Bits & Pieces: Florida vs. Kentucky

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I said before the game I expected a score of 21-20 or 17-20.

I did expect us to win though. It should have been worse than it was. Franks hit Kentucky DBs in the hands several times and was fortunate they dropped them.

Most of us were overreacting to game one. We’re probably overreacting to this one a bit too although this is a lot closer to what we are than what we saw last week.

Some sober takes:

This IS a better coached team than last year. Less confusion on O for sure. Last year’s delay and procedure penalties were constant. We’re getting the plays in on time. We can’t complain that they aren’t trying to stretch the D by taking deep shots.

The special teams coaching is waaaay better than last year.

Franks IS better. He’s feeling the rush, moving better in the pocket, he’s more of a leader. He’s still not a touch passer, and he’s inaccurate. There are things coaching can fix in a QB. Unfortunately, accuracy seems to be something a QB has or doesn’t have. Franks don’t got it.

Scarlett has shown me nothing this season. Maybe it’s rust but he’s not running as well as Perine or Davis.

Raymond can’t catch.

The OL...sigh. It’s not like we’re rolling out a bunch of true freshmen and a D2 transfer. We have size, experience, even some depth. And they suck. We KNOW Hevesy can coach. He can’t put in what God left out but I’d like to see progress to the level of their ability.

I don’t have much nice to say about the D or Grantham. I really hope Wilson’s injury isn’t an ACL but that’s what it looked like. We’ve got a couple of big run-stoppers at DT and they didn’t clog the middle at all. Others have mentioned the tackling problems. We’ve had this for years and this CAN be improved by coaching. Unfortunately, we have a short defensive bench without a lot of talent on it and that makes coaching a lot harder.

Big picture? We are who we thought we were. Everybody is disappointed because you let last week get your hopes up. We knew D wasn’t going to be good. We were hoping for improvements in special team coaching and in offensive coaching. We’ve got better receivers and a deeper RB corps. We lack overall talent. We have bad LBs and a bad OL. We don’t have a QB. We are who we thought we were.

Alex.
Pretty much nailed it.
 

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How many times did we have them 3rd down and the QB drops back to pass and gets outside the pocket and runs for 1st down? Must’ve happened at least 4-5 times.
I was there.......it happened 87 times. And then later he started hitting passes on 3rd and LOOOONGGGG
 

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Crazy. I get it, he is by far not the only problem, but he is a major problem and I don’t believe he will get much better.

He had no help yesterday from OL, RBs and WRs. We knew going into the season we couldn’t put a game on his shoulders, and yet that’s exactly what we tried doing last night.
 

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After reading a couple of threads, I think we'll start out with a joke to lighten the mood a little. Here goes...What did Bennie Snell say to the Florida defense when he ran into them at the bar in Club Park Avenue? "Excuse me guys, but may I push your stool in?"

:rimshot:

Bad joke, but you get the point. Snell ran for 175. He's a good back, but I couldn't believe just how many missed tackles we had. I was hoping we had that leftover habit repaired, but apparently not. I was not quite as surprised that the OL stunk, unfortunately. You won't win many when the opponent dominates both lines of scrimmage. Big story of the game as far as I'm concerned, but let's talk about some of the moving parts:

*Franks was not consistent tonight and it would be easy to say he either regressed from the first game or he just fooled us against an over matched opponent. Maybe a little of both. Though he wasn't real sharp, he was better when the game was close and made some good decisions and good reads and throws in the first half. I didn't think he handled the pressure when behind with the clock ticking. To be fair, the OL didn't make his job any easier. The missed opportunity on the two point conversion attempt was a text book case of Franks making his mind up to throw back across the formation, which we scored against CSU with, and completely missing a wide open Davis...on the side he rolled to! He may be better, but there's still work to be done, especially with composure.

*Poster boy for our OL woes is Martez Ivey. Tackle body; Guard feet. Poor Fred Johnson is a close second. But really they all seem to play with cement shoes and look confused on their assignments frequently. The SEC Network commentator made a good point on the step-gap responsibility that remains backside that wasn't fulfilled. Got to at least be able to get a punch and slow the guy up a step. Ground Hog Day.

*The entire D was not good. It starts with the DL, who simply got manhandled the majority of the game (when they weren't being held; a lot of no calls IMO). Our LBs aren't good, but they're really not good when the DL can't protect them. Henderson looked like our best cover guy in the secondary and I can't say much bad about Chauncey, but we gave up two TD's that certainly should have been better covered IMO. First one was a young guy that got caught peeking at the QB when he should have been in the receiver's jersey with him. The second I thought the safety had plenty of time to read the route and adjust, but it never happened. Losing Wilson will definitely hurt. Even though they did have a couple of good stops, the entire D better grow up in a hurry.

*I've alluded to what I believe were several missed holding calls by the officials, so you can read that as I'm not impressed with their performance. I won't say "we was robbed," but they didn't help matters. The homer in me also says as close as the field goal attempt was, it was hard for me to see justification in the no good call. I guess I understand the rule change that the ball must be inside the upright when it crosses, but I'm not agreeing with it tonight. Could have made a difference, particularly if Franks would have seen Davis! Moot point I guess.

*High point in the game was the 99 yard drive. It wasn't smooth, but the ending was beautiful.

*Freddy Swain was announced as the player of the game. Toney looked good. Franks, again, wasn't consistent with all his throws, but we had some drops. Cleveland had some stone hands tonight.

*I'm sure Mullen (and the staff) will be raked over the coals and surely they deserve some criticism. Personally, I felt like we didn't rush the ball to set up the pass nearly enough at the outset, but maybe what they knew about the OL influenced that decision? Poor tackling has to fall in the coach's lap. Illegal substitution penalty after the time out was inexcusable. I'm sure there are more. But if you didn't think that there was going to be some of what was on display tonight from this roster, you were kidding yourself. The fact that we saw it this early was a kindling point. The fact that UK was better than they have been, got pretty good play from their QB, Snell, and didn't shoot themselves in the foot like last year had a bearing on the outcome.

Back to the drawing board and another week of *****in' in store. Got to find away to get more wins on the LOS. For as much as the average fans these days want to focus on the skill positions and the need for entertainment, the game is still usually won or lost at the line. I believe tonight helped remind us of that. Still a lot of football to be played, but it's got to get better in all phases as we move forward. Go Gators!

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Thank you cover 2 for two weeks of work. I agree it is all about the big boys in the SEC.
 

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3rd and Grantham.

It is his signature.

Not sure we set the edge once on those plays.

That’s also why I don’t put a ton of stock in the FG call. Even if we’d been given the 3, AND converted for 2, they immediately marched straight down the field on a “must stop” drive for us when we knew they’d be running. If they needed 3 to win the game, I have no doubt they would’ve gotten it. If not, it would’ve just forced OT and put us all in bed later, just as disappointed as we are now.
 

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i dont know if its been said, but to me this hurts the most because the game last week more than met my expectations . i expected more growth from there and we went splat. everything regressed. even if we somehow squeaked out a win. we honestly looked pathetic in every aspect ( except maybe low amount of penalties) what ever they do next week will be empty knowing beatdowns are coming with our remaining schedule
 

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Did the D line shed any blocks or make any tackles of note? LBs on milk cartons.

It seems when we ran some quick hitters with toney Mo picked up but then we would run the exact same series without mixing and matching the pieces. Toney was open early on almost every play he was in, but FF wasn’t seeing it pre-snap. Clearly we are not going to get any O line push this year, so we are back to a lot of WR screens/slants, but we can use those to open other pass plays and the running game. While I wanted to believe n FF, he could easily have had 4 picks yesterday. Staring into double coverage and then throwing late. At least they were too hot for the D to handle.

D, I don’t know, they were the most inept I have seen in a long time, no edge control, too many people upfield and thus no containment. Regarding Nebraska, longest road trip of my life in a broken down motor home...I had repressed that memory..

Scariest part to me was that Mullen had that same shell shocked look that Mac had last year. I hope they quickly pull it all together.

Go Gators
 

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i dont know if its been said, but to me this hurts the most because the game last week more than met my expectations . i expected more growth from there and we went splat. everything regressed. even if we somehow squeaked out a win. we honestly looked pathetic in every aspect ( except maybe low amount of penalties) what ever they do next week will be empty knowing beatdowns are coming with our remaining schedule
Welcome to Mullen ball. Remember when I said we coud be in trouble with this UK squad and the team might not be focused, already seeing this as a win after the first week dance party?

We will win by 3-4 TD next week. That's what Mullenz does.
 

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We were beat by a JUCO QB making his first start. Let that sink in.
 

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I think its impossible to really overstate just how much of a hole that Butters and Foley put this program in. Our talent level is the lowest I can ever remember and our facilities and overall football atmosphere have made it damn near impossible to correct that crucial part of the equation. I don't know if we are ever going to get back to the Spurrier/Meyer level in my lifetime. For those who think its as simple as getting a better coach, I don't see a better coach who is available and even if he were I don't see this program replacing Mullen any time soon. He is going to be here for years and by that I don't mean 3 years I mean 5-6 minimum. So buckle up buttercup.
 

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Newbie here. The only one positive thing from last night was my father wasn't with me to see it. My father passed away this past February and watching the game isn't the same without him. If he was still alive, I would have been looking for a new tv. The man was passionate about his beloved gators. The last thing my dad said to me was,"Son, I am glad they got rid of 3 star general. I just hope Dan isn't one too." I hope you guys don't mind me joining in the talk. I just wanna to be in group that reminds me of my father.
Ok, now that's over, I am so disappointed with the lost. Since, we have been playing like we are in the 70's can someone tell me where I can get a polyester leisure suit?
 

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I’ll say this -

I’d rather have Mullen and staff with our boys than that Clown Taggart and all that talent in Trailerhassee.
We can correct some of the mistakes, move some personnel around, and better utilize our RBs and WRs... but the nulls are now saddled with a few years of Willie Ball with an expensive buyout.

String together a couple of good recruiting classes here and we’re back to at least a level of respectability.

I’m looking forward to seeing how Mullen and crew adjust and come out against the Rams next week.
This might be a good barometer for how the rest of the season goes.

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(Anyone heard from NV this morning? I’m a little worried about him :grin: )
 

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I’m sure most of you saw the interview with Spurrier in the booth during the first half. One of those dildos beside him asked what would it take for Mullen to turn it around. He said he’s got to recruit. Recruit like Alabama and Georgia. He knows that’s the shortcoming of this team.

I wish I had the time, but I would like to research the recruitment of UK’s O line for the past, say, 3-4 years. Basically what number of “stars” signed. Could be telling.
 

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Newbie here. The only one positive thing from last night was my father wasn't with me to see it. My father passed away this past February and watching the game isn't the same without him. If he was still alive, I would have been looking for a new tv. The man was passionate about his beloved gators. The last thing my dad said to me was,"Son, I am glad they got rid of 3 star general. I just hope Dan isn't one too." I hope you guys don't mind me joining in the talk. I just wanna to be in group that reminds me of my father.
Ok, now that's over, I am so disappointed with the lost. Since, we have been playing like we are in the 70's can someone tell me where I can get a polyester leisure suit?

Welcome, padre! With “pastor” in your name, I thought it important to point out that if you can get past the gruff and sometimes crude exterior, we’ve got a pretty fun group here. Enjoy!
 

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So you’re only pissed at Mullenz for mismanaging the play calling, the roster management by playing and sticking with the wrong guys, and for his crappy assistant coaches? The only thing you left out is him being almost catatonic at halftime and completely unable to make adjustments, and his sh*t recruiting. Put it all together and and you pretty much have the entire package making him bottom 2 or 3 worst coaches in the SEC.

All the pumping in the world won’t change the fact Mullen will leave here with a worse record than Chimp and Stain short of a miracle. On the bright side, we will crush CSU next week so get ready to get your pump on and lay the points. Or if you really want to feel better go read MSU’s forums. Bet they are really lamenting the day they lost Danny boy.
2 games coached. It’s beyond impressive that people like you have made it into adulthood. He was left a roster void of talent and enthusiasm. This team is filled with pvssies. Recruit over every last one of them. We aren’t winning jack any time soon and it’s 99.9% Macs and Foley’s fault.

But I agree with anyone who thinks the game plan was lousy. No rhythm, rotated too many backs, too cute playcalling. But things like this make some of it make sense:

 

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Newbie here. The only one positive thing from last night was my father wasn't with me to see it. My father passed away this past February and watching the game isn't the same without him. If he was still alive, I would have been looking for a new tv. The man was passionate about his beloved gators. The last thing my dad said to me was,"Son, I am glad they got rid of 3 star general. I just hope Dan isn't one too." I hope you guys don't mind me joining in the talk. I just wanna to be in group that reminds me of my father.
Ok, now that's over, I am so disappointed with the lost. Since, we have been playing like we are in the 70's can someone tell me where I can get a polyester leisure suit?


Welcome. New blood, gator fans, always welcome. Sorry about your dad but at least he was spared last night.

I just imagine someone who passed away just before the Spurrier era and never knew winning football at UF.
 

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i dont know if its been said, but to me this hurts the most because the game last week more than met my expectations . i expected more growth from there and we went splat. everything regressed. even if we somehow squeaked out a win. we honestly looked pathetic in every aspect ( except maybe low amount of penalties) what ever they do next week will be empty knowing beatdowns are coming with our remaining schedule

Charleston Southern is garbage and no one should have taken anything from that game. They were a tomato can...fodder.
 

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