Recruiting 2020 Recruiting Thread: Gervon Dexter gets 5th Star on Rivals

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Some of you guys are so delusional you may want to reside in the state capital. I don't think landing a top ten recruiting class and winning 11 games a year qualifies a failure. It's not just (or even) facilities that hamstring our shot at an elite class, whatever that means. IMHO, it is our institutional bent to follow the rules, all the time, every time. No bagmen. No alumni endorsement deals. No recruits of questionable character (if we can identify them). We are Florida and that is more than a football NC or SEC championship. Bam'ers have nothing else to hold on to. Dwags have never had anything but the forlorn aspiration of football glory. 10rc fans pray for championships and enough money for dental work. LSU is in the poorest state in the Union and football (and athletics in general) is a release for downtrodden. Remember who we are; not only the flagship university for the state but the single elite public university in the whole of the SEC and the south. We cure cancer and build heroes. Athletic prowess is just icing on the cake. GO GATORS!!
Save the sanctimonious BS for the UAA Group think meetings. You either play the game the way the game is played or get out. There is no solace in saying we’re better citizens while our competition is playing for championships.
 

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Didn't they say that he didnt even get a NLI because he said not to bother?
Id much rather they just tell us like this.

Even all the recruiting pumper goofballs knew Henderdon wasnt coming a month ago. If Gonzalez didnt know, thats on him.
 
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Other than being patient, or just shutting football down until we get it fixed, I'm really not sure what else can be done. Be pissed. You should be. We all should be. But I'll give DM credit for taking this on and doing at least better than his predecessors while we pull ourselves out of a hole we allowed people like Foley to dig. Doesn't mean our recruiters are above reproach. But the issues go a lot deeper than Dan Mullen.
Of course they are, but some things we can fix today. DL recruiting was as easy as changing the face. We didnt get the top class there but we are solid.

Please dont tell me it is impossible to land safeties, WRs, RBs or ILBs without faciltiies.

Will it be possible to beat Ugly or Bammer? Maybe, but we should be able to beat scUM, who doesn't have a tent to their name, and maybe Cowbell or GaTech.
 
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yes. Under Meyer. Under Spurrier it was split constantly between the big 3.
I got to believe with Meyer, we got most of the ones we wanted. We definitely missed out on some when he was coach too. Can’t get them all, but Mullen and company should’ve been able to do better, and that’s a problem.
everyone thinks or believes it was Meyer, but it never happened. It's a myth.
 

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Save the sanctimonious BS for the UAA Group think meetings. You either play the game the way the game is played or get out. There is no solace in saying we’re better citizens while our competition is playing for championships.
Didn't you notice the fact that we have no competition.
 

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Y’all should really try harder to detect sarcasm. That was a joke aimed at @Swamp Donkey ’s constant braying that UF WRs only block...

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I got the joke ... and contributed mine
 

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I will be pizzed and ready to protest like a dimocrat if UF doesn't concentrate on FOOTBALL facilities and have them ready ON TIME. We were pretty successful recruiting our greatest need, linemen on both sides. Usually that is not going get you a top 5 ranking. Certainly will keep my fingers crossed for a RB and more receivers on Final Signing Day. We achieved more than I thought we would in our first two years under CDM, the progress is slow and steady. I would sure like to meet and beat Bama in two years in the SECCG.
 

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Some of you guys are so delusional you may want to reside in the state capital. I don't think landing a top ten recruiting class and winning 11 games a year qualifies a failure. It's not just (or even) facilities that hamstring our shot at an elite class, whatever that means. IMHO, it is our institutional bent to follow the rules, all the time, every time. No bagmen. No alumni endorsement deals. No recruits of questionable character (if we can identify them). We are Florida and that is more than a football NC or SEC championship. Bam'ers have nothing else to hold on to. Dwags have never had anything but the forlorn aspiration of football glory. 10rc fans pray for championships and enough money for dental work. LSU is in the poorest state in the Union and football (and athletics in general) is a release for downtrodden. Remember who we are; not only the flagship university for the state but the single elite public university in the whole of the SEC and the south. We cure cancer and build heroes. Athletic prowess is just icing on the cake. GO GATORS!!


Solid post. While all of this is true, and is something we are all very proud of... I don't think greatness in one area should be used as an excuse for mediocrity in another. We should strive for greatness and championships in everything we do. All of those accolades that you mentioned are why so many people, such as many of us on this site, refuse to accept anything less than the best when it comes to both facilities and coaches/recruiters.
 

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everyone thinks or believes it was Meyer, but it never happened. It's a myth.

No it’s not. You just made that up.

An obvious lie that is easily refuted by doing a simple search.

Anybody that goes to Rivals and looks at State player rankings by year will see that under Meyer we dominated the state.

Thanks for playing though.
 

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No it’s not. You just made that up.

An obvious lie that is easily refuted by doing a simple search.

Anybody that goes to Rivals and looks at State player rankings by year will see that under Meyer we dominated the state.

Thanks for playing though.

Yeah it's hard for me to believe Meyer didn't dominate instate recruiting while he was finishing top 3 or 4 nationally every year in recruiting.
 

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But then you’re asking a staff, which admittedly has some definite flaws of its own that need to be addressed, to be on par with schools that are killing it. Every school in front of us has better facilities and didn't allow themselves to be in this position. So while I join you in your frustration, and still think changes on staff are needed, I'm not gong to pound on Mullen when he's been hamstrung by people above. It's like you're watching a wheelchair basketball game, recognize the limitations, but yet harping on their spotty transition defense.

Other than being patient, or just shutting football down until we get it fixed, I'm really not sure what else can be done. Be pissed. You should be. We all should be. But I'll give DM credit for taking this on and doing at least better than his predecessors while we pull ourselves out of a hole we allowed people like Foley to dig. Doesn't mean our recruiters are above reproach. But the issues go a lot deeper than Dan Mullen.

If you just worry about recruiting Florida and S. Georgia recruiting you spend less time on the road and can concentrate on the important relationships. Don't have to abandon places like NC or Virginia, but you can abandon Cali and other places that yield little success. You can't recruit geography, and we have it for the Florida kids. I know facilities are a big deal, but so is mama. That's why Mullen keeps saying top 10 academic. It doesn't matter whether these kids can take advantage of that or not, it makes mama feel good. We have to keep beating the drum of play for your state and do it in front of your family.

I want to own the state, meaning at least, we arent looking up at Clemson or Miami for the top kids.

There is no excuse for us finishing tied w the Clown team who had no coach wrt top 25 and finishing behind them w top 50.

If we win the state, we are fine. We shouldnt waste time in most other areas and should generally take the Florida kid over anyone else unless they are clearly and indisputably better.

So your metric is gaining the most recruits out of the top 25 and then the most out of the next 25? I think that's fair, but I'd add the top 10 most years too.
 

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If you just worry about recruiting Florida and S. Georgia recruiting you spend less time on the road and can concentrate on the important relationships. Don't have to abandon places like NC or Virginia, but you can abandon Cali and other places that yield little success. You can't recruit geography, and we have it for the Florida kids. I know facilities are a big deal, but so is mama. That's why Mullen keeps saying top 10 academic. It doesn't matter whether these kids can take advantage of that or not, it makes mama feel good. We have to keep beating the drum of play for your state and do it in front of your family.



So your metric is gaining the most recruits out of the top 25 and then the most out of the next 25? I think that's fair, but I'd add the top 10 most years too.
Didn't we get 2 of the Florida top ten this year? Had we gotten 2 more, things would be different.
 

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Yeah it's hard for me to believe Meyer didn't dominate instate recruiting while he was finishing top 3 or 4 nationally every year in recruiting.

We absolutely did in his early years. The 2006 class seemed like we got every Top 25 kid in Fl, outside of Patrick Robinson. 2007 was similar.

Without looking it up, I'd say we started losing ground a bit in the 2009 class as we became more global and fsu began gaining traction again.
 

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Didn't we get 2 of the Florida top ten this year? Had we gotten 2 more, things would be different.
Yes, Rivals has us with two of the top 10 and 5 of the top 50 because Manuel didn't sign. Getting 10% of the top 50 when you're the Flagship and they other two major programs are sucking d!ck isn't an accomplishment
 
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