SDS: Realistic set of expectations for Dan Mullen's first year at Florida

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I went through this right after he was hired:

Charleston So: W, UF has better talent and it is a home game.
UK: W, A UF coach can NOT start with league lost to a team with worse talent that no UF coach, not Zook, not Muschamp, not McElwain has lost to in 30 plus years and no UF coach has lost to UK at home since 1979.
Co State: W, UF has better talent and it is a home game.
at UTn: W, UF should beat UTn even there as UF has better talent and UTn has a rookie head coach.
at Miss State: W, UF should beat UTn even there as UF has better talent and Miss State has a head coach new to D1A and the SEC.
LSU: W, Mullen should not lose to coach O ever and it is at home.
at Vandy: W, UF coaches can not succeed losing at Vandy and UF of course has better talent
UGa: T, UF has had great success against these guy recently. They won't have all those SRs next year. UF really should go back to winning this game, but we shall see.
UMo: W, UF has better talent and must win such a game at home.
SoCar: W, Mullen can not afford to lose to Muschamp and UF has better talent and the game is at home.
Idaho: W, No UF coach can lose such a game.
at FSU: T, They have a new coach too, but maybe a bit more talent than UF.

So I will be disappointed with anything less than 10 wins next year. I could see a slip up someplace along the line so I will only be slightly disappointed with 9 wins. 8 wins or less is pretty much a disaster with that schedule and UF's talent.

In addition I expect to see a huge improvement on offense. Marginally better is not enough. If UF scores 7 points a game more next year then UF will be 50th ish in the country in scoring. That is what needs to happen THIS YEAR. UF needs to go from 2.3 to at least 3.3 offensive TDs per game.

Im sorry bro but you have to take off the O&B glasses...

Miss St is probably a loss. A team that returns 17 starters and hosts their former head coach.
UGA is not a toss up. They have a ton of talent and are likely going to be better than us for some time till we land elite talent
FSU Who knows.

Sprinkle in a game here and there and I figure we probably go 7-5 or 8-4 at best.
 

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Im sorry bro but you have to take off the O&B glasses...

No O&B glasses here, just realistic expectation that if Mullen is a coach worthy of this job he will beat every team UF has more talent than. That is what a coach should be able to do. By talent of course I mean more than star gazing.
 

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I went through this right after he was hired:

Charleston So: W, UF has better talent and it is a home game.
UK: W, A UF coach can NOT start with league lost to a team with worse talent that no UF coach, not Zook, not Muschamp, not McElwain has lost to in 30 plus years and no UF coach has lost to UK at home since 1979.
Co State: W, UF has better talent and it is a home game.
at UTn: W, UF should beat UTn even there as UF has better talent and UTn has a rookie head coach.
at Miss State: W, UF should beat UTn even there as UF has better talent and Miss State has a head coach new to D1A and the SEC.
LSU: W, Mullen should not lose to coach O ever and it is at home.
at Vandy: W, UF coaches can not succeed losing at Vandy and UF of course has better talent
UGa: T, UF has had great success against these guy recently. They won't have all those SRs next year. UF really should go back to winning this game, but we shall see.
UMo: W, UF has better talent and must win such a game at home.
SoCar: W, Mullen can not afford to lose to Muschamp and UF has better talent and the game is at home.
Idaho: W, No UF coach can lose such a game.
at FSU: T, They have a new coach too, but maybe a bit more talent than UF.

So I will be disappointed with anything less than 10 wins next year. I could see a slip up someplace along the line so I will only be slightly disappointed with 9 wins. 8 wins or less is pretty much a disaster with that schedule and UF's talent.

In addition I expect to see a huge improvement on offense. Marginally better is not enough. If UF scores 7 points a game more next year then UF will be 50th ish in the country in scoring. That is what needs to happen THIS YEAR. UF needs to go from 2.3 to at least 3.3 offensive TDs per game.
If you’re going to be disappointed with anything less than 10 wins, prepare yourself now.
 

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I went through this right after he was hired:

Charleston So: W, UF has better talent and it is a home game.
UK: W, A UF coach can NOT start with league lost to a team with worse talent that no UF coach, not Zook, not Muschamp, not McElwain has lost to in 30 plus years and no UF coach has lost to UK at home since 1979.
Co State: W, UF has better talent and it is a home game.
at UTn: W, UF should beat UTn even there as UF has better talent and UTn has a rookie head coach.
at Miss State: W, UF should beat UTn even there as UF has better talent and Miss State has a head coach new to D1A and the SEC.
LSU: W, Mullen should not lose to coach O ever and it is at home.
at Vandy: W, UF coaches can not succeed losing at Vandy and UF of course has better talent
UGa: T, UF has had great success against these guy recently. They won't have all those SRs next year. UF really should go back to winning this game, but we shall see.
UMo: W, UF has better talent and must win such a game at home.
SoCar: W, Mullen can not afford to lose to Muschamp and UF has better talent and the game is at home.
Idaho: W, No UF coach can lose such a game.
at FSU: T, They have a new coach too, but maybe a bit more talent than UF.

So I will be disappointed with anything less than 10 wins next year. I could see a slip up someplace along the line so I will only be slightly disappointed with 9 wins. 8 wins or less is pretty much a disaster with that schedule and UF's talent.

In addition I expect to see a huge improvement on offense. Marginally better is not enough. If UF scores 7 points a game more next year then UF will be 50th ish in the country in scoring. That is what needs to happen THIS YEAR. UF needs to go from 2.3 to at least 3.3 offensive TDs per game.



My God, this is being positive. I hope your right. I’m thinking more like 8-9 wins tops. I would love to beat the Noles more than anybody next year, we’ve got to turn that series back around and take back the state.
 

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It's an actual message board not Swamp Gas. More like the constant handicapping of Mullen's poor SEC record and constant excuses made for his record against ranked teams. Guess what...it's even worse overall...4-29? Can you say 4 and 29? Worse than Mac. Say what? Worse than Mac. Queue all the "but's" and "outmanned" cries.

I am truly in a wait and see approach having been burned on 3/4 football hires. But here is the deal...I am willing to give him a shot and am on record saying as much. I thought he did well this recruiting cycle. He will have to do leaps and bounds better though. Top 5 or bust or we'll be hearing this outmanned baloney for the next 2-3 years.

I think he can turn it around with a 6-8 class. Doesn’t have to be top 5. But I actually believe we will kill it with the 19 class. I will be surprised if it’s not top 5.
 

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Ever the pumper.....I see 9-3 with a solid bowl win for a 10 win season. Go Gator’s!
Man, I think you may be too
Ever the pumper.....I see 9-3 with a solid bowl win for a 10 win season. Go Gator’s!
You've got a pretty rosy outlook for a leatherneck, don't ya? Keep up the good work, we can use a little sunlight and oxygen around here. I'm not ready to make any predictions, but I'm a lot more encouraged by what is going on NOW - as opposed to what preceded. Forever faithful - Go Gators!
 

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It's an actual message board not Swamp Gas. More like the constant handicapping of Mullen's poor SEC record and constant excuses made for his record against ranked teams. Guess what...it's even worse overall...4-29? Can you say 4 and 29? Worse than Mac. Say what? Worse than Mac. Queue all the "but's" and "outmanned" cries.

I am truly in a wait and see approach having been burned on 3/4 football hires. But here is the deal...I am willing to give him a shot and am on record saying as much. I thought he did well this recruiting cycle. He will have to do leaps and bounds better though. Top 5 or bust or we'll be hearing this outmanned baloney for the next 2-3 years.

Nick Saban with an outmanned Sparty team was 7-12 against ranked opponents and I think 3 of those wins were in his fifth year. Spurrier at Duke was 2-4. Harbaugh his first 2 years at an outmanned Stanford team he was 1-5. Les Miles 3-10 at outmanned OK St. Just a few examples of successful coaches that struggled with ranked opponents when they coached for schools that weren’t able to bring in equal talent as their ranked competition. I have my reservations about Dan Mullen but has nothing to do with his record against ranked teams. Only a 5* fool makes that argument.
 

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My God, this is being positive. I hope your right. I’m thinking more like 8-9 wins tops. I would love to beat the Noles more than anybody next year, we’ve got to turn that series back around and take back the state.

I think it’s more of a case for setting himself up to b!tch and moan about Mullen for the next year than having real expectations that it’ll happen.
 

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Nick Saban with an outmanned Sparty team was 7-12 against ranked opponents and I think 3 of those wins were in his fifth year. Spurrier at Duke was 2-4. Harbaugh his first 2 years at an outmanned Stanford team he was 1-5. Les Miles 3-10 at outmanned OK St. Just a few examples of successful coaches that struggled with ranked opponents when they coached for schools that weren’t able to bring in equal talent as their ranked competition. I have my reservations about Dan Mullen but has nothing to do with his record against ranked teams. Only a 5* fool makes that argument.

Ha. You are already putting it to good use. Trying to even defend his 4-29 record(2-17 ranked vs ranked) is a joke. And you're a 5* excuse maker. What's your nic on swamp gas?
 

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Ha. You are already putting it to good use. Trying to even defend his 4-29 record(2-17 ranked vs ranked) is a joke. And you're a 5* excuse maker. What's your nic on swamp gas?

I don’t go on there anymore. Too many clowns. My point still stands though and you can’t really dispute it.
 

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I don’t go on there anymore. Too many clowns. My point still stands though and you can’t really dispute it.

I just did. Mullen has the worst record in CFB history vs ranked teams. Not much to dispute.

But hey, nine seasons in...probably an aberration. Not enough data points. Nine seasons. LOL.

GTFO.
 

Acecustis

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I just did. Mullen has the worst record in CFB history vs ranked teams. Not much to dispute.

But hey, nine seasons in...probably an aberration. Not enough data points. Nine seasons. LOL.

GTFO.

Saban 5 seasons in and was 7-12. That’s pretty bad. Les Miles in 4 years 3-10. That stinks. No way either one of them would be good at real college football programs...
 

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Saban 5 seasons in and was 7-12. That’s pretty bad. Les Miles in 4 years 3-10. That stinks. No way either one of them would be good at real college football programs...

NINE YEARS. Do you think that's a small sample? Yes or no is all I want in response from you.
 

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Give me their records in years 5-9 please...then let's talk. Cool.
 

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NINE YEARS. Do you think that's a small sample? Yes or no is all I want in response from you.

Nope. I think it is a sample of what he did at a school with no recruiting resources. Is 5 years a small sample?
 

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Sustained Drives > Punts
Tackles for Losses > Whiffs
TD > FG
> 8 Wins
I'm good and proclaim a great transition year
:grin:
 

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