Mel Tucker to MSU

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Is it possible there’s even more negative story yet to come out regarding Msu and their overall culture? Maybe they felt they had to attract and lock him(someone) up while they could.

I’ll say, between their trainers, the male/male tea-bagging at Psu, rapists/kidnappers in Columbus and a grown man doing sleepovers with recruits at Michigan, that’s shaping up to be one hell of a division.
pretty funny considering their attitudes towards SEC schools. Maybe we pay recruits but at least we don’t commit sexual felonies.
 

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Foley was guilty of that. I hated that approach during the 2014 search. After the Chump disaster, I posted on another site endlessly that he should hire consultants because he could not be trusted to make that hire. Guys on that site argued it endlessly... and we ended up with Mac. They still, to this day, see nothing wrong with the process.
 

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But but but he coached with Saban! Guaranteed success!

Coached with? At that time, if you were rumored to have passed Saban in the hallway going to get water, or stood in line next to him at Panera, you were at least getting an interview.

As for the red flags, I'm sure some here that know the game better saw more than this. But the thing that stood out to me the most was that the interview after the CU game where he ripped the guy for not knowing how to pronounce his name in typical McElwain, on the verge of crying manner. It was cringe worthy to watch. The other red flag was that he followed up that historic win with an equally historic loss the following week to some FCS team. Still the interview was worse.
 

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Coached with? At that time, if you were rumored to have passed Saban in the hallway going to get water, or stood in line next to him at Panera, you were at least getting an interview.

As for the red flags, I'm sure some here that know the game better saw more than this. But the thing that stood out to me the most was that the interview after the CU game where he ripped the guy for not knowing how to pronounce his name in typical McElwain, on the verge of crying manner. It was cringe worthy to watch. The other red flag was that he followed up that historic win with an equally historic loss the following week to some FCS team. Still the interview was worse.
His folksy BS immediately threw me. Seemed so fake and never thought a recruits family would buy it.
 

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His folksy BS immediately threw me. Seemed so fake and never thought a recruits family would buy it.

Someone needs to find and post that interview from his Csu days, and the one after the '16 lsu game where he basically says like 20 words over a :30 period, yet says nothing. Both of those are absolute gold.
 

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Someone needs to find and post that interview from his Csu days, and the one after the '16 lsu game where he basically says like 20 words over a :30 period, yet says nothing. Both of those are absolute gold.
I never got the feeling Ol Jimmy was the sharpest knife in the drawer....
 

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No we got Lingard and Evans has been worked on for awhile. Claytons only shot was if landing him got us SVP...once it was clear Clayton had no drawing power for SVP it was over.
 

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Think we are interested in any of the defensive staff?

Well, we need to have an opening. I know of a secondary coach I'd like to get rid of. I haven't really looked at their staff, who's available. Most of these guys are f'cked, they'll either be out of coaching next season or land as an analyst or at a lower level. I'm not sure if any of them have multi-year deals and will get paid by MSU next year. I just saw the tweet. Usually an incoming coach will retain at least one or two of the former staff.
 

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Well, we need to have an opening. I know of a secondary coach I'd like to get rid of. I haven't really looked at their staff, who's available. Most of these guys are f'cked, they'll either be out of coaching next season or land as an analyst or at a lower level. I'm not sure if any of them have multi-year deals and will get paid by MSU next year. I just saw the tweet. Usually an incoming coach will retain at least one or two of the former staff.
Understand there isn’t an opening and probably won’t be but I didn’t know if there’s a hot to trot assistant that even Mullen couldn’t pass on. That MSU defense has been really good for a long time - surprised Tucker isn’t keeping a few.
 

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Michigan State football coach Mel Tucker's contract details: Just how much is pay raise?

From football scoop:

— Tucker’s salary will start at $5.5 million and breaks out as follows: $3.8 million in salary, $1.2 million in “supplemental pay,” $100,000 in shoe and apparel money (Michigan State is a Nike school) and a $400,000 annual retention bonus.

— Tucker’s $5.5 million salary places him above Tom Izzo and $1.2 million more than Mark Dantonio earned after 13 years as Michigan State’s head coach. It’s 229 percent of the $2.4 million he earned at Colorado. If the Tuckers don’t already have a bouquet of roses en route to the Fickell residence in Cincinnati, they should.

— Tucker can earn more money for running Michigan State’s summer camps, which is separate from his 6-year contract.

— Tucker’s $5.5 million salary would place him 12th nationally based on 2019 figures and fourth in the Big Ten. He’s likely to be fifth once Ryan Day’s coming raise comes through. He’d be nearly $1 million ahead of nearly every other Pac-12 head coach, and that coach — Chris Petersen — is no longer in the conference.

— Tucker’s salary pool will be $6 million, $1.1 million more than what Michigan State provided Dantonio.

— In total, Michigan State will pay $11.5 million to employ Tucker and his 10 on-the-field assistants, an increase from the $9.2 million the school paid for the same 11 spots just over one week ago.

— Leverage is hell of a hammer to swing if you can find it.

— Tucker would owe Michigan State $6 million should he leave before Jan. 15, 2021. That figure drops to $2.5 million the following year, then drops $500,000 a year to a baseline of $1 million.

— If fired without cause, Michigan State would owe Tucker 85 percent of his remaining contract less “non-performance related compensation.”

— If Michigan State is sanctioned by the NCAA for violations by the previous coaching staff — and Curtis Blackwell’s attorneys alleged Dantonio committed violations, though Dantonio denies them — Tucker’s contract will be extended by a year as of the date the sanctions take effect. If Michigan State is sanctioned for, say, three years, Tucker nets a 3-year extension.

— Tucker’s bonuses range from $25,000 for winning Big Ten coach of the year to $375,000 for a national title.

— Among his fringe benefits, Tucker is provided a $2 million term life insurance policy and 25 hours annually of personal private plane travel.
 

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