Recruiting 2019 recruiting still Butterslike, #17 class

[Omar's Coming Yo!]

Zook wasn't a great recruiter, he was nothing more than a time-slot hit; the UF brand was huge at that time because of Spurrier. If Zook was our head coach now, he wouldn't be faring any better than Mullen.

What? He was a great recruiter. Do you know how many top 25 recruiting classes Illinois has had in the entire recruiting sites history? 2. Both were zooks. He had a top 20 class at Illinois.

 

[Omar's Coming Yo!]

The claims that we don't have great recruiters and we've fallen from grace in general can absolutely coexist. There's a reason why I began and ended my post with the statement that some, possibly much, of our problems are related to the recruiters themselves.

But what we're witnessing today isn't some new phenomenon. As other's have said, this is basically a re-run of virtually every class dating back to 2011, with 2012 being the lone exception. And even that one had us losing a Tampa kid to Usc and Diggs to Maryland, with many people asking the question, "why can't we land a ____?"

For close to a decade, with many interchanging parts and personnel, we've largely sang the same song every single NSD. Kids who'd start the Spring game going to be a guaranteed RS behind 5 players at another school. Kids playing us all along only to make a bizarre pick at the end. We used to land kids the moment they got an offer at FNL. That's not happening anymore because the luster we once had isn't there right now. Hopefully, it's a trend that will run its course with some overall improvements. But it's been going on since well before Mullen.

The lack of success hasn't stopped Herman who took over a program that had 3 losing seasons in their last 5 years before he showed up.

Watch this and you'll get your answers in 5 minutes.

 

[soflagator]

The lack of success hasn't stopped Herman who took over a program that had 3 losing seasons in their last 5 years before he showed up.

Watch this and you'll get your answers in 5 minutes.

How exactly does that refute anything I just said?

 

[Swamp Donkey]

The claims that we don't have great recruiters and we've fallen from grace in general can absolutely coexist. There's a reason why I began and ended my post with the statement that some, possibly much, of our problems are related to the recruiters themselves..

Imo mediocre at best recruiters, a decade of trash football, and section 8 housing football facilities absolutely can and do coexist with us right now.

Only of the three can be remedied immediately.

The other can and should have been rectified largely in a year, but UAA wants to squeeze squeeze squeez the alums.

 

[Gulfstream]

Zook wasn't a great recruiter, he was nothing more than a time-slot hit; the UF brand was huge at that time because of Spurrier. If Zook was our head coach now, he wouldn't be faring any better than Mullen.

A ratings sweep!

Keep'em coming.

 

[soflagator]

Imo mediocre at best recruiters, a decade of trash football, and section 8 housing football facilities absolutely can and do coexist with us right now.

Only_____of the three can be remedied immediately.

The other can and should have been rectified largely in a year, but UAA wants to squeeze squeeze squeez the alums.

I'm assuming you meant to put "one" there, and I'd agree. Now, it's technically not over yet. But if we should see the type of finish that most are expecting, changes need to be made immediately. The other factors will sort themselves out with time. I do think the we helped our cause with the 9 wins this year, but if no upgrades are made, we're going to be running into a chicken vs egg scenario very quickly.

 

[Mr2Bits]

4. Is our lack of facilities the big problem?

Have you seen our locker room, it looks like a Lifestyles gym

 

[Renard904]

No that guy is urban Meyer.

Urbs had a hell of an '06 class. The rest weren't anything to write home about. He recruited a boat load of highly rated, Percy Harvin wannabes.

 

[alcoholica]

Urbs had a hell of an '06 class. The rest weren't anything to write home about. He recruited a boat load of highly rated, Percy Harvin wannabes.

2007 was really good too

 

[oxrageous]

Things are so low you guys are openly pining for Ron Freaking Zook, who is scrubbing floors at a bank right now. He was such a great recruiter that Illinois fired his ass.

What's next? Maybe Muschamp wasn't so bad? Butters didn't get a fair shake?

 

[soflagator]

Things are so low you guys are openly pining for Ron Freaking Zook, who is scrubbing floors at a bank right now. He was such a great recruiter that Illinois fired his ass.

What's next? Maybe Muschamp wasn't so bad? Butters didn't get a fair shake?

I'm all for jokes, but that's ridiculous.

It's the middle of the day.

 

[neteng]

Things are so low you guys are openly pining for Ron Freaking Zook, who is scrubbing floors at a bank right now. He was such a great recruiter that Illinois fired his ass.

What's next? Maybe Muschamp wasn't so bad? Butters didn't get a fair shake?

Im still trying to figure out why things are so low around here.

And ... thought zOoK's recruiting abilities were generally acknowledged as one of the best while he was here at UF and he is scrubbing that floor because he can't do anything else ... like coach?

 

[maheo30]

Things are so low you guys are openly pining for Ron Freaking Zook, who is scrubbing floors at a bank right now.

I assume you are joking, but Zook has been the special teams coach for the Green Bay Packers for 4 years now.

I will say, because Zook could recruit then doesn’t mean he could now. A lot has changed since then.

 

[alcoholica]

Things are so low you guys are openly pining for Ron Freaking Zook, who is scrubbing floors at a bank right now. He was such a great recruiter that Illinois fired his ass.

What's next? Maybe Muschamp wasn't so bad? Butters didn't get a fair shake?

Ron Zook

 

[BMF]

Things are so low you guys are openly pining for Ron Freaking Zook, who is scrubbing floors at a bank right now. He was such a great recruiter that Illinois fired his ass.

What's next? Maybe Muschamp wasn't so bad? Butters didn't get a fair shake?

Unfortunately....and like Muschamp & Butters, Ron Zook is a multi-millionaire spending his UF money somewhere enjoying life.

But, he's actually the ST's coach for the Packers:

Packers.com, the official website of the Green Bay Packers

 

[Renard904]

2007 was really good too

Just looked at '07 and you're right. Fell off a cliff after that, though. The class rankings were decent, but the overall production was sub-standard.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Urbs had a hell of an '06 class. The rest weren't anything to write home about. He recruited a boat load of highly rated, Percy Harvin wannabes.

2010 was pretty good but very slanted toward defense.

 

[alcoholica]

Just looked at '07 and you're right. Fell off a cliff after that, though. The class rankings were decent, but the overall production was sub-standard.

Yeah, there was a year or two where a bunch of kids never even made it on campus

 

[MotownGator]

And a lifestyles gym is bad then - right?

Lifetime is awesome.

 

[jdh5484]

But how many 5 stars did he sign?