Bits & Pieces: Florida vs. Louisiana State

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I remember when Butters won the east twice and won "10 games" twice and I was told we were underachieving and building something.

Or when Chimp won 11 games and we were the next Trailerbammer.

Seems like yesterday.
I also remember when 3 and out was the go-to game plan for those two yahoos.
 

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I also remember when 3 and out was the go-to game plan for those two yahoos.


Chump did that yesterday and it should've cost him the game. When USC got the ball with maybe 5ish minutes left and a 7 point lead at around the 30 or so, they ran some nice play calls and were moving down the field and could've iced the game with a FG, instead once they crossed midfield, Chump figured the offense did it's job by flipping the field and ran the ball into the middle of the line 3 straight times and punted....putting UGA at the 4.

of course UGA goes right down the field and tied the game.....but classic Chump seeming to deliberately put his defense in the game securing situation instead of trying to win the game with his offense when he had the chance.

he did that crap while with us all the time.....very frustrating
 

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Our O-line and D-line really is the story. Say what you want about Mullen's playcalling but after 50 plus minutes of game time and the other team figures out you can't run the ball, you start getting predictable. Those playcalls at the end just seem to me that Mullen is trying to manufacture some offense by being as unpredictable as possible. Why? Because he has zero confidence that we can run the ball and gain a yard or two. And yet we put up 450 yards of offense and only turned the ball over once. On defense, you can't moan all year long about our lack of talent at critical positions, and then lose the 2 best dudes we actually have on defense, and then blame the crappy defensive performance on the scheme.
 

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I have to say that the refs missed a couple of pass interference calls that made a huge difference. Also on that interception Cleveland was held blatantly after he got behind the defender and the ref did not throw a flag, even though it was right in front of him

the sec hates us....always has, always will

To be fair it was easy to miss....
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And my only gripe about the refs would be the timing of their calls and no calls. They missed a lot on both ends including Jones TD pass but they call holding on stone that changed the game, and then nothing on the Cleveland play. The still frame doesn't even do it justice as Cleveland was literally dragging the db
 

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To be fair it was easy to miss....
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While that’s definitely a hold, Trask wasn’t even looking at him. In fact, just further proves that Trask was hell bent on scoring instead making the smart play. He throws to to Cleveland, it’s a first down, maybe touchdown, or a penalty. He was just locked onto his WR and LSU knew it.
 

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Zambo said: "On defense, you can't moan all year long about our lack of talent at critical positions, and then lose the 2 best dudes we actually have on defense, and then blame the crappy defensive performance on the scheme."

I say: Some Gator Fan's do.......
 

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"Thibodaux, Fontaineaux, the place is buzzin'..."

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"...Dress in style and go hog wild, me oh my oh.
Son of a gun, we'll have big fun on the bayou."

Only it didn't quite work out like that. This night, we learned more about our Gators, some of it reinforcement of what we already knew (but were maybe secretly hoping that it wouldn't hurt us). We know that we're a scrappy bunch to go along with talented, in some places, but not across the board. We know that we have a good defense, but not a great one despite, their high national statistical ranking. We knew the Tigers were a really good offensive team. Turns out, they were better than good...and so was Joe Burrow. We believe in the emergence of Kyle Trask and as good as he's been, he's still a mortal in the SEC football league. We know that Mullen is a ball coach, but he's not infallible. I'm sure there's more, but the image in my mind is that we fought hard, gave a great effort, overcame some issues in-game, but in the end we didn't get the job done.

If you're an all-or-nothing person, then the season could be finished for you. That's the trouble when a team possibly overachieves and gets our hopes up. The odds are probably against us for making the SECCG against either these Tigers or Bama. And although UGA left the door ajar, we all know just how treacherous our remaining schedule could be. But the beauty of the game, especially if you aren't 100% all-or-nothing, is that there is still a lot to play for and it either gets better each week or we readjust. As for me...yeah, I'm a little dejected about now, but I'm in it for the long haul and I don't mind walking uphill a little longer. I remember having these feelings a few times when SOS was in charge and we lost a conference game and fell behind only to find our way to the top at the end. Mullen ain't SOS and the conference has changed, but we've still got a chance at our SEC goals. I'm grateful for that. On to the particulars...

*One is greater than five. We saw that tonight when our D had trouble slowing down their O. I think it's no stretch to say that Coach O's hiring of his new OC from the Saints was a good stroke for them. They had a good plan against our D, killed us with the intermediate crosses, and exploited our somewhat depleted DL and shaky LBs with the run. 500+ left some cuts and bruises.

*Trask was pretty good for most of the game. He was cool in the pocket, very accurate with the majority of his throws, and played relatively mistake free, but his biggest one, the late pick in the end zone, left us in a hole we couldn't climb out of. Burrow, on the other hand, was dynamic. 21 of 24 passing, no turnovers and not sacked was impressive. How many times did he escape the pocket for a first down or positive gain? He may be cocky and weird to boot, but he's deserving of the praise he's getting.

*We saw two pretty good groups of DBs tonight. LSU has some talent. We do, too, but they could have used some help from a better pass rush scheme perhaps. We got lost in coverage some and we missed far too many tackles once again. Burrow is too accurate and their plan of attack was too well constructed for us to have success with the amount of mistakes made. Also, as the nation's leader in INTs, we had none tonight. We were not DBU this evening. Nowhere close.

*We rushed for 150+ and threw for almost 300, but our OL got manhandled most of the night. LT and C had terrible nights, especially with pass rush. We missed several blocks (e.g. the last time Trask was sacked, Forsythe looked inside to the tackle that was being blocked by our LG and whiffed on their DE; there still seems to be confusion on assignments). Coach O in his presser praised his DL and rightfully so. Quite often, our five couldn't block their four. We weren't able to escape the deficiencies of this group (that have not gone away) against a better team. It would be miraculous for us to be a championship team as weak as we are on the offensive line of scrimmage.

*Unfortunately, we weren't much better on the DL (or with the LBs). No Greenard was a huge blow and a limited and injured yet again Zuniga did not help matters. Moon was lost quite often and I can't recall enough significant plays by the LBs in general. Giving up nearly 250 on the ground and recording no sacks will not allow you to win very often. No turnovers for us was a big deficit.

*As far as game plans go, I thought Mullen's was pretty good up until the final two or three plays. Might not have made a difference, but the fake reverse pass and the final option play were not good. Made me feel like he was out of bullets at that point, so to speak ;). As for Grantham, I know why we didn't blitz any more than we did (wanted to have safety help on their speedy receivers; afraid that they'd get behind us and Burrow was good enough to find them), but after getting little to no pressure from our hobbled front, I'd like to have seen him take some chances. Burrow carved us up with all the time he had to survey the field and go through his progressions. He also used his eyes very well. I wish we could have adjusted as well as they did at the half, but I suppose our personnel was a limiting factor.

*More kudos to our receivers and our TE just gets better and better. He's a match up problem against LBs with his speed and against DBs with his size. Hats off to LSU's DC. He took him out of the equation for most of the second half.

*EJ looked pretty good in his role this evening. Really was quite elusive running the ball and made a couple of nice throws, though his TD pass wan't exactly a thing of beauty. If we were going to run it there at the end, I'd rather have seen him in the game. Anyhow, I feel like he won't do anything but get better and better.

*Perine ran hard. My respect for him grows. He might have really had a good night if there were some more holes to run through. He made a couple of nice catches, too.

*I haven't seen the injury list, but I'm guessing we need to heal up quite a bit before next week.

After knocking off the Dawgs, Muschamp and the 'Cocks will be crowing in anticipation of our visit next week to Williams-Brice. I'm sure they'll be nursing some injuries like us (might be down to their #3 QB), but they've got to be riding the swell of upsetting the once east-leading Mutts in Athens. Muschamp probably had his greatest coaching moment this afternoon against his alma mater and close friend, but you know he'd like nothing better to stick it to us. If there's any truth to the old adage "it's not whether you get knocked down, but whether you get back up," and if we really believe that, then next Saturday should be a big one. But aren't they all at this point?

Go Gators!
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Thanks C2. LSU is just better than us. I feel Mullen definitely struggled at times playcalling in certain down and distances. Disappointing loss. Trask played damn well but we had to play a perfect game and that's real hard to do. Ensminger abused Grantham all game. I refuse to blame injuries. Get better depth then. Recruit better. This is big time football. If you are ONE deep at any position that's on the coaches.
 

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Since I can count Trask's number of starts in his lifetime on one hand, he is going to make some mistakes due to inexperience. There were a couple of those plays last night, but overall, he performed admirably in one of the toughest places to play in all of football. A running game is needed to help a QB out, but the O-line was getting pushed back even when double teaming guys. I think that affected the playcalling for good and for bad. In some ways, Mullen knows that the run game is struggling, so he's passing more, but he's still committed to making the run game work because that's what he knows. Hopefully this loss we'll get some of the stubbornness out of him.
 

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Since I can count Trask's number of starts in his lifetime on one hand, he is going to make some mistakes due to inexperience. There were a couple of those plays last night, but overall, he performed admirably in one of the toughest places to play in all of football. A running game is needed to help a QB out, but the O-line was getting pushed back even when double teaming guys. I think that affected the playcalling for good and for bad. In some ways, Mullen knows that the run game is struggling, so he's passing more, but he's still committed to making the run game work because that's what he knows. Hopefully this loss we'll get some of the stubbornness out of him.
Thinking back to last year, can you imagine this team with Trask as QB in 2018? We actually had a running game. Last season likely turns out better and we might’ve been set up better this year.
 

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Thinking back to last year, can you imagine this team with Trask as QB in 2018? We actually had a running game. Last season likely turns out better and we might’ve been set up better this year.

His ankle was broken
 

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Game came down to one play.
Down 35-28 with 7:30 minutes left, Trask throws an interception in the endzone. Any momentum we had was lost.
LSU scores in less than two minutes on 4 plays and game over.
Even so I doubt we win. We couldn't stop LSU. At best we trade scores and end up in OT.

Looking at our drives:
1) Punt: Three plays two incomplete passes.
2) Touchdown: Five yard pass, after runs for 4 &17 yards by Perine and 12 & 3 by EJ
3) Punt: Four plays; 23yard pass, incomplete pass, 1 yard run, 8 yard scramble
4) Touchdown: EJ circus pass, Perine ran for 10, EJ for 8 & 4, Trask for 12
5) Touchdown: Six yard pass, Davis ran for 4, Perine for 4, EJ for 5, Trask for 3
Halftime
6) Touchdown: Two yard pass, Perine ran for 5, Hammond for 11, Perine for 5 and 4
7) Punt: Three plays, sack, delay of game
8) Punt: EJ 2 yards, 1 yard, incomplete pass
9) Interception: Not the pass Trask should have thrown.
LSU scores 4 plays later, 42-28 with 5:43 left in the game.
10) Meaningless drive

Looking at the drives I was surprised to see that we had some success on the ground. (obviously though that's not all the running plays).
After drive 6, LSU scores and then pinned their ears back for a 3&out on drive 7. EJ went in drive 8 for a change of pace and although he had had some success he got stuffed. I don't have a problem with EJ coming in on that drive.
 

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Game came down to one play.
Down 35-28 with 7:30 minutes left, Trask throws an interception in the endzone. Any momentum we had was lost.
LSU scores in less than two minutes on 4 plays and game over.
Even so I doubt we win. We couldn't stop LSU. At best we trade scores and end up in OT.

Looking at our drives:
1) Punt: Three plays two incomplete passes.
2) Touchdown: Five yard pass, after runs for 4 &17 yards by Perine and 12 & 3 by EJ
3) Punt: Four plays; 23yard pass, incomplete pass, 1 yard run, 8 yard scramble
4) Touchdown: EJ circus pass, Perine ran for 10, EJ for 8 & 4, Trask for 12
5) Touchdown: Six yard pass, Davis ran for 4, Perine for 4, EJ for 5, Trask for 3
Halftime
6) Touchdown: Two yard pass, Perine ran for 5, Hammond for 11, Perine for 5 and 4
7) Punt: Three plays, sack, delay of game
8) Punt: EJ 2 yards, 1 yard, incomplete pass
9) Interception: Not the pass Trask should have thrown.
LSU scores 4 plays later, 42-28 with 5:43 left in the game.
10) Meaningless drive

Looking at the drives I was surprised to see that we had some success on the ground. (obviously though that's not all the running plays).
After drive 6, LSU scores and then pinned their ears back for a 3&out on drive 7. EJ went in drive 8 for a change of pace and although he had had some success he got stuffed. I don't have a problem with EJ coming in on that drive.

And on that one play you're pointing out here, Cleveland was held so badly his pants nearly got pulled down as the defender fell to the ground hanging on for dear life and the ref just ignored it. Should've been an automatic 1st down and the INT shouldn't have counted.
 

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Thanks again cover2. Unlike the past Ten years the Gators were in it till the end. We just could not stop their drives. If we covered their receivers then their QB just scampered for a 1st down.
 

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