Mullinz' grade for the first year

Grade Mullinz first year

  • A+

    Votes: 47 19.7%
  • A

    Votes: 94 39.3%
  • A-

    Votes: 70 29.3%
  • B+

    Votes: 28 11.7%

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TheDouglas78

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It is an absolute miracle that Butters won 10 games at UF. I still can't believe it.

Look at our schedules those years... only 2 games where coaching mattered.. We out talented most of our opponents. That is why 4-7 is such a failure, we have more talent than all but 4 of our annual opponents. During Butters time Tennessee is a completely clusterfck due to Jones, and LSU was up/down to which team you were actually going to play against. UGA was rebuilding. There is little to no reason that 9/10 wins shouldn't have been expected in any season at UF.
 

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It is an absolute miracle that Butters won 10 games at UF. I still can't believe it.
He wasn't sure how he did it either.....
That 2015 defense was laden with NFL talent....most of the time we got a 7-0 or 10-0 lead and puckered our poop chutes while holding on for dear life the rest of the game.
 

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Even when we won it didn't feel like a win.
It was literally nauseating sitting there praying that the defense didn't break despite being on the field forever while we clung to a one score lead most of the time....The 3&outs on offense were as predictable as Nuss's playcalling...
 

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Some of us grew up with Hall, Spurrier, Meyer... the very point Spurrier came in to change the culture and expectations. But the same people who agreed with him are also some of the same people who lowered the bar on this season. We want to get back to the Gator Way, but without the Gator Expectations?
Lowered the bar? I don't believe anyone on this site lowered our expectations for this program. We all agree UF should be competing for the National Championship every year. As we all are well aware, recent HCs have put the program in the situation where expecting that to happen this year would have been ridiculously unrealistic. Giving CDM an "A" for this season, doesn't mean any us want this year to be the new Gator standard. It is a realistic assessment of what he has achieved thus far given the program he inherited. Personally as much as the UK loss sucked, it was (to me) forgivable and possibly even understandable. My only complaint against CDM for his first year was the Mizzou game for reasons we've discussed here ad naseaum. If ther's no further improvement next season, then I doubt any of us will give him an "A." But if winning a championship is the only measure of success then we need to change the scale to pass/fail, and this year only Saban or Dabo will pass.
 

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Lowered the bar? I don't believe anyone on this site lowered our expectations for this program. We all agree UF should be competing for the National Championship every year. As we all are well aware, recent HCs have put the program in the situation where expecting that to happen this year would have been ridiculously unrealistic. Giving CDM an "A" for this season, doesn't mean any us want this year to be the new Gator standard. It is a realistic assessment of what he has achieved thus far given the program he inherited. Personally as much as the UK loss sucked, it was (to me) forgivable and possibly even understandable. My only complaint against CDM for his first year was the Mizzou game for reasons we've discussed here ad naseaum. If ther's no further improvement next season, then I doubt any of us will give him an "A." But if winning a championship is the only measure of success then we need to change the scale to pass/fail, and this year only Saban or Dabo will pass.

So he inherited a program where he didn't have more talent than most the teams on the schedule? Did he inherited a schedule in his first year that wasn't beneficial? You make it sound like Florida hasn't had a 9 win season in a decade.

Looking at this season if you didn't see 9/10 games with this schedule in coaching as being expected, then the bar has been lowered. We still had better talent than 8 teams on our schedule (6-2), so a quality coach should win those and split games of teams with equal or better talent (3-1). He finishedwith a solid bowl win against a quality opponent (equal or better talent). But that is half of his job.

The second half is recruiting. Recruiting is still a question mark missing in few areas which could be corrected on NSD. Currently rated at 17 with some glaring holes in the class that needs to be filled on NSD.
 

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Could the person that picked up the rock that dougie was under put the rock back. That would be great. Thanks.
 

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Could the person that picked up the rock that dougie was under put the rock back. That would be great. Thanks.

neteng, So you believe he deserves an A if the recruiting class stays at 17? That would be a change from your earlier stance.
 

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Doug, you should take some time off to try and cool down from our disaster of a season. Take as much time as you need.
 

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So he inherited a program where he didn't have more talent than most the teams on the schedule? Did he inherited a schedule in his first year that wasn't beneficial? You make it sound like Florida hasn't had a 9 win season in a decade.

Looking at this season if you didn't see 9/10 games with this schedule in coaching as being expected, then the bar has been lowered. We still had better talent than 8 teams on our schedule (6-2), so a quality coach should win those and split games of teams with equal or better talent (3-1). He finishedwith a solid bowl win against a quality opponent (equal or better talent). But that is half of his job.

The second half is recruiting. Recruiting is still a question mark missing in few areas which could be corrected on NSD. Currently rated at 17 with some glaring holes in the class that needs to be filled on NSD.
Maybe so, but after 2017, I am satisfied with 2018. Are we were we should be yet? Of course not, but I feel much more optimistic about the direction of the program than I ever felt under Muschamp or Butters. Also, there's a lot more than two parts to this and while I agree with you on the talent, it was talent that previously underachieved; badly. The other elements (OL, S&C, team morale, etc.) have all been discussed a bunch. As for recruiting, as far as I am concerned the 2019 signing class is part of next year's grade. If we are to include the 2019 cycle, then the correct grade for him is incomplete. Reply as you will, but i suspect we are just gonna have to agree to disagree.
 

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Lowered the bar? I don't believe anyone on this site lowered our expectations for this program. We all agree UF should be competing for the National Championship every year. As we all are well aware, recent HCs have put the program in the situation where expecting that to happen this year would have been ridiculously unrealistic. Giving CDM an "A" for this season, doesn't mean any us want this year to be the new Gator standard. It is a realistic assessment of what he has achieved thus far given the program he inherited. Personally as much as the UK loss sucked, it was (to me) forgivable and possibly even understandable. My only complaint against CDM for his first year was the Mizzou game for reasons we've discussed here ad naseaum. If ther's no further improvement next season, then I doubt any of us will give him an "A." But if winning a championship is the only measure of success then we need to change the scale to pass/fail, and this year only Saban or Dabo will pass.
Nice post. Glad you're here, GbM.
 

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Maybe so, but after 2017, I am satisfied with 2018. Are we were we should be yet? Of course not, but I feel much more optimistic about the direction of the program than I ever felt under Muschamp or Butters. Also, there's a lot more than two parts to this and while I agree with you on the talent, it was talent that previously underachieved; badly. The other elements (OL, S&C, team morale, etc.) have all been discussed a bunch. As for recruiting, as far as I am concerned the 2019 signing class is part of next year's grade. If we are to include the 2019 cycle, then the correct grade for him is incomplete. Reply as you will, but i suspect we are just gonna have to agree to disagree.

2019 class was formed during 2018... where as the 2020 would be formed during 2019 season. That is why I posted early in the thread he currently is sitting on a solid B+ due to the season and ESD. If he completes the class (I believe 6 more spots) on NSD with areas of need addressed (already picked up a 4* WR if I remember correctly) then it can be an 'A-' or an 'A'.
 

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Doug, you should take some time off to try and cool down from our disaster of a season. Take as much time as you need.

No one said disaster, just not treating it like we won a National Title, or like when you drink a whole keg of Zima
 

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2019 class was formed during 2018... where as the 2020 would be formed during 2019 season. That is why I posted early in the thread he currently is sitting on a solid B+ due to the season and ESD. If he completes the class (I believe 6 more spots) on NSD with areas of need addressed (already picked up a 4* WR if I remember correctly) then it can be an 'A-' or an 'A'.
Then give him an incomplete. I was operating under the thread title which was "Grade Mullinz First year." For me, the first year is in the books. For you it ends on NSD. Reasonable people can disagree.
 

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Then give him an incomplete. I was operating under the thread title which was "Grade Mullinz First year." For me, the first year is in the books. For you it ends on NSD. Reasonable people can disagree.

:fistbump:, For me the football year starts a Spring Practice.
 

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No one said disaster, just not treating it like we won a National Title, or like when you drink a whole keg of Zima

Do you even read the responses to your posts? Nobody, I repeat nobody, Mr. ADHD, thinks we had a National Championship season.

Getting ahold of a 10 was always my goal in my carousing days, but I still celebrated getting laid by the 7’s and 8’s, even more so after a dry spell.

Get back on your Adderall.
 

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