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So you’re saying his combined QB rating is lower than all of the single game ratings?

Leave the football and math to smart people, sport.
Duh, go back and read my post. I clearly stated ranked opponents. His combined number for the season, 67.9, left him 43rd in the nation.
 

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Duh, go back and read my post. I clearly stated ranked opponents. His combined number for the season, 67.9, left him 43rd in the nation.
No, YOU go back and read MY post. I gave you his exact QBR numbers for all games against ranked opponents last year, and all of them were higher than the “combined” number you conjured out of thin air and horsesh*t.
 

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Besides the FCS fluff here is another stat that stood out with Franks last season. These are his passing numbers against the 6 teams we played with the highest ranked defenses.

53% comp, 974 yds (162 per game), 5 TDs, 4 INTs

Mullen basically just got him to stop turning the ball over like in 2017.
 

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This may be controversial, but Limical Perine isn't a starting caliber running back. I like the guy. And he was perfectly suited for his role last season. But he doesn't run hard enough to be an every down back. His running style has led to a lot of our running issues, imo.
 

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So wtf is it. Do we hate our starting QB because he is terrible or do we support him as learns to play the position and continues to lead us to wins..............Its hard to keep up with you guys. I must be prehistoric school (as opposed to old) We cheered for the team, the QB, the cheerleaders, the coaches and anything else that paraded around in orange and blue. All this hate from society has spilled over into one of my favorite diversions (slowly becoming a perversion).......... FOR ...F-L-O-R-I-D-A
Our feelings for him are about as inconsistent as his play generally is. Sometimes, he gives you something to cheer for (UT TD). Sometimes, he gives you something to shake your head about (2nd pick in the Miami game). Sometimes, he gives you something really embarrassing (shushing his own fans, taunting another teams fans). Some fans, like yourself and marine, have no issue with the latter two. Some fans, like ox and law, dwell on the latter two and dismiss the former. Some fans, like me, see his potential but get frustrated that he self sabotages.
 

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This may be controversial, but Limical Perine isn't a starting caliber running back. I like the guy. And he was perfectly suited for his role last season. But he doesn't run hard enough to be an every down back. His running style has led to a lot of our running issues, imo.

I wouldn't go that far but I thought with the O line taking a step back his numbers per carry would drop this season. I never thought he was some real good NFL talent like some people however.
 

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This may be controversial, but Limical Perine isn't a starting caliber running back. I like the guy. And he was perfectly suited for his role last season. But he doesn't run hard enough to be an every down back. His running style has led to a lot of our running issues, imo.

Our run blocking sucks blue-veined donkey schlongs.
 

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Besides the FCS fluff here is another stat that stood out with Franks last season. These are his passing numbers against the 6 teams we played with the highest ranked defenses.

53% comp, 974 yds (162 per game), 5 TDs, 4 INTs

Mullen basically just got him to stop turning the ball over like in 2017.
I’d be a lot more concerned if he was playing poorly against bad defenses.
 

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Ranked opponents last year (post season rankings CFB):

UK 108.1 & 65.4
MSU 123.9 & 78.8
LSU 99.3 & 68.7
UGA 110.1 & 73.1
Mizzo 73.0 & 30.6
UM 134.1 & 88.8

Average 108.08 & 67.57
 

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I’d be a lot more concerned if he was playing poorly against bad defenses.

One way of looking at it but that won't cut it when you need decent QB play to actually win the game. I think he had 19 TDs and only 2 picks against the schools for the blind etc.
 

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Ranked opponents last year (post season rankings CFB):

UK 108.1 & 65.4
MSU 123.9 & 78.8
LSU 99.3 & 68.7
UGA 110.1 & 73.1
Mizzo 73.0 & 30.6
UM 134.1 & 88.8

Average 108.08 & 67.57
You can’t really average them since each game has a different number of attempts and what not. The ESPN rating also takes into account rushing stats and strength of opponent. Either way, there’s 0.0 chance his QBR against ranked teams was in the 50s.
 

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Yes, I understand that. I already used those numbers to illustrate my point to numbnuts earlier. The point is, you can’t just take the raw ratings numbers from each game and average them since each game is different. You have to take his combined numbers from those games and plug them into the formula. I don’t think there’s anywhere you can calculate QBR online, but there are a number of sites that calculate regular QB rating for you.
 

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Yes, I understand that. I already used those numbers to illustrate my point to numbnuts earlier. The point is, you can’t just take the raw ratings numbers from each game and average them since each game is different. You have to take his combined numbers from those games and plug them into the formula. I don’t think there’s anywhere you can calculate QBR online, but there are a number of sites that calculate regular QB rating for you.

I would doubt it because QBR is depended on in game situations, so it's 1-100 depends on the situations you face in that particular game. 100 is you made the right decision in every situation, whether it's the long vs short pass, run or throw the ball away, etc... Kind of hard to combine all those factors over the course over multiple games due to the EPA stat and adjustments due to Defense faced etc.

Either way I agree, the 50s stuff isn't backed by anything if you take just 2018 into account.
 

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This thread morphed into a lot of things besides my only points.

(1) Offensively we were far from sluggish. We scored early, often and very quickly.

(2) Franks did not play a bad game. In fact he played a good game.

The facts undeniably support these.

Playing bad against Kentucky or anyone else will not alter these facts.

I continually say he is not a great QB but he is our QB. I think DM is doing a good job bringing him along. Far better than he was earlier in his career. If he gets replaced watch how enthusiastically I embrace the new QB.
 

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Nobody is gonna he happy until Mullen is fired and FF is run out of town on a rail...I’m cautiously optimistic...but I’m harboring some reservations about our run game and the ability for FF to progress through his reads...but we knew what we had at the beginning of the season...I don’t get the panic or the need to trash the whole program...we’re a few seasons away from really competing and we all knew this...wtf is everyone overreacting for?

Hold on there, Bucky!! I am part of the implied population whose happiness depends on the immediate departure Mullen and Franks! It does not and I agree, as you seem to, with the OP on the ludicrous nature of these "arguments". Just not a big fan of hyperbole especially when it makes me part of an equation that severely insults my intelligence!

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Ranked opponents last year (post season rankings CFB):

UK 108.1 & 65.4
MSU 123.9 & 78.8
LSU 99.3 & 68.7
UGA 110.1 & 73.1
Mizzo 73.0 & 30.6
UM 134.1 & 88.8

Average 108.08 & 67.57
Interesting what a difference one game makes when it's a bit of an outlier. Throw out the Mizzou game and his avg. is 115.1 & 74.96. Probably the truth is throw Mizzou and Meatchicken out and average the four remaining.
 

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