Bits & Pieces: Florida vs. Miami

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Donk prolly wanted Chip Kelly in the Orange and Blue.... cuz at least he can recruit. Plus, he's famous. Face it, we're Dan Mullen's Gators. Come on aboard for the big win (eventually establishing a legacy.) Heck, I hear Urban is coming back to help him return us to glory. Gonna give him all his secret recipes and jedi mind tricks for luring all 5*'s and Donky-worthy players, coaches and facilities. Yippie! B!tches.
He was all in on Larry Fedora. Which is hilarious because he bags on Mullen’s CONFERENCE record but had no issue with Fedora’s OVERALL record of 45-43.
 

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It would be hard for me to believe that FF audibles to that play or that he would be given the OK to do so. That leaves the decision squarely in the hands of the OC and HC. If we were down 4 with 4 minutes to play I could see us passing the ball, but we had just gotten the ball back. Don't give FF a chance to F it up. Run the damn ball and at worst give them the ball with a long field with 2 minutes or less. Again, beyond dumb IMO. Maybe Mullen knew our D was going to stain their shorts in crunch time and was trying to avoid it? Nah.

Upon further review it was definitely a fake screen designed to take a shot at the safety on that side who they had probably seen a couple of times coming down hill on the screens. This was definitely called in from the sideline. As an aggressive guy I have a hard time faulting him for going for the knock out, even if Franks is as Franks does. With the defense giving their best interpretation of contestants in a greased pig contest at numerous times throughout the night I can see him thinking one score wasn't enough.

The truly nuts thing about that play was that he threw the ball at one of the two guys in that play clearly designed to be near defenders due to their fake blocks. I think he realized this in mid delivery which is why the ball kind of just gently fluttered to the waiting defender.

EDIT - per comments from Mullen he was trying to throw it away (? it was there) and got hit. Consider me skeptical.
 
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Ugly game. I'm not as upset as most with the call on the int. If that play works, the game is over. We were never going to get a first down running the ball. Remember, Mullen is around Franks every day and I'm sure he didn't expect him to wet the bed like that.

I'm so much more dismayed by our secondary and the lack of tackling. They seem to have the mindset all they have to do is defend passes. On just about every Cane big play there were at least missed tackles that would have eliminated the big gain.

I saw poster ask if Stiner even played. Yes he did, but missed virtually every opportunity to help his w fellow defenders. Bottom line, I'm 60 yrs old, overweight and in need of a knee replacement. Odds are pretty much even that Stiner or Taylor could tackle me one on one.
 

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I know you know C2 , I was just trying to have a chuckle. You're one of the few who can at least understand some of my musings, even if you don;t agree. But in situations like that, why is a strategy even considered? some things are really easy in my eye, kind of like defending a 4th down and 4000 :deadhorse::deadhorse:
I'm in agreement. Just processing how the game has gone to that point, I just can't rationalize in my mind how you can make that call at that juncture.

As I understood CDM post game, he said specifically that he called the play, and, moreover, he specifically wanted to put the game in Franks' hands. ????????
I'm laughing to myself thinking that the play call in question was made right after Mullen told his GA "hold my beer!" I can't be certain of this, but somewhat understanding the mindset, ego, etc., I can't dismiss Law's @Swamp Donkey musing that another score might have deflected the jaundiced eyes that saw the sh!t show that was much of the game. Personally, I think you just have to take the lumps that come with such a showing and then go to work to correct the deficiencies as quickly and thoroughly as possible. I know Mullen is embarrassed and he should be. A lot of coaches have games like this, but the better ones make sure they don't come in multiples. Like all, I'm glad we won and I know we have a youth movement to contend with in several positions, but the piss poor techniques and fundamentals along with some effort questions should not have been such a dominant feature in my opinion.
 

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The whole team (except the D front) had their heads up their azzes most of the night. Malik had the fumble recovered, then tried to pick it up and run with it even though he was already on his knees, and slung the ball up in the air. Same play a Gator recovered the ball, his body on the ground, and the refs swallowed their whistles until a scUM player wrestled the ball away from him - should have been a dead ball at that point. The O-line proved to be a disappointment in either run block (none) or pass pro (little) but they were facing a good cane D front. Our DBs - 4th and Ft. Lauderdale and we commit a peewee-level PI to hand the game back to scUM. Franks.... Franks.... "I do this!" Yeah Feleipe we're aware of what you do. Glad that we somehow won and now have 2 or 3 weeks to figure out how to play football. Was a bit peeved that Mullin seemed overjoyed with the win and shrugged off the obvious sloppy play of the team he's in charge of coaching.
 

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Ugly game. I'm not as upset as most with the call on the int. If that play works, the game is over. We were never going to get a first down running the ball. Remember, Mullen is around Franks every day and I'm sure he didn't expect him to wet the bed like that.

At least part of that was on the right side of the line. After watching it again yesterday the play over on that side...not good.
 

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we were about halfway through the fourth quarter and we had two wide receiver catches, a PI and that incompletion.

that's Neanderthal play-calling that should make mushchump proud.

Make that Neanderstall play-calling, please.
UM players were strong and they hit solidly. Did we suffer any injuries?

IDK whether any WR was breaking clear on that last INT, but it looked like the straightway pass rusher hit FF's arm stopping his fully controlled throw, blocked his followthrew.??

I'm clinging to the idea that UM had a very good game, while we had one of our clumsiest games. Expect CM and the boys to be much better when next game comes calling.
 

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there's a pretty strong argument to be made that McElwain is smarter than Mullins.

he wanted a quick late score to hide his ineptitude.
No, no, no Donk. Mac wanted us to NOT score late in the game. He was pissed on a long run by Perine I think. Cant remember who that was against. I drank heavily during his tenure. What an idiot. So glad he is gone.

If you guys watch the tape, the INT play was wide open for 6. However our OL couldn't protect. Open or not, run the freaking ball! Frank's hasn't earned the trust to throw it late in the 4th w a 4 point lead. Go Gators!
 

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I can kind of understand the call that gave the ball back to scUM with the last INT, but Mullen overestimated Franks' ability to handle the situation when our O-line can't give him more than 1.5 seconds. Freaky call that could have shocked Miami and sealed the win, yes. But you're in a position to seal the win by just running and making a 1st down or two. A super-ballsy call that had a great chance of backfiring, and it did. That INT could have cost us the game. Mullen should take the D-line out for the best steaks in Gainesville for bailing him out.​
 

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Nah. Miami was the beneficiary of more luck than us. We gifted them two fumbles. We knocked the ball out multiple times and didn’t recover once. Their last drive was fueled by PI that hadn’t been called all game (not disputing the calls, just saying they let physical play happen most of the game until the 4th for some reason).


7 total fumbles in the game (both teams combined) and UM recovered every one of them
 

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The good thing is that fumble recovery tends to revert to the mean. Lady Luck should be on our side for a while :lol:

I hope that's the case and not poor awareness/aggressiveness.


I thought our secondary was horrible overall and definitely a beneficiary of the great play by the Dline. Tackling was piss poor across the board. The corners of course are stellar at man to man coverage but horrible at open field tackling. The safeties did absolutely nothing above a D+ grade for the game.

One thing that was obvious to me was the overall talent discrepancy between the teams. From there the biggest difference was who wanted it more....and UM was way ahead of us in the emotion department. Outside of our Dline and a portion of the guys on our sideline, I thought our team was flat.
 

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EDIT - per comments from Mullen he was trying to throw it away (? it was there) and got hit. Consider me skeptical.

He is hit by Delance being pushed into him "mid delivery" as you put it. Watch both the skycam video and the regular video. Trust me, I re-watched the pick numerous times to look at Perine after some guy talked about how "touchdown" wide open Perine was...except when the ball is released, as Delance is backing into Franks, Perine is covered by Quarterman. Now Franks should take the sack to run the clock, but then this board would be crying he didn't throw it away.

I can kind of understand the call that gave the ball back to scUM with the last INT, but Mullen overestimated Franks' ability to handle the situation when our O-line can't give him more than 1.5 seconds. Freaky call that could have shocked Miami and sealed the win, yes. But you're in a position to seal the win by just running and making a 1st down or two. A super-ballsy call that had a great chance of backfiring, and it did. That INT could have cost us the game. Mullen should take the D-line out for the best steaks in Gainesville for bailing him out.​

See and watch tape mentioned above. It's a bad call, but I want to see a QB who is accurate when having 500+ pounds of lineman hitting him (tackle and the DE pushing him)

No, no, no Donk. Mac wanted us to NOT score late in the game. He was pissed on a long run by Perine I think. Cant remember who that was against. I drank heavily during his tenure. What an idiot. So glad he is gone.

Davis and it was Vandy in the game Cardozo said should be the measuring stick for Florida offenses.


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See Vid above, you can see on pick 2 (about 8:45 in the vid) as he's releasing Delance hits him both kicking Franks' leg and then up high before above.
 

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Here's a nice little breakdown of some good and bad from Franks,



I've seen some of this, its good. However, it breaks the narrative I keep seeing that Franks had all the time in the world with a clean pocket, every drop back, and he made all the wrong decisions because we had a guy 50 yards behind the defense every play.
 

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