785 Vikings vs Saxons

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whats the difference between a viking and saxon?

The biggest diff is that the "Saxons" invaded what later came to be known as "England" during the period between the withdrawal of the Roman garrisons from Britain in 406AD and the later part of the 6th century. The Jutes were in fact "Danes" but were subsumed by the more numerous Saxons, led primarily by the West Saxons, who were just straight up continental Germans. The Frisians are known to have comprised a substantial fraction of the invading Germanic tribes due to DNA testing and linguistics - both showing a marked similarity between the populations of modern coastal England and the portions of the German and Dutch costal areas from which the Frisians came.

The conversion to Christianity that began to occur in the 5th and 6th century had largely erradicated the pagan pantheon in the Anglo Saxon kingdoms by the time the Viking invasions began in earnest. That conversion was possibly the single biggest diff between the two closely related "Nordic" populations.
 

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Assassin's Creed: Valhalla will take place during this time period.
 

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They do. Of course they take some great liberties and make Rollo the brother of Ragnar.

nevertheless it's an interesting show and entertaining.
I'm on the DL from shoulder surgery a few weeks ago, so binge watching "The Last Kingdom". Outstanding series. Will have to go back and finish 'Vikings'.
 

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I'm on the DL from shoulder surgery a few weeks ago, so binge watching "The Last Kingdom". Outstanding series. Will have to go back and finish 'Vikings'.
Vikings was cool at first. I lost interest after season 5 or so.
 

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They had great names back then, didn't they?
Charles "The Hammer" Martel
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Two things:

1. Why is Charles "the hammer" holding an axe?

2. Pretty sure the Martells are from Dorne.
 

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I was talking with my dad this weekend about this thread. He said to check out the show The Last Kingdom.

Sharing is caring.
 

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Two things:

1. Why is Charles "the hammer" holding an axe?

2. Pretty sure the Martells are from Dorne.

He's a Frank and their signature battle implement was the Frankish Battle Axe.

That doesn't explain why the axe the sculpture is holding isn't a Frankish Battle Axe tho...

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He's a Frank and their signature battle implement was the Frankish Battle Axe.

That doesn't explain why the axe the sculpture is holding isn't a Frankish Battle Axe tho...

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Because the sculptor had no idea what a Frankish battle axe looked like. It's why you so often see anachronistic items in ancient art. It's how you get high medieval architecture in a scene taking place prior to the founding of the Roman Republic.

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Because the sculptor had no idea what a Frankish battle axe looked like. It's why you so often see anachronistic items in ancient art. It's how you get high medieval architecture in a scene taking place prior to the founding of the Roman Republic.

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That guy in the bottom right is behind the defense and wide open. Clearly not a Mullen led offensive.
 

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Because the sculptor had no idea what a Frankish battle axe looked like. It's why you so often see anachronistic items in ancient art. It's how you get high medieval architecture in a scene taking place prior to the founding of the Roman Republic.

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One that struck me was in one of Shakespeare's plays (Julius Caesar I think) he describes one of the Romans as wearing a doublet. Clearly, Shakespeare never laid eyes on a piece of classical sculpture.

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I’m pretty sure the Buchanan is in the blue.

Really any one of the people falling over at the slightest contact would fit the bill.

Also, back to that middle group...umm, what exactly is going on with the woman in pink behind the guy in orange. Was this one of those kinds of periods?
 

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Really any one of the people falling over at the slightest contact would fit the bill.

Also, back to that middle group...umm, what exactly is going on with the woman in pink behind the guy in orange. Was this one of those kinds of periods?

I think she’s wearing a strap on.
 

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