California Schools May Be Banned from NCAA Titles If Bill Passes

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Mark Emmert: California Schools May Be Banned from NCAA Titles If Bill Passes


Mark Emmert: California Schools May Be Banned from NCAA Titles If Bill Passes

As California's State Assembly attempts to pass a bill that would allow collegiate athletes within the state to receive compensation for usage of their likeness, name or image, NCAA President Mark Emmert implied that schools within the state could be banned from NCAA competition if the bill becomes law.

Emmert wrote as much in a letter to two chairs of State Assembly committees last week, per Steve Berkowitz of USA Today:

“We recognize all of the efforts that have been undertaken to develop this bill in the context of complex issues related to the current collegiate model that have been the subject of litigation and much national debate. Nonetheless, when contrasted with current NCAA rules, as drafted the bill threatens to alter materially the principles of intercollegiate athletics and create local differences that would make it impossible to host fair national championships. As a result, it likely would have a negative impact on the exact student-athletes it intends to assist."

Republican Jeff Stone directly articulated the potential NCAA response to the bill's passage, noting it would be "in direct conflict with NCAA policies on compensation. … This bill could result in our students and campuses being unable to participate in intercollegiate sports. It seems like it's a bill that would be more appropriate to entertain at the federal level."

The bill already passed California's senate, with approval now needed from the Assembly's Arts, Entertainment, Sports, Tourism and Internet Media Committee. If the bill survives that hearing, it would then go to the Higher Education Committee, which would have to pass it by July 11 for it to go into effect this year, per Berkowitz.

Emmert is seeking a postponement in the committees, even though if passed, the resolution wouldn't go into effect until 2023.

College sports continues to rely on an amateurism model, in which its athletes are not directly paid or allowed to profit off endorsements, selling their autographs, etc.

The argument in favor of the amateurism model is that many student-athletes receive scholarships, room and board. The argument in favor of athletes either being paid or being permitted to make money off their own likeness is that college sports generates billions of dollars and the athletes at the center of such a booming business aren't receiving anything close to an adequate portion of that pie.

While there is some concern among California lawmakers about the NCAA's potential response, other lawmakers have been motivated by the opportunity to set a precedent for other states to follow.

"What we're doing is setting a marker," Democrat Bill Dodd said, per Berkowitz. "... Having this date set forward in 2023 allows the NCAA to do the job that they should be doing not just for California, but for all other 49 states in our great union."

It would set up an interesting staredown between California and the NCAA:

Of course, it's possible Emmert and the NCAA are simply making an effort to squash the resolution. It's just as possible that other states would join California, further forcing the NCAA's hand. The middle ground between amateurism and paying college athletes directly has long been considered allowing them to make money off their likeness.

The state of California is now pushing that potential compromise to the forefront of the conversation.
 

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Do students who make a scientific discover or invent something as part of the University get a cut of the profits?
 

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Question, making money off their likeness...are we talking nationally or locally? Or both? What's to stop Bama from having local businesses use a likeness then PAY said player? These are just legal loopholes to pay players. All or nothing. Don't piecemeal it. They are getting paid anyhow.
 

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Making money off of their likeness is going to happen since most D1 colleges can't afford to pay athletes. Still, that loophole will kill a lot of football and basketball programs. Only the big boys like UF, who have the most money, would be left standing. Essentially, it would turn college football into another pro league.
 

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Do students who make a scientific discover or invent something as part of the University get a cut of the profits?

Thank you for the apples to apples comparison. This whole argument is ridiculous. Want to know why they just don't start a semi-pro league with college aged players? Because no one would watch. It is only the tie to schools that gives the product the players produce any value. The scholarship, meals, housing, and free training is more than enough for the players considering that there is absolutely no market for their skills at this stage without the branding of the universities on it.
 

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What's to stop Bama from having local businesses use a likeness then PAY said player?

Because that would make the players professionals and therefore ineligible for NCAA play. That's why you never see college athletes doing commercials or endorsements even though there would be a big demand for a few elite athletes.
 

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Because no one would watch. It is only the tie to schools that gives the product the players produce any value.

Exactly. I don't watch the NFL. If this happened I'd probably give up on football altogether. It is quite possible an ulterior motive of these lawmakers is the destruction of football and the "toxic masculinity" associated with any sport more aggressive than dodgeball.
 

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Exactly. I don't watch the NFL. If this happened I'd probably give up on football altogether. It is quite possible an ulterior motive of these lawmakers is the destruction of football and the "toxic masculinity" associated with any sport more aggressive than dodgeball.

Good point...it is California.

I've often said, if you want to know what you should be doing go see what California is doing and do the opposite.
 

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I don't think he was a student at the time, could be wrong though.

I only know for the fact that I was in G'ville last summer and got to visit a new museum sponsored by Dr. Cade which detailed the history. Here's the wiki for reference

Gatorade was created in 1965 by a team of scientists at the University of Florida College of Medicine, including Robert Cade, Dana Shires, Harry James Free, and Alejandro de Quesada.[7] Following a request from Florida Gators football head coach Ray Graves, Gatorade was created to help athletes by acting as a replacement for body fluids lost during physical exertion.
 

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Didn't Dr. Cade use the UF laboratories, UF analyzing equipment, UF salaried time, UF student test-subjects, etc.
Heck, they named the stuff Gatorade. Cade's whole career in nephrology, in exercise physiology existed due to his UF employment = UF paid him ahead of time for his discoveries and conclusions.??
 

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I only know for the fact that I was in G'ville last summer and got to visit a new museum sponsored by Dr. Cade which detailed the history. Here's the wiki for reference

TLB this doesn't address the issue? Dr. Cade who got his Bachelors and Medical Degrees at Texas... wasn't a student at UF when the discovery was made he was a professor. So how exactly does this address the topic at hand? Apparently you went to the museum but learned less about Dr Cade and Gatorade in how it pertains to the question than GatorJ learns about sailing when he is blowing sailors on the pier.
 

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Making money off of their likeness is going to happen since most D1 colleges can't afford to pay athletes. Still, that loophole will kill a lot of football and basketball programs. Only the big boys like UF, who have the most money, would be left standing. Essentially, it would turn college football into another pro league.
Unfortunately, having the resources to promote the FB program and being willing to expend them are two entirely different things - particularly at UF.
 

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