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Renard904

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I cant believe we’re talking about changing coaches. This man was handed a 4 win team and may dbl that total in his first year. Smh
You're absolutely correct.
It's becoming hard for me to follow everyone's expectations. We won 4 games last year. And were fortunate for those 4. Why everyone is on edge is beyond me.
My only guess is that it's just conditioning. It's the new norm around these parts. Every time we lose a game everyone acts like we're above losing. Like we should be in total rage about every loss. If that's the barometer, we might as well shut down the program.
 

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You're absolutely correct.
It's becoming hard for me to follow everyone's expectations. We won 4 games last year. And were fortunate for those 4. Why everyone is on edge is beyond me.
My only guess is that it's just conditioning. It's the new norm around these parts. Every time we lose a game everyone acts like we're above losing. Like we should be in total rage about every loss. If that's the barometer, we might as well shut down the program.
Couldve easily been 2 wins for sure
 

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I cant believe we’re talking about changing coaches. This man was handed a 4 win team and may dbl that total in his first year. Smh
There are some who don't believe we can turn this around until Mullen is gone. They have been very consistent and unwavering. I think Mullen will get us to winning 10 plus/minus wins a year consistently. I won't believe he can win a championship until he does. That said, he needs time, but he also needs to flush some butter's garbage out of the program.
 

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There's a chance EJ comes in, light it up and never look back. But what if he comes in, struggles behind this atrocious offensive line, loses his confidence and never develops because of it? It's really not worth the risk during a lost season. He gets to play in 4 games. You give him spot duty in 2 more games to build his confidence going into the offseason. And hopefully we see a confident, well-prepared EJ in the Spring Game.
Listen I hate to be harsh but if one bad game changes his mentality enough that hes no longer able to develop then he shouldn't be playing this game. All the greats have had a bad game and some even got pulled only to come back stronger. If this kid gets his shot and stinks it up and quits then he shouldn't be at UF. I dont think that's the case. I think you build him up like you did Frank's quick throws to build confidence then let slowly open up the offense.
 
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gatorkev85

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I am all for making a change at the QB position, but what spring game were you watching? He looked just average, and very green / shaky.
I didnt say he looked great I just said he looked the best. He made good decisions, showed he knows when to throw bullets and when to throw touch passes. He was to quick to run he seemed to go through his progressions. I thought he looked solid for a player who had only went through one camp.

I'm all for getting him a few series against SC because it's a tough team, but I think that should turn into at least a half against Idaho and 4-5 series against FSU and then the full game for the bowl.
 

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No...but I think there's two coaches that need to go (one is very obvious).
 

Renard904

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Listen I hate to be harsh but if one bad game changes his mentality enough that hes no longer able to develop then he shouldn't be playing this game. All the greats have had a bad game and some even got pulled only to come back stronger. If this kid gets his shot and stinks it up and quits then he shouldn't be at UF. I dont think that's the case. I think you build him up like you did Frank's quick throws to build confidence then let slowly open up the offense.
You're right. Coach Mullen mentioned that as well. He's not doing it because he's convinced that it helps. Just the same as your strategy, it could all be bullcrap. He's just making a choice and going with it. No fault in that. Clearly, if you were in charge, you would handle it differently. I respect that as well. But are you so narrow-sighted that you believe only your train of thought would work? That's laughable. There's so much randomness and uncontrollable variables in football to have one singular path to winning. I prefer decisiveness in life. If you're gonna make a choice commit to it. There's no shame in being wrong. You don't know it until you've learned it.
 

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I hate to agree, but it looks like that's the case. I just don't get it w/ him bringing practically that entire staff with him from MSU. English needs to go and that needs to be said. He can't coach....and he damn sure can't recruit. It's ironic Mullen used the 'definition of insanity' during he's post-game presser to describe the QB situation, as it applies to some of his assistants as well.
 

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This kid tweeted that he may visit in December. Listed a CB, but have to imagine the staff is looking for a Safety in this class:

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gatorkev85

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You're right. Coach Mullen mentioned that as well. He's not doing it because he's convinced that it helps. Just the same as your strategy, it could all be bullcrap. He's just making a choice and going with it. No fault in that. Clearly, if you were in charge, you would handle it differently. I respect that as well. But are you so narrow-sighted that you believe only your train of thought would work? That's laughable. There's so much randomness and uncontrollable variables in football to have one singular path to winning. I prefer decisiveness in life. If you're gonna make a choice commit to it. There's no shame in being wrong. You don't know it until you've learned it.
I'm not at all saying my way would work, I'm saying if something us broken fix it. Clearly Frank's can't run the offense we can all see that, even Mullen sees it which is why he made the change last week. Im just saying why go backwards and put Frank's back in when our season goals cannot be reached (win the east, sec championship, major bowl, playoffs). Frank's nor Trask was Mullens guy, Jones was his guy which means Mullen chose him because it fits his style of play. The kid has been on campus two months shy of a year. It makes sense to go with the future and not the present if the present cannot get you where you want to be.

I think Mullen is just afraid to fail right now but me personally would rather lose with Jones and him gain the experience for next year than to lose with Frank's. That's just me. I also wouldn't hold it against him if we lost with Jones and that's the God's honest truth because I'd feel better going into next season knowing the kid understands the speed of college vs high school. You don't learn that by getting 4-5 plays in a season.
 

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Obviously that's sarcasm, but Mullen continuing to trot Franks back on the field after he was hitting at less than 30% was asinine. Mullen said it himself in the press conference, the "insanity" definition. Then why did he keep trotting Franks out? It was obvious the kid needed to be pulled, the game was over, we had no chance at a comeback, the defense had given up....and yet, here comes Franks - again and again. Mullen had his McElwain/Muschamp moment in this game. The team tanked it. The coaches didn't prepare properly? Who knows what happened? But getting blown out by a middling Missouri team with significantly less talented isn't a good look for any coach at UF.

I have similar concerns, but I recall last year many here were clamoring for ldr to take a seat in favor of FF. “What could it hurt?” we said... Then we found out why the coaches were so “stubborn.”

I’m not advocating to keep FF in the starting lineup. I’m just saying we don’t always know as much as we may think. I think Trask has earned the chance to start vs scar, but I’m under no delusions that Trask will set the college football world on fire. What little I’ve seen EJ needs more development, IMEUO (in my extremely unprofessional opinion).
 

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I cant believe we’re talking about changing coaches. This man was handed a 4 win team and may dbl that total in his first year. Smh

I can not believe people keep saying Mullen was handed a four win team. Mullen started 0-0 like everyone else this year. Mullen had players recruited as UF won two of the last three SEC East titles. Mullen was not handed a program in disarray. Mullen was not handed player who expected to lose. Mullen was not handed a program that had had losing records year after year. That last years team went bad after losing its coach a midseason does not change UF program and is just excuse making for Mullen.
 

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I can not believe people keep saying Mullen was handed a four win team. Mullen started 0-0 like everyone else this year. Mullen had players recruited as UF won two of the last three SEC East titles. Mullen was not handed a program in disarray. Mullen was not handed player who expected to lose. Mullen was not handed a program that had had losing records year after year. That last years team went bad after losing its coach a midseason does not change UF program and is just excuse making for Mullen.
Going by our recruiting the past 3-4 years under Mac, the fact that we couldve easily been a 2 win team last year says youre wrong. Did you not watch those games in ATL the years we won the East? They were blowouts. Michigan embarrassed us, we lost badly to the good teams out there. This team is not very good right now, and Mullen has his work cut out for him. He was not handed the keys to a sportscar, he got a Team with a lot of holes.
 

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