Bobby Knight’s emotional return to Assembly Hall

SC Gator

Sorta Kinda
Lifetime Member
Aug 28, 2014
922
1,135
The curse?

A curse for canning a coach whose ego caused him to lose touch with reality?


Actually majority at IU understand the firing. It is Bobby Cursing the Hoosiers, not a curse because they fired him. They think Knight has that type of power. (Tongue in cheek) They understand he was hurt but there have been many chances for him to come back like the 25th anniversary of the undefeated team, he did not....until now.
 

78

Founding Member
Dazed and Confused
Lifetime Member
Jun 9, 2014
19,749
27,640
Founding Member
Knight was still holding a grudge over the idea of a reconciliation as late as 2017. His health is failing. I think he came to the sensible realization it was hurting him more than anybody.

No one said Knight was perfect. He was far from it. He was hot-headed, bombastic, egotistical, and anything else you want to call him. A throwback coach to a different era of thinking. And he won, a lot.

Sort of like George Patton on a basketball court.
 

78

Founding Member
Dazed and Confused
Lifetime Member
Jun 9, 2014
19,749
27,640
Founding Member
So I was actually there at the game Saturday.(son is there) Rumors were flying that morning he would be there. IU’s team is a lot like UF. Flashes of brilliance but underperforming and frustrating. While everyone was into the game with about 6 min in the half the crowd was restless and just wanted to get to halftime.

They introduced like 20 old players and it reminds you how great that program was. Quinn Buckner, Isiah Thomas, Randy Whitman, Steve Alford on and on. Everyone is cheering but waiting for the General.

The time comes they do a video and everyone starts to go nuts. Then he is brought out to the court and people go nuts for about 5 seconds and then realize he is not well. It was a hushed reverence as he shuffled on the court held up by Buckner. People were stunned he was so feeble.

My sons friend works in the Sports Info Dept and knew he was coming but could not talk about it. Apparently they said they want him back but under no circumstance could he have a microphone.

So at some point he quiets the crowd and does a cheer with the students, showed some spunk and the crowd went crazy.

My first IU game. Basketball is religion there. Assembly Hall is just a wow to see. They know the game. There was some close calls ref made that most crowds could have booed the refs, but they did not when the call was right. Replay confirmed those calls but the crowd knew already. They are in a bad 10 year run and it is killing them. They hope with Knight returning, moved back to Bloomington, the curse is lifted.

I think the posters here would be well served by watching the movie Hoosiers. As you said, basketball in Indiana, and esp Bloomington, is a form of religion.
 

Gator By Marriage

A convert to Gatorism
Lifetime Member
Dec 31, 2018
14,867
28,104
Certainly off topic, but it’s basketball season and it’s slow around here. Please allow me.

I think any discussion about the best coaches of all time has to include this guy. Knight’s problem was always the intensity and the over-the-top temper, witness the embarrassing chair-throwing incident at Assembly Hall in 1985 and the Indiana firing in 2001 after he roughed up a player.

Bobby Knight is, was, always will be an SOB. I love him for it.

But he was a great coach, with over 900 wins and leader of the ‘84 Olympic gold-medal team after he booted Charles Barkley in favor of Michael Jordan.

I have to admit, I hadn’t thought about him in awhile. The video of him needing assistance onto the court yesterday at Assembly Hall caught me off guard. He’s apparently suffering from dementia and God knows what else. He’s 79.

Good to see him enjoying himself with his former players, including Isiah Thomas in this tweet. Hang in there, Coach.


I used to work with a gal who played B-ball at IU when Knight was coaching the men's team. According to her, the women's team coach would occasionally invite Coach Knight to their practices to give pointers to their team. Coach Knight was always great about it, but occasionally he would start screaming at the women when they were screwing up. My co-worker said they would come to a complete stop and all look at him as they really weren't used to getting yelled at like that. Apparently Coach Knight would always get an embarrassed look on his face and apologize - apparently having forgotten whose practice he was at. Clearly a very intense guy at all times.

As for the '84 Olympic team, I did not remember it being a choice of Jordan vs. Barkley. I actually recall interview before the tryouts where Coach Knight was asked what he expected the make-up of the roster to be and he replied that he was planning on keeping "five guards, five forwards, three centers and Jordan."
 

cover2

Founding Member
I've grown old
Lifetime Member
Jun 12, 2014
8,912
32,305
Founding Member
3fae425e22e7041d8c368b9677ab3db7.gif
In addition, I always thought he was probably a helluva bowler.
 

78

Founding Member
Dazed and Confused
Lifetime Member
Jun 9, 2014
19,749
27,640
Founding Member
How much of a paradox is it that a guy who was perceived as so physically and emotionally abusive could at the same time elicit “near fanatical devotion” from his former players?

Jordan played for Dean Smith in college, but he got a taste of Knight’s fanatical intensity and attention to detail during the ‘84 Olympics. He was a military guy. He broke down his players before turning them into men.

”Bobby Knight, he got after us. One story real quick. He told Michael that’s the worst he ever played. Now, Michael’s going to deny this but he cried, he cried after the game because of the fact that Bobby Knight told him, ‘You should apologize to everybody in here.’ … Leon Wood was his boy at the time so Leon Wood went over there to pat him on his back and say, ‘It’ll be alright, it’ll be alright.’ But the thing about it, Bobby Knight was just trying to instill some, you know, even though we didn’t play that bad, it’s the fact that he just wanted us to wake up for the next game because anything could happen. But that’s the way Bobby Knight coached.”

Sam Perkins: Bobby Knight made Michael Jordan cry at 1984 Olympics - ProBasketballTalk | NBC Sports
 
Last edited:

-THE DUDE-

Founding Member
This is the year!!!
Jun 11, 2014
5,593
7,874
Founding Member
I loved Bobby Knight...grew up watching a lot of IU basketball when I was a kid. Even attended basketball camps there a few times and he’d come in to talk and speak to us. He scared the living **** out of me.he gave a big speech to start camp where he laid the ground rules and his face was as red as his sweater at the thought anyone would break a rule. He finished that speech by saying before you do anything ask yourself “would I do this with Bob Knight standing right behind you?” I don’t believe anyone ever got out of line
 

stephenPE

Senior Member
Lifetime Member
Jul 20, 2014
20,409
15,408
What's sad about Knight is how he pushes away those close to him. He and Mike Krzyzewski didn't speak for 10 years — until Krzyzewski called Knight and said, "Coach, I wouldn't be going into the Hall of Fame if I hadn't played and coached for you. You're the only person who should give my induction speech."

Even Knight couldn't resist that.

But he could resist phone calls from members of his 1976 team, the last team to go undefeated in college basketball. Several called to plead with him to return last year for a 40th anniversary celebration at IU. No way, Knight said, was he ever returning to Indiana. So, he didn't go. Guess who suffered the most? Robert M. Knight.Knight's not going back to Indiana. He has gone to Purdue — to again make his point about IU — just as he made a point of letting the world know that he spent time with Dean Smith in Chapel Hill in the summer of 1992 but never called Krzyzewski because Krzyzewski had committed the apparent cardinal sin of beating him in the Final Four that spring.
And rat face loved the man.
Outside of my immediate family, no single person has had a greater impact on my life than Coach Knight. I have the ultimate respect for him as a coach and a mentor, but even more so as a dear friend. For more than 40 years, the life lessons I have learned from Coach are immeasurable. Simply put, I love him.

“As a coach, no one has more passion for basketball. No one understands its history or serves it more earnestly. And certainly, no one prepared better or taught the game at a higher level. While this is a tremendous loss for our sport, it is something Coach Knight wanted at this point in his life and as he's consistently done, he handled it in his own way.
May have been a good coach but was a pathetic excuse for a human being...........His former players from that unbeaten team begged him to come back. Fans would have loved him back. But he was too selfish and self centered to do it. Now that he is about gone mentally they brought him back. Feinstein's book on Bobby was generous but gave us a glimpse of the guy.
 

78

Founding Member
Dazed and Confused
Lifetime Member
Jun 9, 2014
19,749
27,640
Founding Member
Looks like none of his former players referred to him as bro.
 

t-gator

Founding Member
too sexy for my shirt
Lifetime Member
Jun 13, 2014
15,716
18,077
Founding Member
My biggest regret for bob knight was that he never got the opportunity to coach latrell sprewell
 

divits

Founding Member
A Muffin of the Studly Variety
Lifetime Member
Jun 13, 2014
12,702
22,997
Founding Member
Cannot stand the guy and never could. And I don't think he's very smart. He may know basketball but he's pretty ignorant of pretty much everything else. And I don't find his tactics funny at all. It's him trying to cover up for his inadequacies.

But hey, that's just me.
 
Last edited:

CU-UF

Meh
Lifetime Member
Aug 31, 2014
1,304
1,848
He's a dirtbag trying to reclaim some dignity before he dies what appears to be an early death. If he is genuinely contrite I would forgive him, but his legacy will always be the crap that he sowed.
 

Jack o' Diamonds

My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts...
Lifetime Member
Aug 29, 2015
1,805
3,236
Cannot stand the guy and never could. And I don't think he's very smart. He may know basketball but he's pretty ignorant of pretty much everything else. And I don't find his tactics funny at all. It's him trying to cover up for his inadequacies.

But hey, that's just me.

I, too, am not a Bob Knight fan...
 

Double Gator Dad

Founding Member
Senior Member
Lifetime Member
Jun 12, 2014
5,013
8,441
Founding Member
I think the posters here would be well served by watching the movie Hoosiers. As you said, basketball in Indiana, and esp Bloomington, is a form of religion.

It would surprise me if many/any of the posters here haven't seen Hoosiers.
I assumed it was required viewing for any sports fan
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Help Users

You haven't joined any rooms.

    Members online

    Forum statistics

    Threads
    31,682
    Messages
    1,620,730
    Members
    1,643
    Latest member
    A2xGator