Recruiting 2020 Recruiting Thread: Gervon Dexter gets 5th Star on Rivals

Swamp Donkey · Jan 5, 2020

Ancient Reptile said:
If you are saying that CDM doesn't even use long routes to occupy the safety, then wouldn't that be the story? Why carp about short routes when major incompetence is evident?

I harp about exactly that. We block the WRs when running routes would be more effective, as it ties up usually a corner and a safety, or if they dont honor the route you throw instead.

We did a thing breaking down all the options and rpos in the USCJr game. There were only a couple of verrical passes in the first half.

Do I literally mean there are NEVER passes that arent sideways (4 yard route and 20 yards sideways is a sideways pass)? no. But when you start the play w the LBs knowing you are throwing in front of them it makes there jobs so.much easier and they cant really get burnt even if they cheat vs the run. It also allows the safeties to cheat in the box.

The frustrating part is he knows how to call a more wide-open game but he doesn't occasionally, usually in the fourth quarter when we're losing again.

jdh5484 · Jan 5, 2020

UFHealthGator said:
If you can pull off an upset on a "consistent basis" it won't be an upset now would it. I know FSU is in the dumps, but they were the more talented team the past two years. Miami is not far off too. Just maybe a reminder of where we would have been had we hired Chip Kelly or one of the other clowns. I remember all the arguments here that Chip Kelly did not need to be a good recruiter, because if he comes to UF recruits would follow. Well now we know that is not true.

Either way if you told me two years ago what our record and recruiting would look like under two years of Mullen I would take it all day.

I was pissed that he didn't beat UGA this year, but only reason I was pissed is because he actually made the team competitive to a point we all felt that they could be beat, and that is credit to him.

If you are the underdog (lets say at least 7 points) and you win...then it's an upset. If that scenario happens 1 or 2 times a season, then I consider it "consistent". Has he beaten a few teams that he was not supposed to beat?

Again, going back to Donkeys post... he's expecting to lose the ones the "experts" expect us to lose. That's a realistic expectation.

alcoholica · Jan 5, 2020

5-Star Finger said:
Some people in this thread need to post more often.

I’ll do my best

78 · Jan 5, 2020

Ancient Reptile said:
Sideways offense? If we keep running up the yards he can run reverses every play for all I care.

Probably the best post of the 14k on this thread. Some of the jackasses here are so wrapped up in style points that they’ve forgetten how to add total yards.

jdh5484 · Jan 5, 2020

Passing yards per completion:
NCAA College Football FBS current team Stats | NCAA.com

Alabama- 7th
Tenn - 14th
LSU - 20th
Clemson - 32nd
Miami- 51st
FSU - 59th
UF - 62nd

alcoholica · Jan 5, 2020

jdh5484 said:
Passing yards per completion:
NCAA College Football FBS current team Stats | NCAA.com

Alabama- 7th
Tenn - 14th
LSU - 20th
Clemson - 32nd
Miami- 51st
FSU - 59th
UF - 62nd

How do we compare in yds per an attempt?

78 · Jan 5, 2020

Swamp Donkey said:
You've become completely moronic.

There is literally nothing objective about this statement. He inherited a team that has a better roster than 9 or 10 teams on the schedule, but who managed to win 4 games thru retarded coaching in 2013 and 2017. Then they won 10 games for their first two years.

Neither can recruit even to UF "average". Butters lost twice to Clowns. Mullinz lost twice to Dwags.

It's almost exactly symmetrical. There is nothing resurrected. Nothing has changed. You are just repeating this chant trying to get yourself ready for yearly asswhippings by the Dwags while you scream that the naked emporer is wearing a great robe.

First of all, good to have you back. Secondly, you remain what you have always been, a walking contradiction. If you can’t identify it from your own post above, there’s simply no helping you. But, then again, I’ve known you long enough to know that facts never get in the way of the narrative.

We ARE improving, doosh, and that includes recruiting AND the portal. It never was going to be a sustainably steep rise . Sit back, pour another Bacardi Breezer and relax.

Swamp Donkey · Jan 5, 2020

jdh5484 said:
Passing yards per completion:
NCAA College Football FBS current team Stats | NCAA.com

Alabama- 7th
Tenn - 14th
LSU - 20th
Clemson - 32nd
Miami- 51st
FSU - 59th
UF - 62nd

You are treading on thin ice here.

The fvkking lemmings will be in attack mode.

Swamp Donkey · Jan 5, 2020

78 said:
First of all, good to have you back. Secondly, you remain what you have always been, a walking contradiction. If you can’t identify it from your own post above, there’s simply no helping you. But, then again, I’ve known you long enough to know that facts never get in the way of the narrative.

We ARE improving, doosh, and that includes recruiting AND the portal. It never was going to be a sustainably steep rise . Sit back, pour another Bacardi Breezer and relax.

Did you see the tweet from the Rivals guy comparing the recruiting classes of the past 10 years and how this one was 4th or 5th? I forget which.

Just ignore that bc it doesnt fit the narrative?

I cant search on my phone, but it is probably one of my last ten posts, a tweet from The Corndwag that covers us.

Edit:Maybe this works. If not delete mobile from the url.

jdh5484 · Jan 5, 2020

Swamp Donkey said:
You are treading on thin ice here.

The fvkking lemmings will be in attack mode.

I'm 100% behind you ... far enough back not to take direct hits!

78 · Jan 5, 2020

Swamp Donkey said:
You are treading on thin ice here.

The fvkking lemmings will be in attack mode.

Yeah, good stat. Air Force, Navy, Army and the National Guard are atop that list.

ThreatMatrix · Jan 5, 2020

Swamp Donkey said:
I harp about exactly that. We block the WRs when running routes would be more effective, as it ties up usually a corner and a safety, or if they dont honor the route you throw instead.

We did a thing breaking down all the options and rpos in the USCJr game. There were only a couple of verrical passes in the first half.

Do I literally mean there are NEVER passes that arent sideways (4 yard route and 20 yards sideways is a sideways pass)? no. But when you start the play w the LBs knowing you are throwing in front of them it makes there jobs so.much easier and they cant really get burnt even if they cheat vs the run. It also allows the safeties to cheat in the box.

The frustrating part is he knows how to call a more wide-open game but he doesn't occasionally, usually in the fourth quarter when we're losing again.

How many times would Trask get sacked behind our line if he was waiting for 50 yard routes? Seems like something Mac tried to do. We've had this argument from day one with you and your girlfriend. Mullen is gonna adjust to what the defense gives us. Not religiously adhere to a single scheme. Franks couldn't be trusted so he threw a lot of dump passes. But even so, in his last few games he was launching (and completing) longer routes. As Franks developed Mullen adjusted. LIkewise with Trask, between his capabilities (weak arm) and the lines capabilities (none) we managed more 300 yard passing games than any time in the last decade. This from a coach that only knows how to call a "sideways offense". SMH.
We are an extremely flawed team but somehow managed 11 wins behind a line soo bad that we all but abandoned the run game. That's f'ing amazing.

Captain Sasquatch · Jan 5, 2020

Swamp Donkey said:
It really isnt that difficult to compare the two times a quarter we run anything but short routes.

We actually count them off in the chatbox on game days. You could do.somethung super simple like that, Im sure.

I just watched the offensive supercut of the UVA game. Out of 39 pass attempts, 13 were at or behind the line of scrimmage. And I was even generous with that number. There were 3 or 4 traditional middle screens that wouldn't be considered "sideways" passes, one of those quick shovel pitches on the jet sweep action that DEFINITELY isn't sideways, and one time when the called play was a quick WR screen that was thrown away by Trask because the defense sniffed it out.

So we're talking less than 10 of 39 pass attempts were "sideways," and a few of those went for double digit gains, including the one to Jefferson that went for about 50 late in the game. Perine's 2nd rushing touchdown was also set up by a pump fake on a "sideways" throw. As much as I'd love to keep burying you by watching the rest of the games, I think this will suffice for now. Just put it on your tab of being wrong.

CapitalGator02 · Jan 5, 2020

jdh5484 said:
Passing yards per completion:
NCAA College Football FBS current team Stats | NCAA.com

Alabama- 7th
Tenn - 14th
LSU - 20th
Clemson - 32nd
Miami- 51st
FSU - 59th
UF - 62nd

FFS, our QB hadn’t started a game since high school plus we completely gave up on a run game, WTF do you expect? And yet we still managed to beat Tenn, Miami and curb-stomped FSU. Clemson is ranked 32nd and on their way to their second natty in a row. Spin stats all you want, but this is dumb.

Thick&ThinG8r · Jan 5, 2020

Swamp Donkey said:
Did you see the tweet from the Rivals guy comparing the recruiting classes of the past 10 years and how this one was 4th or 5th? I forget which.

Just ignore that bc it doesnt fit the narrative?

I cant search on my phone, but it is probably one of my last ten posts, a tweet from The Corndwag that covers us.

Mullens recruiting has a long way to go but, that I don't believe. All the classes in the lost decade were unbalanced, just as this one is. What they didn't have was elite defensive tackles this one does.

78 · Jan 5, 2020

Swamp Donkey said:
Did you see the tweet from the Rivals guy comparing the recruiting classes of the past 10 years and how this one was 4th or 5th? I forget which.

Just ignore that bc it doesnt fit the narrative?

I cant search on my phone, but it is probably one of my last ten posts, a tweet from The Corndwag that covers us.

Maybe this works. If not delete mobile from the url.

No I did not. Look, recruiting has a long way to go. You’ll get no argument. Mullen needs more than a few self-reflective moments in that department.

I stick with where I’ve been all along. The program WAS broken when Mullen took over, he quickly changed the course on the field, but he’s got the wind in his face re recruiting. He’s going to have to find a way to move up the elite ladder. And you and I both know he’s going to be given ample time to try and work through it.

Swamp Donkey · Jan 5, 2020

78 said:
Yeah, good stat. Air Force, Navy, Army and the National Guard are atop that list.

do you want to compare total offense or passing offense? You're not going to like those numbers either. we are pretty consistently 60 ish.

Captain Sasquatch · Jan 5, 2020

Swamp Donkey said:
Did you see the tweet from the Rivals guy comparing the recruiting classes of the past 10 years and how this one was 4th or 5th? I forget which.

Just ignore that bc it doesnt fit the narrative?

I cant search on my phone, but it is probably one of my last ten posts, a tweet from The Corndwag that covers us.

Edit:Maybe this works. If not delete mobile from the url.

4th or 5th? Is counting not your strong suit? This year's class, according to that tweet, is the 3rd best class we landed this decade.

78 · Jan 5, 2020

Swamp Donkey said:
do you want to compare total offense or passing offense? You're not going to like those numbers either. we are pretty consistently 60 ish.

45th and there’s not much of a delta from there to the top 20. We know where the issues are, and they’re all potentially fixable. It isn’t going to happen, however, with a drop back passer.

MJMGator · Jan 5, 2020

16th in passing offense this past season. Friggin miracle compared to the past decade.

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