Is March Madness in jeopardy?

Jbossgator8

Founding Member
Senior Member
Lifetime Member
Jun 11, 2014
4,706
4,299
Founding Member
Gators to the NCAA Tourney and there is NOTHING you can do about it. Go Gators!!
 

InstiGATOR1

Well-Known Member
Lifetime Member
Mar 27, 2016
4,890
3,201
So I wonder what seed UF will get?

1. By RPI UF as a 45 would be 45/4 = 11.25 or a 12 seed.

2. By the bracket matrix UF is an 8 seed.

3. By quadrant 1 wins, UF is tied for 3rd overall with only UNC and KU having more. Note UF's has two quadrant 1 wins, UAR at home and at SoCar that are in danger of slipping to quadrant 2. So UF wants both these teams to win a game or two in the final couple of SEC games and in the SEC tourney.

4. Lunardi has UF as 6 seed prior to the at UAL game while Palm has UF as a 9 seed post the at UAL game.

5. UF currently has 12 quadrant 1 plus quadrant 2 wins.

The 4s and 5s in Palm average about 10 quadrant 1 + quadrant 2 wins and has wins over 3 of those teams. I think that is about where UF fits though UF's record is a tad worse than the teams in that range. We shall see.
 

ATXGator

Founding Member
Austin Gator
Lifetime Member
Jun 14, 2014
5,126
4,524
Founding Member
So I wonder what seed UF will get?

1. By RPI UF as a 45 would be 45/4 = 11.25 or a 12 seed.

2. By the bracket matrix UF is an 8 seed.

3. By quadrant 1 wins, UF is tied for 3rd overall with only UNC and KU having more. Note UF's has two quadrant 1 wins, UAR at home and at SoCar that are in danger of slipping to quadrant 2. So UF wants both these teams to win a game or two in the final couple of SEC games and in the SEC tourney.

4. Lunardi has UF as 6 seed prior to the at UAL game while Palm has UF as a 9 seed post the at UAL game.

5. UF currently has 12 quadrant 1 plus quadrant 2 wins.

The 4s and 5s in Palm average about 10 quadrant 1 + quadrant 2 wins and has wins over 3 of those teams. I think that is about where UF fits though UF's record is a tad worse than the teams in that range. We shall see.

It is a guessing game for sure. A lot is determined by who wins conference tourneys and possibly sneaks in which adjust seeds. Of course there is also the rest of the season which could adjust things. Beating UK at home and making a run or winning SEC tourney will obviously be a lot different then losing to UK and going out of the SEC in the first game.

I am guessing we will be somewhere between a 6-8 seed.
 

InstiGATOR1

Well-Known Member
Lifetime Member
Mar 27, 2016
4,890
3,201
A lot is determined by who wins conference tourneys and possibly sneaks in which adjust seeds.

Surprisingly some years the committee seems to set the field ignoring the conference tourneys and work of seeding during the tourneys. They of course have to adjust if there is a surprise winner of a conference tourney who was not at large worthy.
 

ATXGator

Founding Member
Austin Gator
Lifetime Member
Jun 14, 2014
5,126
4,524
Founding Member
Surprisingly some years the committee seems to set the field ignoring the conference tourneys and work of seeding during the tourneys. They of course have to adjust if there is a surprise winner of a conference tourney who was not at large worthy.

I think they more likely ignore the last day of a tourney like the SEC because of when it ends. So if they see UF vs. Auburn in the final... they will probably give credit to UF for making the final and not do any adjustment based on the winner.
 

lagator

Senior Member
Lifetime Member
Sep 9, 2014
5,165
9,001
Beat UK and win a couple games in the SECT and we will be no worse than a 5 seed.
 

Jbossgator8

Founding Member
Senior Member
Lifetime Member
Jun 11, 2014
4,706
4,299
Founding Member
Bracketology has us as a 5 seed today. Gators 6-2 vs ranked teams this year. Tied for the most wins in the nation vs ranked teams...
 

MJMGator

Founding Member
Slightly amused
Lifetime Member
Jun 10, 2014
20,038
41,113
Founding Member
Bracketology has us as a 5 seed today. Gators 6-2 vs ranked teams this year. Tied for the most wins in the nation vs ranked teams...
It’s the losses that are hurting our seeding. We’ve got some bad ones.
 

InstiGATOR1

Well-Known Member
Lifetime Member
Mar 27, 2016
4,890
3,201
It’s the losses that are hurting our seeding. We’ve got some bad ones.

We shall see. Several past committees have not worried as much about losses as they have focused on who you beat and where did you beat them.
 

MJMGator

Founding Member
Slightly amused
Lifetime Member
Jun 10, 2014
20,038
41,113
Founding Member
We shall see. Several past committees have not worried as much about losses as they have focused on who you beat and where did you beat them.
If losses don’t hurt us, we’re vying for a 2-3 seed. That ain’t happening.
 

InstiGATOR1

Well-Known Member
Lifetime Member
Mar 27, 2016
4,890
3,201
If losses don’t hurt us, we’re vying for a 2-3 seed. That ain’t happening.

Record matters of course and that includes losses. Bad losses however do not seem to in and of themselves with some committees being an issue.

This year is somewhat like 2011 when UF was a 2 seed. UF was a 2 seed despite 8 losses and losing to JU at home, SoCar at home, UCF in Orlando and at Miss State. Maybe that year UF would have been a 1 without the bad losses like UF would have been this year without the silly losses at UGa, SoCar, UAL, Loyola at home and some similar road losses. So the bad losses wont hurt but the number will.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Help Users

You haven't joined any rooms.

    Members online

    Forum statistics

    Threads
    31,642
    Messages
    1,615,448
    Members
    1,642
    Latest member
    fishermb