Mac and Meyer's third year teams

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Yeah, and Tim required so much coaching. Look, here's the difference in the two coaches in a nutshell: Urban kept Percy, Hernandez, and the rest and had two sleazy national championship teams. Mac lost or ran off Grier and has mediocre teams. That's about it.

Tebow in fact required a huge amount of coaching. While he was a natural leader, Tebow was not a natural QB.

On the other hand, Grier while a good QB prospect, required much coaching too to play at this level. I can promise you that Grier would not be doing what he is dong at UWVa if he were still here.

Do you also subscribe to the theory that Spurrier kept Gaffney while McElwain got rid of Callaway and thus McElwain = Spurrier?
 

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Fever, in his defense Grier isn't the quarterback Tebow was.... but this staff would have made Tebow look worse that he was.

True - Grier would look better than what we have had but in Mac's offense he would have never had real good numbers.
 

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True - Grier would look better than what we have had but in Mac's offense he would have never had real good numbers.

Been saying it for years... in UWV he is the perfect offense for his skill set.
 

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Put Eddy on that 08 team and we would not have lost to Ole Miss

1. We could have tried a long FG at the end of the game
2. Eddy would not have missed the extra poi.....
 

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Put Eddy on that 08 team and we would not have lost to Ole Miss

1. We could have tried a long FG at the end of the game
2. Eddy would not have missed the extra poi.....

My brother wouldn't have had his wedding on the same day as that game as well....
 

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Put Eddy on that 08 team and we would not have lost to Ole Miss

1. We could have tried a long FG at the end of the game
2. Eddy would not have missed the extra poi.....
Eddy didn't miss the extra point. The snapper f*cked up the snap and Townsend couldn't get the hold down. Just want to set that record straight.
 

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The defense is worse than 07 by the rankings. You can't compare raw numbers with how the offenses have took off in the past 10 years. Its 41st right now and the offense is straight garbage. Tebow wouldn't make this equal to the 07 offense.

Grier looked average here under Mac except for a few quarters. He looked pedestrian against KY and Missouri etc. under Mac.
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Tebow in fact required a huge amount of coaching. While he was a natural leader, Tebow was not a natural QB.

On the other hand, Grier while a good QB prospect, required much coaching too to play at this level. I can promise you that Grier would not be doing what he is dong at UWVa if he were still here.

Do you also subscribe to the theory that Spurrier kept Gaffney while McElwain got rid of Callaway and thus McElwain = Spurrier?
Oh yeah. All that coaching developed him for the NFL. Did you think that we didn't see Tim play as a freshman and sophomore before he got all that coaching? I think teaching him to run over people was extremely difficult running, as it did, against all his natural tendencies.
 

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The defense is worse than 07 by the rankings. You can't compare raw numbers with how the offenses have took off in the past 10 years. Its 41st right now and the offense is straight garbage. Tebow wouldn't make this equal to the 07 offense.

Grier looked average here under Mac except for a few quarters. He looked pedestrian against KY and Missouri etc. under Mac.
Why not post the numbers AND the rankings and let people judge?
 

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Oh yeah. All that coaching developed him for the NFL. Did you think that we didn't see Tim play as a freshman and sophomore before he got all that coaching? I think teaching him to run over people was extremely difficult running, as it did, against all his natural tendencies.

Tebow won a Heisman as a Sophomore... so I think he play a good amount his Sophomore year. Where the hell are you going with this argument? All a coaches job is to do is get him ready to play in the college system, so the NFL argument is nil.
 

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I'm not sure how someone could post this and actually be serious....

Urban had just come off of winning a national championship and had us loaded....
 

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Why not post the numbers AND the rankings and let people judge?

Here we go:

2007 Offense: # 14 ranking in yards/game, 457 yards/game average
2017 Offense: # 106 ranking in yards/game, 351 yards/game average

The # 14 offense in 2017 has a 491 yards/game average

2007 Defense: # 32 ranking in yards/game, 348 yards/game average - the median offense in 2007 gained 394 yards a game
2017 Defense: # 41 ranking in yards/game, 355 yards/game average - the median offense in 2017 gained 403 yards a game

The big difference between the 07 defense and the 17 defense so far is how the yards are distributed. The 17 defense is giving up a lot bigger ratio of rushing yards compared to passing yards which I think most people consider to be a bad thing for a defense overall.
 
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I hearby solemnly nominate this as a Top 10 Hall of Fame dumbest post in the history of the GCMB, GSMB, Ox's new message board, any future message boards Ox might create... and basically anything else ever written in the history of the internet.
 

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