The WNBA - why does it exist?

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I know that we will never be in a recession as long as people are showing up to WNBA games, but I think it is a hot lesbian hookup scene. If you check the parking lots at these games, most vehicles have kayak racks.....just saying
 

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I followed some of the teams when the league first formed. I was a big fan of the Toxic Shock, which was the Detroit franchise that later moved to Tulsa and was coached by Nolan Richardson. They moved the team to Dallas, earning Red Wings as their new name. The Milwaukee Froth were pretty fun to watch when they were in the league. They had a guard named Michelle Yeestie who had an itchy shooting finger and used to put up shots from everywhere. The Santa Fe Taco were a pretty good team but they folded, as were the Chicago Flow, who are also defunct after bleeding money and operating in the red for years. They can't seem to keep these teams afloat for long enough to build a fanbase, unfortunately.
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The league is an exercise in futility. Unless you are inventing something new you can't create a market for something out of thin air. Basketball already existed. If people wanted to pay big money to watch women do it, someone would have already offered it. It's pandering - plain and simple. It has to be subsidized by the NBA to even exist.

Someone posted a non sequitur (meaning here a formal fallacy not a punch line) that the women could "beat anyone on this forum." And? So could any NBA player or for that matter any 15 year-old all-state basketball player. Both of those category of people would incidentally also thrash the elite of the WBNA - as routinely happens when women's world cup teams warm up with U15 boys teams. They do this because the level of play of those boys exceeds the level of play they will see in the World Cup Finals.

Simply saying "they are better than you" in no way indicates they are worthy of having a league dedicated to their play and get paid for it - especially when that pay is largely a by-product of other people's superior achievement. Everyone in the Olympics is better than me at Curling but I couldn't keep a straight face if I were to suggest we needed a professional league with TV coverage for it.
 

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The league is an exercise in futility. Unless you are inventing something new you can't create a market for something out of thin air. Basketball already existed. If people wanted to pay big money to watch women do it, someone would have already offered it. It's pandering - plain and simple. It has to be subsidized by the NBA to even exist.

Someone posted a non sequitur (meaning here a formal fallacy not a punch line) that the women could "beat anyone on this forum." And? So could any NBA player or for that matter any 15 year-old all-state basketball player. Both of those category of people would incidentally also thrash the elite of the WBNA - as routinely happens when women's world cup teams warm up with U15 boys teams. They do this because the level of play of those boys exceeds the level of play they will see in the World Cup Finals.

Simply saying "they are better than you" in no way indicates they are worthy of having a league dedicated to their play and get paid for it - especially when that pay is largely a by-product of other people's superior achievement. Everyone in the Olympics is better than me at Curling but I couldn't keep a straight face if I were to suggest we needed a professional league with TV coverage for it.
There was a court behind my dorm in college that had some of the better pick up games on campus and occasionally some of the players on the women's team would come out and play with us. They were cool with the style of play and if you left them open they'd hit their shots, but otherwise, they just weren't strong enough, fast enough, or athletic enough. And these were D-1 players going up against a mix of former HS players and guys who never played organized ball after 8th grade. I'll happily watch women's tennis, gymnastics, skiing, softball, lacrosse, and even soccer, but not women's basketball (professional or college). Hell, even back when she was playing basketball, my daughter couldn't stand watching the WNBA.
 

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A few years ago a bunch of sharps in Vegas made some serious coin on the WNBA.

They realized the odds were made without much research because no one bet on it. After studying the teams they were way ahead of the oddsmakers and exploited the lines.

It must have been a huge profit to endure the agony of becoming a WNBA expert.
 

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A few years ago a bunch of sharps in Vegas made some serious coin on the WNBA.

They realized the odds were made without much research because no one bet on it. After studying the teams they were way ahead of the oddsmakers and exploited the lines.

It must have been a huge profit to endure the agony of becoming a WNBA expert.
Proving the point yet again, that people will do anything for money.
 

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In an episode of Married with Children, Al tried out for a sports related game show he was so good that he answered every question....but then there was a question about woman's golf and he didn't know the answer. One of the other contestant's was a butchy woman and she was all proud when she got the answer right....Al says, "Ladies golf is NOT a sport!"

I have a buddy's who's wife is a dietitian/nutritionist and she works part-time for the Mystics (the DC WNBA team). They pay her well, surprisingly.
 

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never been to a basketball game other than a gator mens game. and I'm probably going to get some **** for the following sentence.

speaking as the father of two girls, one of which is now gaining interests (lion king, the girl with long hair, driving her little electric car around), if the sport can get young kids (girls) interested in athletics (no matter how un-athletic and uninteresting the players are), let the NBA keep losing money on it. its not like you're their target audience ox.
THIS times 100. Sports are good for kids. I was talking to a fella the other day about all things BEYOND just skills you learn from being on a team. I loved seeing my little gals show the boys they could play in PE. At times my best athletes and even football players BB and softball were girls. One year my gals could beat my boys in soccer and I had some good boy athletes. My girls just played smarter and one actually played in a league. She convinced the other girls they could be good and BY GOD the got good.
 

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I give you a series of brilliant puns, punctuated by an incredibly clever and perfectly crafted "Father of the Blues" pun, and this is the best you can do? You need to come out of the closet already, Alvin. The strain of hiding your furtive, anonymous sexual encounters has left you with no sense of humor.
You're just being kind. I was so jealous of what you wrote I wanted to spit........You are missing your calling I swear. I have read comedic writers and you have a REAL talent.
 

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You take this joke WNBA and dare to speak seriously on the topic?
Alvin...........he werent talking seriously. His first post was a fckn masterpiece about women's womanly stuff. You stayed in the hills WAY to long. You may shoot straighter than most men but you aint got a clue about what Pasty was talking about......
 

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I have a buddy's who's wife is a dietitian/nutritionist and she works part-time for the Mystics (the DC WNBA team). They pay her well, surprisingly.
You mean THE NBA pays her well. That league cannot sustain itself.
 

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WNBA players make between $39,000 and $115,000 per season. They have the nerve to complain about how they're underpaid. Here's a great article about how they're OVERpaid:

WNBA Players Should Stop Complaining. If Anything, They're Overpaid

"Of course the real issue has nothing to do with sexism and everything to do with the fact that the WNBA simply isn’t very popular with Americans. For example, last month the WNBA averaged 250,000 viewers per game with a high of 378,000. Relative to the history of the league, this was an extraordinary success, up 39 percent from last year. By comparison, last year’s Professional Bowling League averaged 650,000 viewers for ESPN."

Pro Bowling has more than double the TV audience. :bwahaha:

"Of course TV ratings themselves are less important to this topic than dollars attached to their television contracts, and to the WNBA’s credit, ESPN doubled the value of their contract with the league to $25 million a year in 2016. This has led David Berri of Forbes to argue that because WNBA salaries make up less than a quarter of league revenue, as opposed to the NBA’s 50 percent split, the WNBA is clearly exploiting their players. Undermining Berri’s position, though, is the simple observation that revenue is not the same as profit – another measure by which the WNBA has consistently struggled. As The New York Times reported in 2016,only half of WNBA teams have managed to become profitable 20 years after the league’s founding.

A case can be made that WNBA players are actually overpaid relative to what consumers actually want. After all, the WNBA is subsidized by the NBA in a variety of ways, including by direct financial support, free publicity, and the fact that many WNBA franchises are owned by the city’s NBA owner. In fact, the WNBA’s big television contract was itself a byproduct of the channel reworking its agreement with their male counterpart."
 

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I have a buddy's who's wife is a dietitian/nutritionist and she works part-time for the Mystics (the DC WNBA team).

I'm not sure if you knew this or not, but they've since changed their name to the "Ovarian Cystics." Mystics around the world were protesting the implied association with this embarrassing abomination of a league.
 

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... so the team Dr. is a gynecologist ? And soon an infusion of transgenders will upgrade play and in-huddle butt-grabbing.

Overall : degraded by societal "natural selection" based on beauty = the WNBA allows God-awful looking women to rebound some.
 

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