Recruiting 2019 recruiting still Butterslike, #17 class

[TheDouglas78]

Exactly. But what I am asking ... how does one get a higher decimal than another player in the same star bracket. Is it position based as well?

camps, game film, projections, etc... I would assume position as well, being not all positions are equal.

 

[TheDouglas78]

the problem is many of us all look at the film the same, might be covering what a lot of us already see.

 

[Swamp Donkey]

Ok. So when you have a position that needs to be filled, say like OL, do those 4 stars get counted as high as a 4 star QB?

No, and a good thing too or we would get nuked for not landing DL and safeties.

It is a weakness of the systems and why Chimp was able to disguise his failures by landing 6-7 DBs every year.

Meeting our needs is of course inherently subjective and this tries to be objective.

 

[neteng]

camps, game film, projections, etc... I would assume position as well, being not all positions are equal.

So the difference between them is subjective and accounts for positions on the team and not what a team actually needs? Obviously, and I think this is very important, a team should be in a position to recruit with balance but if a team is not balanced then it kinda skews the ranking until they get themselves back to being balanced?

 

[neteng]

No, and a good thing too or we would get nuked for not landing DL and safeties.

It is a weakness of the systems and why Chimp was able to disguise his failures by landing 6-7 DBs every year.

Meeting our needs is of course inherently subjective and this tries to be objective.

So ... really, based on what you are saying ... rankings dont really matter.

EDIT: They do matter, dont get tripped up on that and get defensive ... but it can be skewed since it is very subjective.

 

[T REX]

neteng, what do you go by over at Swamp Gas?

 

[TheDouglas78]

So the difference between them is subjective and accounts for positions on the team and not what a team actually needs? Obviously, and I think this is very important, a team should be in a position to recruit with balance but if a team is not balanced then it kinda skews the ranking until they get themselves back to being balanced?

Just based on the players and the pool of players. The rating doesn't change dependent on the team that signed them. I honestly, think ratings are good, but some positions (lines) they are not the end all be all. The individual rankings not as important as the total, because they are a measure of athletic talent and how they project to the college level.

 

[T REX]

TREXDADDY ... F off

And the white flag. Done and done.

 

[neteng]

Just based on the players and the pool of players. The rating doesn't change dependent on the team that signed them. I honestly, think ratings are good, but some positions (lines) they are not the end all be all. The individual rankings not as important as the total, because they are a measure of athletic talent and how they project to the college level.

Thats my point. Lots of peeps here get so caught up on saying top 10 and stars matter, but in our position it is deeper than that. We have ourselves in a position where we are really unbalanced in certain places and need to fill up in positions that don't get the overall push up the rankings as other positions, right? I look at a couple teams above us and can't for the life of me see why they are higher than us.

 

[T REX]

Its no white flag ... its a hand to your face and me walking off. You really have no value to add to my questions so I really dont want to waste time on you anymore. You just want to say cliche things that sounds good on the internet. I asked a question and you didnt want to answer. Later Gator.

One more for the win...cool story bro.

Damn man, it's Xmas for God's sake. Chill. I'm one of the first people to criticize our head coach and I'm waiting till NSD before I jump off any cliffs. Merry Christmas.

 

[TheDouglas78]

Thats my point. Lots of peeps here get so caught up on saying top 10 and stars matter, but in our position it is deeper than that. We have ourselves in a position where we are really unbalanced in certain places and need to fill up in positions that don't get the overall push up the rankings as other positions, right? I look at a couple teams above us and can't for the life of me see why they are higher than us.

I think we should be in the top 10, but with the talent in our area that should be a given. My main concern about this class is DT and Safety. if we sure that during NSD the ranking will follow.

 

[-THE DUDE-]

Can we all, at least agree...STARS DO MATTER?

Yes when looking at it as a whole. Individually no. Teams that sign the most 4-5 stars over a period of time is far more likely to win big.

 

[neteng]

I think we should be in the top 10, but with the talent in our area that should be a given. My main concern about this class is DT and Safety. if we sure that during NSD the ranking will follow.

Agree with you, though not sure if we are top 10 or not as it seems to just be splitting a bunch of hairs between teams in how the algorithm carries the ones.

If Mullen dont shore up the DT and DB positions in Feb... this class is a bust no matter how good we did on the O side. We have to get balanced or we will be going through the same riggamaroe next year and on field success will suffer.

 

[Tay Bang]

Nebraska isnt shyt and never will be again.

Analogy...

 

[TheDouglas78]

Agree with you, though not sure if we are top 10 or not as it seems to just be splitting a bunch of hairs between teams in how the algorithm carries the ones.

If Mullen dont shore up the DT and DB positions in Feb... this class is a bust no matter how good we did on the O side. We have to get balanced or we will be going through the same riggamaroe next year and on field success will suffer.

Also factor in a tougher schedule in 2019.

 

[Tay Bang]

yes, because recruiters are magically, which is why Bama has so many they can load up even their analyst positions with them. Being they rank the best recruiters in the nation every year... where do you think they are? The broken comment, just show how little you think of the organization.

Butters didn't break the thing?

 

[UFHealthGator]

"To this point" equates to 388 days on the job, picking up after the consecutive train wrecks that were the Chimp and McElstain coaching disasters. OF COURSE Mullen has been unable to follow Meyer's blueprint. Meyer himself couldn't follow that blueprint had he stepped into Mullen's shoes.

Why can Jimbo do it in the same exact number of days? Because Sumlin was a glowing success? What about Cristobal following in the footsteps of the legendary Taggart?

Other people are getting it done, history be damned. Why can't we?

 

[TheDouglas78]

Butters didn't break the thing?

And Mullen is the only one walking into a team with issues? Others are doing the same thing in the same amount of time.

 

[Malaka]

Malaka, here is your problem, you read only the positive, and pretend reality isn't there. You are making excuses that were fine for last years class, but not the bump class. You are having a hard time defining your position, because you know that. I have stated this before Mullen might be the second best Xs and Ox coach in the SEC, but that is just part of the job. You can only out scheme so much before talent is the deciding factor. Mullen's class last year was 17th, which was a good transition class. He has had a year for his staff to make relationships and recruit. We are in a multi-year rebuild, he needs to be playing for Championships in year 3, do you see that happening with a 17th ranked class?

Nah man if you think I only see positive I don't know what to tell you. What I do know is that we are eat better off than we have been despite the somewhat sluggish start to recruiting. I worry quite a bit about the defense going forward just don't see the point in griping constantly about things I cant change. I love an explosive defense but hated the repeated lapses we saw this year. When we officially lose polite and zuniga I will worry even more but again....I'm in wait and see mode.

Mullen haters cited his inability to beat ranked teams. So we beat LSU and miss st and with a depleted team and people still gripe. They griped about his recruiting at miss state. He will recruit better here and its already happening for 2020. I don't care about other schools. Well sort of. We're not beating Bama or georgia often on recruits. We just aren't set up for it. Uga used to beat Spurrier in recruiting too. How did that work out. But there has to be a balance and we are a little short on the recruiting end for now. I just see the change in energy, coaching, perception haopening and willing to give him a pass with all other things considered.

 

[T REX]

Nah man if you think I only see positive I don't know what to tell you. What I do know is that we are eat better off than we have been despite the somewhat sluggish start to recruiting. I worry quite a bit about the defense going forward just don't see the point in griping constantly about things I cant change. I love an explosive defense but hated the repeated lapses we saw this year. When we officially lose polite and zuniga I will worry even more but again....I'm in wait and see mode.

Mullen haters cited his inability to beat ranked teams. So we beat LSU and miss st and with a depleted team and people still gripe. They griped about his recruiting at miss state. He will recruit better here and its already happening for 2020. I don't care about other schools. Well sort of. We're not beating Bama or georgia often on recruits. We just aren't set up for it. Uga used to beat Spurrier in recruiting too. How did that work out. But there has to be a balance and we are a little short on the recruiting end for now. I just see the change in energy, coaching, perception haopening and willing to give him a pass with all other things considered.

He went 2-3 vs ranked teams. I guess that is ok but nothing to celebrate, right?