I have begun to wonder why the AD takes all the heat - at what point do we start pointing fingers at the boosters? You would have to think that the big spenders are happy with how their money is being spent if they keep donating. The Heaveners seem like the only folks tossing football cash out there.
Exactly. There are some AD's out there that will make moves out of demand and pursuit of excellence but we dont have one of those. We have a guy who is going to keep the ship afloat and generally heading in a positive direction, but he's not going to make waves over something that he doesn't believe is broken.
The AD does what he is told to do in regards to the highest paid employee at the school. Anyone that thinks otherwise is just a dumbass. #lawdonkey
I don’t get why the top boosters are happy with it though? What’s the point of donating all that money - tax write offs? I know if I was dropping tens of thousands of dollars a year I would want some return on my investment. Since having my name on a building isn’t important - at all - I would want to see a return to greatness for FOOTBALL (just clarifying in case any booster is reading and looking for advice).
So what?
Because you dont think like they do - at all. To you that name on the building means nothing, to many of them it's their status symbol, it's everything. It's their ticket to raising their nose up just a little bit higher than all the other high society snobs at all the fancy cocktail parties. Their ROI isnt simply measured in football wins and losses, that's low on the totem pole for many of them. I would wager half dont even care about football. Think about it like the Kentucky Derby. There is so much pomp and circumstance there and so much money and influence flowing around but most of that money isn't really attached to who wins and loses, sure some is. But much more than most would expect has nothing to do with a horse race, and everything to do with winning a social status contest. It's not much different in the UF big money circles.
we will see how it goes.
No, I was just adding to that guys post, ass. And considering the disadvantages any coach is going to inherit by coming here, I’ll gladly take the guy who has proven he can punch above his weight.
I get all that but at the end of the day they’re still donating to athletics and I’m sure football is higher on the list that gymnastics (unless they’re creepy old men... which is possible). Having your name on a building owned by slumlords isn’t that great of a social status. I would think if naming rights was a big deal they would be gunning for roads (like lemerand) or academic research buildings that might produce Nobels.
I really dont think you do and your statement after saying you do sort of proves it. In order to understand it you have to completely change your mindset. You really think that they look at that building with their name on it as being slumlord owned? I get that you dont "agree" with the mindset. I dont either, but it still exists.
No, I mean I see what you’re saying but there’s less prestige in a building name if its for a losing program. Wouldn’t you want both - a building named after you that also produces champions? I’m sure the Heaveners love it every time ESPN flashes their name when discussing the new building but the Clemson and Bama boosters get theirs shown off every time ESPN or ABC or CBS is on campus. Guess what I’m getting at is that if getting my name on a building was important, it would follow that I would want as many eyes to see it as possible and winning championships guarantees that.
no disputing that, and im sure if we were winning titles theyd be all the more happier, but what you aren't getting, and what im trying to tell you is, for many of them, footall, wins, titles, all that stuff isnt that important to them. For a sizable number of them, just the access and amount of ass kissing in social circles that comes from big money donations is more than enough to keep them coming whether we are winning titles or having losing seasons. I'm telling you man, for many boosters, its not really about the result at all.
Uh huh. We will see. His ass is nukular by Nov 2020.
You predicted he be gone next year. We’ll see how’s accurate that turns out to be. I’m guessing it falls short like the rest.
I’ve met several “bulls” - been a while admittedly - and winning seemed paramount. Doesn’t jive with your statement but I suppose you might know some or have spoken to some more recently. Might have to do with which boosters too. I’m guessing results matter to the Heaveners since they spend money on football. You actually know any or just guessing based on gut?
That sounds like a problem we might run into in the future then. I believe Mullen will continue to win his 10 games a year but hopefully we decide much like UGA decided that winning 10 games but losing yearly to your rival and not winning championships is not ok. I mean do we really think that he would stay if we are not reaching the SECCG at all? Because your gonna have to beat UGA in order to get there and I dont see that happening in the future right now with recruiting not up to par.
There are some that are all about football, but there is a larger than we'd like number of them that only care about the status it brings them. I wasn't going to specifically state I know first hand but if you are asking, then yes, I know some like that. And I know others who claim to know plenty more with that mindset. There's a significant pool of deep pockets in that arena. Sofla alluded to them when he spoke about how a lot of boosters loved chump despite his record - he could schmooze, was a local, said what they wanted to hear, and kissed lots of ass, inflated their egos with his snake oil salesman approach... that was the most important thing to some of them.
Much like UGA decided? You mean after 15 years? You realize richt was hired around 2000 right? If we hope our AD behaves like UGA, you better get used to Dan.
WE aren't gonna do anything but continue to discuss it on a message board and watch the games during the season. As far as the AD and the boosters? Yes, 10 wins and NY6s mean he isnt going anywhere.
I was meaning finally get rid of him. I knew he was there for way to long. But the point was they finally decided enough was enough. Personally with how things are playing out I think 5-7 years is enough time. He deserved 4 but with the two 10 win seasons hes earned a few more years.unless something crazy happens.
