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I think that’s scoring defense, which makes sense in 2017 given all the defensive touchdowns scored against us. :lol:

I just looked again and it says "total defense". I'm on my phone so I can't really tell what was all included, just know it improved drastically. Even more impressive is the marked improvement in that area considering the past 2 seasons are the first seasons since 2009 we've actually had an offense that attempted to score.
 

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Stability in coaching is a plus but change creates more opportunity. If Grantham really wants the MSU job let him follow his passion and go. There is a concern of who he takes with him, and how much uncertainty it causes in the ranks . You have to assume that Grantham leaving is not a surprise to CDM and he has a short list ready. It is late in the process and we will need to move quickly. Think Mullen has been talking to Strong and or Chizik? Not sure either one is an option, but rounding up the usual suspects would include those two. Could get interesting and ugly, so hang on to your butts.
 

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You could be right, you could be wrong. One thing we do know, lots of variables to consider.

Let me share this.

2016 Mississippi State defense (before Grantham)
Total rank: 93rd
Passing yards per game: 289

2017 Mississippi State defense (after Grantham )
Total rank: 10th
Passing yards per game: 175
Listen, he's not terrible. But if he takes a HC job I'm not going to sit around with the "woe is us, who can we get better" attitude that some here throw out every time a coach isnt living up to expectations. If he goes, he goes. Worst case, and I do mean worst case scenario - we will be about the same. Even with crap coordinators we have always had top 25 defenses due to talent alone in certain cases.
 

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Listen, he's not terrible. But if he takes a HC job I'm not going to sit around with the "woe is us, who can we get better" attitude that some here throw out every time a coach isnt living up to expectations. If he goes, he goes. Worst case, and I do mean worst case scenario - we will be about the same. Even with crap coordinators we have always had top 25 defenses due to talent alone in certain cases.

Randy Shannon disagrees
 

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Its pretty clear there is a large consensus about grantham and how effective his defenses are once theyve done the job on 1st and 2nd down. Stereotypes exist for a reason...

I definitely agree with that. We’ve been up, down and all around on offense since I became a Gator. We’ve always been able to play defense. The next guy should be okay.

As to the stereotype, did it exist before Florida?

Edit: That’s not the post I replied to. There was a lot of traffic at the time. Not the first time that’s happened.

Durty, it was post #242.
 

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I definitely agree with that. We’ve been up, down and all around on offense since I became a Gator. We’ve always been able to play defense. The next guy should be okay.

As to the stereotype, did it exist before Florida?
You're joking right? That moniker has followed him for at least a decade. Dwag fans were screaming it when he was there under richt.
 

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your love for 3rd and convert is unparalleled :pumper:

and your hate for Grantham is unfounded considering he's always had top 25 defenses...

Losing Grantham wont be the end of the world but who we hire is important and we also will likely lose some staff members from this team if Grantham leaves. Im big on continuity
 

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and your hate for Grantham is unfounded considering he's always had top 25 defenses...

Losing Grantham wont be the end of the world but who we hire is important and we also will likely lose some staff members from this team if Grantham leaves. Im big on continuity
im big on upgrades to get where we want to be. and that requires changes to continuity. its gonna be ok lil buddy. :therethere:
 

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im big on upgrades to get where we want to be. and that requires changes to continuity. its gonna be ok lil buddy. :therethere:

So what DC is an upgrade? Losing English and Knox would be an upgrade...I'm not seeing any sure fire hires that would come in and be better. Give me your list of upgrades Donk Jr
 

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