?

Ill hang up and listen

Just proving that Coaching only goes so far, talent is the difference maker. Saban didnt rack up titles at Michigan St, only after going to Bama and lining up top classes each cycle did he become the goat.