Recruiting 2020 Recruiting Thread: Gervon Dexter gets 5th Star on Rivals

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We're still sitting with 1 top 100 recruit (Gervon Dexter #98). I just went through all the undecided top 100. Doesn't look good. Based on Rivals forecast, we're only in the mix for one recruit, EJ Smith #95. They show its a three way battle between us, Stanford and A&M. Lots of predictions for Georgia, LSU, OSU, Texas, Bama, etc. for the rest of the undecideds. Kind of sad.
 

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We're still sitting with 1 top 100 recruit (Gervon Dexter #98). I just went through all the undecided top 100. Doesn't look good. Based on Rivals forecast, we're only in the mix for one recruit, EJ Smith #95. They show its a three way battle between us, Stanford and A&M. Lots of predictions for Georgia, LSU, OSU, Texas, Bama, etc. for the rest of the undecideds. Kind of sad.
We knew what we got w Mullinz.

Why be surprised?
 

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Are you really sad? We are recruiting better now than with mcelwain, yet Mullen still won 10 games with a roster mostly handpicked by mcelwain. We know that progress has started in the "arms race" so that will only help future. Things are finally moving in the right direction again.
No no, the proper response is Mullinz sucks, recruiting sucks, the program sucks, facilities won’t get built until the year 2100. Just trying to help out
 

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Are you really sad? We are recruiting better now than with mcelwain, yet Mullen still won 10 games with a roster mostly handpicked by mcelwain. We know that progress has started in the "arms race" so that will only help future. Things are finally moving in the right direction again.
:lmao2: we are recruiting ever so slightly better than Butters and the staff is clearly the second worst recruiters weve ever had, and continuing to trend down. You brag about a guy who steals players from Kentucky or Indiana being better than a guy who stole players from FAU. That isn't much of a compliment.

Butters and Chimp had "10 win seasons" too (such a useless term given today's schedules). We aren't Kentucky or South Carolina. Being a third tier SEC team means nothing here.
 
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Are you really sad? We are recruiting better now than with mcelwain, yet Mullen still won 10 games with a roster mostly handpicked by mcelwain. We know that progress has started in the "arms race" so that will only help future. Things are finally moving in the right direction again.
Mac was a colosal disaster and in no way is the measuring stick. I'm just pointing out the facts. From 2006 - 2014 we were a fixture in the top 100. We had two classes with 11 top 100 recruits and never had less than 5. We landed the #1 recruit twice and routinely had 3 of the top 20. Mac went 2, 4 and 1. Mullen had 5 last year which is respectable, but on the low end of where we should be. We're now sitting with 1 and what seems to be slim prospects for even getting to Mac level. So yeah, I'd say that's sad.
 

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Mac was a colosal disaster and in no way is the measuring stick. I'm just pointing out the facts. From 2006 - 2014 .
1990-2014.. . we actually had those various early magazines rating us top classes back to the 80s too though of course probation hurt the numbers. We dominated the All-State teams. Had state Mr Football on campus as walk ons or as 4th string quarterbacks.

I know Rivals didnt exist but let's not pretend elite recruiting began with Urban Meyer.

I guess some of our friends here think we should be on a leisurely second decade rebuild. They are obviously more than happy with the glacial pace and general lack of concern from our athletic department.
 

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1990-2014.. . we actually had those various early magazines rating us top classes back to the 80s too though of course probation hurt the numbers. We dominated the All-State teams. Had state Mr Football on campus as walk ons or as 4th string quarterbacks.

I know Rivals didnt exist but let's not pretend elite recruiting began with Urban Meyer.

I guess some of our friends here think we should be on a leisurely second decade rebuild. They are obviously more than happy with the glacial pace and general lack of concern from our athletic department.
Well put. Seems there's a bit of revisionist history going on that Spurrier won with lesser talent. Couldn't be further from the truth. Spurrier's team were loaded with top talent.
 

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Well put. Seems there's a bit of revisionist history going on that Spurrier won with lesser talent. Couldn't be further from the truth. Spurrier's team were loaded with top talent.
Sos often missed on the #1 player type talent to Booby or Donnan/Ray Goof but he still landed mostly top3-5 classes. A few of the lower rated classes were very small classes. He had at least 3 consensus #1 classes.

Those old recruitimg magazines arent on the internet though so people seem o just make up whatever thy like
 
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Sos often missed on the #1 player type talent to Booby or Donnan/Ray Goof but he still landed mostly top3-5 classes. A few of the lower rated classes were very small classes. He had at least 3 consensus #1 classes.

Those old recruitimg magazines arent on the internet though so people seem o just make up whatever thy like

From the 247 boards -- so who knows the accuracy -- looks good, though:

#1 overall class in 1992 (Wallace,, #5 Lemming)
#1 overall class in 2000 (Wallace & Lemming)
#2 overall class in 1995 (Lemming, #6 Wallace)
#3 overall class in 1997 (Wallace & Lemming)
#5 overall class in 1996 (Lemming, not in Wallace top-10)
#7 overall class in 1998 (Wallace, #8 Lemming)
#7 overall class in 1999 (Wallace, not in Lemming top-10)
#8 overall class in 1993 (Wallace, #9 Lemming)

UF was in neither service's top-10 in 1994 or 2001. Importantly, Spurrier never went 3 years without a class that ranked in the national top-5 of at least one of these 2 services. That's not quite what we see from Saban or Kirby Smart, but in my opinion, it's still elite.

UF's SEC class rankings for the 1992-2001 period are as follows:

1992 - #1 (Wallace & Lemming)
1993 - #3 (Wallace & Lemming)
1994 - unknown, not in national top-10
1995 - #1 (Wallace, #2 Lemming)
1996 - #2 (Lemming, not in Wallce national top-10)
1997 - #1 (Wallace, #2 Lemming)
1998 - #1 (Lemming, #3 Wallace)
1999 - #2 (Wallace, not in Lemming national top-10)
2000 - #1 (Wallace & Lemming)
2001 - unknown, not in national top-10)

So, Spurrier's classes were in the SEC's top-3 in 8 of the 10 classes for which we have data, including 5 which ranked #1 in one of the 2 services. I'd say that speaks for itself.

Spurrier's Recruiting from 1992-2001
 

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:lmao2: we are recruiting ever so slightly better than Butters and the staff is clearly the second worst recruiters weve ever had, and continuing to trend down. You brag about a guy who steals players from Kentucky or Indiana being better than a guy who stole players from FAU. That isn't much of a compliment.

Butters and Chimp had "10 win seasons" too (such a useless term given today's schedules). We aren't Kentucky or South Carolina. Being a third tier SEC team means nothing here.
So you agree, we are recruiting better than mcelwain. That is an improvement, which is a step in the right direction. I agree we had the 2nd worst recruiting staff, but we have had plenty of staff turnover and also appear to be hiring more analysts. Another step in the right direction.

I think if you understood what bragging was you would realize I'm not doing that. I'm simply agreeing with you, things are better now than they were with mcelwain, and things are continuing to improve.

What are the SEC tiers?
 

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Mac was a colosal disaster and in no way is the measuring stick. I'm just pointing out the facts. From 2006 - 2014 we were a fixture in the top 100.
Who cares about anything after 2008? That's when we became 3rd tier SEC, right?

Mac is the measuring stick for current trends, even though he was a colossal disaster. And being a colossal disaster, it's not easy to immediately jump back into elite status, especially for a guy who isnt a used car salesman . We are trending up, which is not sad to me.
 

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Mac is in no way the measuring stick at UF. Mullen's job is to win championships. If he's not a closer, he needs to hire some. Seems he's starting to recognize that. Hope its not too late for him as I've actually been pleasantly surprised with his coaching ability. Won't do him any good if he keeps filling the team with high 3, low 4 star players.
 

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Zook and Chimp were better than Butterteeth too.
 
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