The case for Emory Jones

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Look, I hope you are right. But I don't see a FB and traditional running game in our future any time soon.

We are sticking with the option and it's gonna keep looking like it does when you have a statue QB running the option.
It's certainly a catch 22....I think we could have had some success last season with more 2 back looks and some trap/misdirection plays but that goes against our base offensive philosophy....it also doesn't help when your G's&T's can't execute youth league basic blocking fundamentals and technique either....Hev needs to put a foot in some peoples asses this Spring and Fall...It always amazes me when I think back on the SOS days and all the credit he got(rightfully so) for our passing game but watch the execution of our offensive linemen from that era even when executing the simplest run blocking schemes...they were like a well oiled machine.
 

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It's certainly a catch 22....I think we could have had some success last season with more 2 back looks and some trap/misdirection plays but that goes against our base offensive philosophy.....
What team were you watching?
 

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What team were you watching?
He’s desperate to get away from this whole “forward pass” fad that will surely pass soon. You know ol’ Crete - waiting on the rise of Bert again. Bet he’s secretly hoping Pittman reinstalls that same offense at Hog again.
 

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I would be shocked if EJ is named the starter coming out of camp to start the season. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. When Trask was given the opportunity, he took full advantage of it. So much so that even Franks saw the writing on the wall and decided to try his luck elsewhere and I wish him the best of luck. From recent history, I feel like we will see a repeat of last year with an effort to get EJ in a tad bit more this season. No matter what happens I think we are in good situation no matter who is named the starter. With all that being said, I think we have a potential game changer in AR. The future looks bright.
im giving you a like for the name and avatar alone. Iss all good man!
 

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Here is Max Emfinger's breakdown of the two quarterbacks. You decide who he favors:

Kyle Trask - Pro-style Quarterback - Florida
Trask is a gritty and courageous lunch-pail type who relies on intelligence and leadership over raw talent. While his arm strength and speed aren't noticeably superior to other college quarterbacks, he has the ability to lead and win through sheer will, smarts and guts. Trask can be a second or third-round pick, possibly higher. He will undoubtedly have a career as an NFL starter should he remain injury-free. His leadership abilities alone are enough to make him a starter, exemplified both on and off the field.

Emory Jones - Dual-threat Quarterback/Athlete - Florida
Jones possesses some rare innate talents as an athlete and could play several positions at the next level. Unfortunately, quarterback is not one of them. While his arm strength and speed are both superior, he does not possess the decision-making ability on or off the field to take it to the next level. The "it" factor is just not there with him, neither in field generalship nor in his ability to lead. That being said, he's a superior athlete and will be a very good receiver or defensive back at the next level. His leg musculature, strength, and gifted speed are qualities that nearly every NFL team is looking for.
He thinks EJ has the speed to be an NFL defensive back? Solid, trustworthy analysis.
 

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Should Emory Jones start at quarterback for the #Gators in 2020? @KeiserDonavon makes the case: Should Emory Jones Start at QB for Florida in 2020?[/QUO
Is this a serious question? Trask will be regarded as one of the best QBs ever at UF! What he did last year with zero help from the O-line or RBs has never been done here. His ability to make the correct read nearly every time should make Emory Jones irrelevant. The only time Trask struggled was after EJ came in for a stupid play and broke the momentum.
 

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What team were you watching?
The one that ran the ball straight into the back of the center....repeatedly.....over and over......and don't ask me what kind of blocking scheme they were supposedly running because I'm not sure our players knew either.
Conventional 2 back sets or the use of an Hback/fullback would actually make Trask look better than he did last year(can you imagine him with effective use of play action from a supportive run game) but would stunt Emory's development for the future....
 

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Conventional 2 back sets or the use of an Hback/fullback would actually make Trask look better than he did last year(can you imagine him with effective use of play action from a supportive run game) but would stunt Emory's development for the future....
can you just remind me which games we ran two backs whether it's a fullback or not? I mean other than goalline or 4th and 1?
 

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well luckily the "anchor of our offensive line" Buchanan is gone.
Wouldn’t have mattered if we had Walter Payton or Barry Sanders back there with any scheme from power I, spread option(we tried it), triple option, flying wedge or whatever with that steaming pile of a front 5. And don’t give me that shyt about we looked better running with EJ back there. That’s like comparing the degrees of polish on a turd.
 

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Ej averaged 6.5 yards per carry? They were doing something right.... just not Buchanan.

Edit: 7.0 per carry.

I agree, if Walter Payton is getting hit in the backfield it's not going to work well but that was a sceme problem as much as a talent problem.

Just like none of our backs in 2005 and 2006 worked, until we had in a fullback and took away the option plays.
 
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can you just remind me which games we ran two backs whether it's a fullback or not? I mean other than goalline or 4th and 1?
That's my point.....I'm not saying we have or for that matter we are going to just an observation that I think would be a good fit for Trask. Just an archaic wrinkle....
 

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That's my point.....I'm not saying we have or for that matter we are going to just an observation that I think would be a good fit for Trask. Just an archaic wrinkle....
of course it would be a better fit.

I just don't see it coming. perhaps with time in the offseason to prepare will we will reconsider. at some point apparently the staff convince Mullins to late in the season to abandon his run game, per the commentator durimg the bowl game, we'll see where we go from here. I suspect more of the same though.

I find it ironic that finally in the bowl game we did a little more passing to set up the run and the run game worked a little. I hope he was taking notes but ego is a powerful thing.
 

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Ej averaged 6.5 yards per carry? They were doing something right.... just not Buchanan.

Edit: 7.0 per carry.

I agree, if Walter Payton is getting hit in the backfield it's not going to work well but that was a sceme problem as much as a talent problem.

Just like none of our backs in 2005 and 2006 worked, until we had in a fullback and took away the option plays.
Do you think his stats would have held up across the schedule with more reps? I have a hard time trusting a sample of 23 carries spread across 5 games.
 

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Do you think his stats would have held up across the schedule with more reps? I have a hard time trusting a sample of 23 carries spread across 5 games.
Defenses would have adjusted, of course. However, that is the point, they have adjusted to ignoring the Gator QB on our option runs, for obvious reasons. The reason ONE of the DEs is in the backfield unblocked is schematic.
 

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That fullback was gonna look awful funny with the center in his lap.
The center was physically overmatched but that's NO excuse for the piss poor technique of the Guards. Their job on inside zone or trap/counter is to engage the NT or whoever is lined up over the center on one side and the other guard should come across without opening up and drill the first MFer he sees usually a ILB....I can count on one hand the times I saw them do that correctly....usually they opened their stance too much telegraphing the look and without initial help on the NT they would sag into the backfield....I'm not a football coach but I did play a little offensive line when most of you f vckers were pissing in your diapers :lol2:.....however some fundamentals and technique never change.
 
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The reason ONE of the DEs is in the backfield unblocked is schematic.
That is also a by product of the DE's "reading the sloppy trainwreck of our G's technique....they did it repeatedly....opening up(turning as they start to come across)...
 

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