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Durty South Swamp

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He's saying that the general fan base and the message board base are not on the same level. And he's probably right. The general fan base, while they pay attention to the team in season, simply don't care to follow the team the way message board posters do.
I completely agree with this, but it has nothing to do with what I said and his posts griping at me about it.
 

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I'm mostly a lurker and don't even sign in most of the time. I do like to read and keep up to date. It's not the negativity that bothers me - it's the constant bickering/nastiness when someone has a different point of view that turns me off. Call me a snowflake if you like.

I don't post often because I'm more of a casual fan rather than technical - I can't talk coverages etc, but I know when we suck.
It's the offseason. There really isn't MUCH to talk about.

Sarcasm has always been the schtick of this board. You have realize that we are usually saying it with a smile, and will laugh and give you a like if you land a body blow in return. Or answer with some humor.

Do you at least agree that Nav is a pothead who lives on his mother's couch?
 

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Do you at least agree that Nav is a pothead who lives on his mother's couch?

For the record, it's MY house/home (double wide trailer). And I don't live on the couch. I have my own bedroom with my own bed.

Oh, and she makes me a sammich when I want it too!
 
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Nav, quit while you're ahead. You're going to lose this one. Durty was a Stats major at Florida. He has conducted a double blind statistically significant survey by which he has concluded that the sentiment of the majority of the fan base mirrors the sentiment on Gatorchatter.
 

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You are going way too far into this... my statement was simply that if you survey 10 gator fans, a majority will tell you they arent thrilled with the program and the coaching staff. I have literally dozens and dozens of friends, alums, etc. For every one that likes Mac, there are at least 4 or 5 that dont. Nothing in the statement, "majority opinion" entails how that opinion is displayed, discussed or anything else. I've never once said that the majority of gator fans are doing any of the things you're griping about. My statement was a simple statistic on whether the fans are happy about the state of the program and staff or not. You can make it into some type of crazy hatespeech thing if you desire.
I don't think he, or anyone else is disagreeing that in general, there may be a negative opinion of the team/coaching staff. However, people shouldn't be attacked simply because they don't agree to someone else's opinion. That's often what the threads devolve into, a bitching match rather than a discussion on the specifics. People can disagree without going at each others throats.
If something good happens, say getting that OL transfer from Clemson, someone should be able to say something good about it, without the "yea but the coaches suck so it doesn't matter". That sort of thing.

I think what Nav seeks, and probably several other posters, is more constructive discussion on whatever the topic is, positive or negative.
I believe GatorJersey is right, it's the bickering and attacks, sometimes personal mind you, that people are most likely getting tired of....not necessarily because people have a less than positive view of the team/coaching staff.
 

Durty South Swamp

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Nav, quit while you're ahead. You're going to lose this one. Durty was a Stats major at Florida. He has conducted a double blind statistically significant survey by which he has concluded that the sentiment of the majority of the fan base mirrors the sentiment on Gatorchatter.
I wasn't and I havent done any of that. But I think we all know that most fans aren't thrilled with the program, that's all that I'm saying. Most people I know are not and I know a lot of alums and fans. You guys are getting way to upset about all this. Lets just eat @URGatorBait 's fried chicken.
 
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It's the offseason. There really isn't MUCH to talk about.

Sarcasm has always been the schtick of this board. You have realize that we are usually saying it with a smile, and will laugh and give you a like if you land a body blow in return. Or answer with some humor.

Do you at least agree that Nav is a pothead who lives on his mother's couch?

I think you're projecting your bleak flavor of sarcastic negativity on the other negators. They aren't saying it with a smile.

You're dead on with the offseason quip though. Idle time is the Devil's playground.
 

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Nav, quit while you're ahead. You're going to lose this one. Durty was a Stats major at Florida. He has conducted a double blind statistically significant survey by which he has concluded that the sentiment of the majority of the fan base mirrors the sentiment on Gatorchatter.

Or he's like an SJW, spouting made up stats to win an argument. If negativity weren't an issue, nobody would be sending Ox PMs asking to have their accounts closed out. This isn't the first time it's happened, and I'm not the only one saying positivity on this message board is generally received with a cold shoulder, if not outright condemned.
 

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It's the offseason. There really isn't MUCH to talk about.

Sarcasm has always been the schtick of this board. You have realize that we are usually saying it with a smile, and will laugh and give you a like if you land a body blow in return. Or answer with some humor.

Do you at least agree that Nav is a pothead who lives on his mother's couch?
You're not wrong here, however the perspective of others, that are not the base membership here likely see something completely different.

The only thing I can say to that is, they need to become part of the base membership here and change the discussion.
 

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I am on record saying that we still suck and Mac better get it together or he is gone. I havent been happy with things for years. That being said, I dont see the point in projectile vomiting in every single thread posted about how bad things are and how much our facilities, coaches and players all suck. I am labeled a pumper even though I am on record saying I am not happy with things. Anyone who refuses to join in the misery is considered a pumper. Dont dare express anything positive or hope for our future. That being said, there will always be a difference of opinions and views because its a message board made up of all walks of life. You will never have peace and tranquility here. If you did, you would either have ousted all the "pumpers" or the negatives and found a group of people with the same thought process. That forum would be boring and wouldnt last. I have been a forum administrator for several years and I can assure you that your not going to ever make everyone happy. People come and they go. Dont sweat it.
 
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Or he's like an SJW, spouting made up stats to win an argument. If negativity weren't an issue, nobody would be sending Ox PMs asking to have their accounts closed out. This isn't the first time it's happened, and I'm not the only one saying positivity on this message board is generally received with a cold shoulder, if not outright condemned.

It is fun to call Durty a snowflakey SJW!
 

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I'm an ardent supporter of defending everyone's right to free speech regardless if I agree with the thoughts. For instance, I typically disagree with Sas, but I am grateful for his viewpoints.

That being said, it feels to me, as a long time lurker, that most threads are now being hijacked extremely quickly by a few people who disagree. These people are not always the same, but the moral of the story is that threads always disintegrate quickly. If you're an optimist, you're a fool. If you're a pessimist, you're a jerk. If you believe anything besides football is important, you're a snowflake. If football is the only thing in life, you're close minded. Doesn't really matter what the thread topic is originally. Inevitably, this is how the thread will shake out - arguing over one of these two points. There really is no more debate and discussion. It's draw a line in the sand and you're on one side or the other and that's it. It gets boring after a while when there's nothing worthwhile to read and say.

I see nothing wrong with being pissed that our football program sucks right now. But, I also see nothing wrong with rejoicing when the program shows a glimmer of hope.

Long story short, none of us are paid professionals in our sports programs. None of us know the future. Be critical of gaffes and be rejoicful in successes. And stop being such a harda$$ all the time thinking you're always right and know exactly the way our sports programs will shake out each year.
 

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Well, this thread has not exactly gone swimmingly so far. :lol:

I think what's needed to keep things from getting stale is new blood and most of all something exciting to talk about on the field. Think about it, we've basically seen the exact same thing for 5 or 6 years now. It carries over onto the board because we've been having the same conversations for that long. I don't post much in the sports forum anymore for that very reason. Until something changes in the way we play the games to provide new topics, the same conversations will be replayed over and over.

And it's always good to get new posters to post and provide perhaps a different and fresh angle on things. Even if it's rival posters. At least they liven things up in the trash talk category.
 

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It's not the negativity in general, it's the incessant shoving of that sh*t down people's throats in every.single.thread. by the same.exact.people. It gets old. Really, really, really old.

Having a reasonable duration member leave is bad, because there's bound to be many more yet-joined observers turned off from joining due to related conclusions. Fierce "tug-of-war" oppinions expressed is the essence of a sports debate board. But many of these "yet-joined" observers are more likely the shyer type who know that being written about as a foul named creature for what they thought was a friendly divergent point of view will bother them. Best to be furious at supporting your point without pointing fury at that person. And there are limits to where one can dictate what will be allowed another to consider being insulted by.? I bet many who join with guarded feelings will get "bronk-busted" and fit in fine.

P.S.>> The above is merely a "marketing" angle.
 

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