Dan Mullen-to-Cowboys rumors picking up steam

Who landed the best new SEC coach?

  • Arkansas (Sam Pittman)

    Votes: 11 8.6%
  • Missouri (Eli Drinkwitz)

    Votes: 33 25.8%
  • Ole Miss (Lane Kiffin)

    Votes: 84 65.6%

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The question is, do you really trust this AD to hire someone competent, let alone significantly better than Mullen? We really stumbled into Mullen. This AD just like this board was clamoring for Frost or Kelly the last time around. Who do you really think is going to sweep in and keep the upward swing going? Outside of UM, who I think is more likely to coach a Quidditch team than come and coach football at UF, there really is no one without a significant risk out there.
Good God, it's the same damn post every time someone has the audacity to imagine a world without Dan Mullen. "Go ahead and name someone better! By God, I dare you!" Jesus, it gets old.

Do you people really think Dan Mullen is the only one who could have done what he's done the last two years? Mullen is not an elite coach, never has been and never will be. There are plenty of great young coaches out there. Quit acting like the program is going to go under if Dan Mullen isn't roaming the sideline.
 

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Good God, it's the same damn post every time someone has the audacity to imagine a world without Dan Mullen. "Go ahead and name someone better! By God, I dare you!" Jesus, it gets old.

Do you people really think Dan Mullen is the only one who could have done what he's done the last two years? Mullen is not an elite coach, never has been and never will be. There are plenty of great young coaches out there. Quit acting like the program is going to go under if Dan Mullen isn't roaming the sideline.

Do you trust the AD to find one of those "plentiful" elite young great coaches out there? Where do you think this program would be if the AD's first choice Chip Kelly was here?
 

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Do you trust the AD to find one of those "plentiful" elite young great coaches out there? Where do you think this program would be if the AD's first choice Chip Kelly was here?
No, I don't trust Scott Stricklin to find anyone worth a crap. He's a poor man's Fooley. However, I want to see the Gators winning championships. My personal opinion is that we will never win a championship, even a SEC, under Dan Mullen. Hence, losing him wouldn't hurt my feelings that much.

I may be in the minority, but 7-5 seasons with no championships and 10-2 seasons with no championships aren't much different to me. They are both failed seasons.
 

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No, I don't trust Scott Stricklin to find anyone worth a crap. He's a poor man's Fooley. However, I want to see the Gators winning championships. My personal opinion is that we will never win a championship, even a SEC, under Dan Mullen. Hence, losing him doesn't hurt my feelings that much.

I may be in the minority, but 7-5 seasons with no championships and 10-2 seasons with no championships aren't much different to me. They are both failed seasons.
Disagree. 7-5 destroys programs. 10-2 gives you a shot. Cycling through coaches like an M4 on full auto is idiotic and 7-5 leads to that.
 

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So Daniel Jeremiah pops off and pulls out of his ass the theory that Mullen might go to the Cowboys, and Bruce Feldman's take on it is that Mullen makes more sense than Urban Meyer, "because remember what happened between Jerry and Jimmy? The clash of egos?"

In other words, Feldman thinks Mullen is a more sensible hire because Jerry will have an easier time pushing him around.

That would probably be the consensus viewpoint if the Cowboys were to make an offer to Mullen without making one to Meyer. That Urbs is too much his own man for Jerry, whereas Mullen is a more pliable peon.

Personally if I was Mullen I wouldn't take the job under those conditions. It's a little humiliating. I'd need a public pledge from Jerry that he'll give me complete autonomy to run the team.
No one is turning down an offer to coach the Dallas Cowboys, and that certainly includes Dan Mullen.

He won't get that offer, so it's a moot point.
 

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Don't think anyone called for his firing here, just wouldn't be heartbroken if he left. He rebuilt the foundation to some degree and will leave the next guy in a better position than the one he inherited. It's a more attractive job this time around.

I think it's fair to say that actually calling for his immediate firing is not the same thing as routinely predicting that it's inevitable - which is a recurring theme for some here. Admittedly, I was pretty pissed after the verkochte coaching job we all suffered through in Jax, and said so in no uncertain terms. And like everyone on the board, I need to see some prolonged improvement in recruiting - sooner rather than later. I've also expressed the opinion that over-much loyalty to TG, English and Knox was a real danger to the long term health of the program and could cause DM to fail if he refused to make the requisite moves. But there has been an uptick in recruiting, the woods aren't exactly full of HOF coaches clamoring to come to G'ville, and 20-5 doesn't totally suck. So I'm keeping my powder dry, at least for now. End of rant.
 

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Disagree. 7-5 destroys programs. 10-2 gives you a shot. Cycling through coaches like an M4 on full auto is idiotic and 7-5 leads to that.
Again, this thread isn't about firing Mullen. This is about Mullen taking another job. You think Gator football would end as we know it, I do not.
 

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Again, this thread isn't about firing Mullen. This is about Mullen taking another job. You think Gator football would end as we know it, I do not.
I’m posting to the difference between 7-5 and 10-2, nothing to do with Mullen. I think its a HUGE difference as the former leads programs like UF to massive instability and the latter keeps you in it. I’m way more tolerant of a stable program than an unstable one.
 

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I don't know about all that. A head coach has to have self respect, and act like it, if he wants to command the respect that he needs from his players and staff.

Generally speaking, sure, who would turn down the opportunity to coach one of the premier franchises in pro sports? But I'm talking about the particular hypothetical scenario of Urban Meyer being publicly, pointedly passed over in favor of his less-accomplished protege. Everyone would naturally conclude it was because Jerry considered Mullen to be more "bossable."

Or less likely to eclipse Jerry's monumental ego - narcissists hate being upstaged.
 

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No, I don't trust Scott Stricklin to find anyone worth a crap. He's a poor man's Fooley. However, I want to see the Gators winning championships. My personal opinion is that we will never win a championship, even a SEC, under Dan Mullen. Hence, losing him wouldn't hurt my feelings that much.

I may be in the minority, but 7-5 seasons with no championships and 10-2 seasons with no championships aren't much different to me. They are both failed seasons.
I feel better with a 10-2 but I'd feel better with a 7-5 beating Ugay and FSU and no championship.
 

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Do you people really think Dan Mullen is the only one who could have done what he's done the last two years?

Here’s who we passed on after the 2017 season. I’ll let you decide if any of them could have done better from point A to B than Dan Mullen.

Jimbo Fisher
Willie Taggart
Joe Moorhead
Chad Morris
Kevin Sumlin
Jeremy Pruitt
Steve Campbell
Billy Napier
Sonny Dykes
Mario Cristobal
Jonathan Smith
Matt Luke
Josh Heidelberg
Mike Bloomgren
Sean Lewis
Chad Lunsford
Herm Edwards

From A to B Mullen has been exceptional. The bigger question is how he’ll be from B to C.

Edit: First time I’ve tried typing Taggart’s first name. Now I know how everyone ends up with the same numbers of “L.” :lol:
 
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I don't know about all that. A head coach has to have self respect, and act like it, if he wants to command the respect that he needs from his players and staff.

Generally speaking, sure, who would turn down the opportunity to coach one of the premier franchises in pro sports? But I'm talking about the particular hypothetical scenario of Urban Meyer being publicly, pointedly passed over in favor of his less-accomplished protege. Everyone would naturally conclude it was because Jerry considered Mullen to be more "bossable."
Jerry's got to know too that as soon as the heat is on, Urban will come down with psoriasis, nail fungus, anxiety, esophageal spasms, gout, heart palpitations, death or worse. His college stints are meteoric successes, then he seems to become a magnet for virulent pathogens.
 

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Here’s who we passed on after the 2017 season. I’ll let you decide if any of them could have done better from point A to B than Dan Mullen.

Jimbo Fisher
WiLLLLLLLie Taggart
Joe Moorhead
Chad Morris
Kevin Sumlin
Jeremy Pruitt
Steve Campbell
Billy Napier
Sonny Dykes
Mario Cristobal
Jonathan Smith
Matt Luke
Josh Heidelberg
Mike Bloomgren
Sean Lewis
Chad Lunsford
Herm Edwards

From A to B Mullen has been exceptional. The bigger question is how he’ll be from B to C.

Edit: First time I’ve tried typing Taggart’s first name. Now I know how everyone ends up with the same numbers of “L.” :lol:
Uhhhhh... just bc those were the retreads hired by these braindead ADs don't mean those are the only coaches available. Hell almost every coach is available at some price.
 

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No, I don't trust Scott Stricklin to find anyone worth a crap. He's a poor man's Fooley. However, I want to see the Gators winning championships. My personal opinion is that we will never win a championship, even a SEC, under Dan Mullen. Hence, losing him wouldn't hurt my feelings that much.

I may be in the minority, but 7-5 seasons with no championships and 10-2 seasons with no championships aren't much different to me. They are both failed seasons.
If you ain't first, might as well be last. Ok, Ricky Bobby. Sweet baby Jesus... bunch of Morons on this team.

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Here’s who we passed on after the 2017 season. I’ll let you decide if any of them could have done better from point A to B than Dan Mullen.

Jimbo Fisher
WiLLLLLLLie Taggart
Joe Moorhead
Chad Morris
Kevin Sumlin
Jeremy Pruitt
Steve Campbell
Billy Napier
Sonny Dykes
Mario Cristobal
Jonathan Smith
Matt Luke
Josh Heidelberg
Mike Bloomgren
Sean Lewis
Chad Lunsford
Herm Edwards

From A to B Mullen has been exceptional. The bigger question is how he’ll be from B to C.

Edit: First time I’ve tried typing Taggart’s first name. Now I know how everyone ends up with the same numbers of “L.” :lol:
Sumlin or maybe Cristobal would be intriguing....Fisher would mirror Mullens results just based on his recruiting ability and ability to put a staff together.....In other words he's a worse coach but better recruiter than Mullen.
 

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Good God, it's the same damn post every time someone has the audacity to imagine a world without Dan Mullen. "Go ahead and name someone better! By God, I dare you!" Jesus, it gets old.

Do you people really think Dan Mullen is the only one who could have done what he's done the last two years? Mullen is not an elite coach, never has been and never will be. There are plenty of great young coaches out there. Quit acting like the program is going to go under if Dan Mullen isn't roaming the sideline.

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You have a problem, a disease that is hard to cure. You refuse to believe what’s happening before your very eyes. DM has done exceptionally well thus far. He is putting together a very solid program that is gaining more momentum each day. He is a great teacher and his ability to recruit is about to improve. That combo will put us back to where we were and want to be again. I use to respect your posts. Not any more after reading this one.
 

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