Kyle Trask justifying preseason respect

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The offensive tempo was so “erky-jerky.” I think we should play faster. It’s an equalizer when you have poor offensive line play. It makes the defense think too much. Hopefully with a solid returning quarterback and fairly experienced skill guys, we can play a lot faster this year. That should help the run game exponentially. And allow us to run more plays. So there’s more run opportunities.

Just wait and rest easy. Robbie Andreu will have his annual faster tempo article out as soon as a season occurring is confirmed.
 

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Did Mullen ever make this adjustment at MSU? When? Plus, his backups are Emory and Richardson who will be using practice time too.

I expect a bit less read option by game 5, provided Trask is not hurt already. But, it will be the same offense, just a few less calls. When we do run, it will struggle because we will keep the same plays designed for a running QB that is not in the game or put the running QB into the game allowing the quick adjustment to stacking the box.

Perhaps letting Emery throw more Improves the running a bit when he is in.
This. It just is what it is.

And people who don't understand football will blame the offensive line.

then be surprised when the Emory a(and whomever lines up at RB with him) averages 7 yards per carry behind the exact same line.
 

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We don't run a dive play. It is an inside zone, which requires the qb to hold the backside DE. Almost every running play other than a speed option requires the qb to hold the backside DE. Power, inside and outside zone. QB power where the backside DE gets held by the RB as he comes across would be the exception, but that is a QB designed run.

The zone run blocking scheme should require the playside LB to commit to one of 2 holes. When he does, the RB picks the other. Against a 4 wide look, you will typically have 6 in the box. With 5 OL, that leaves 1 if you put a hat on a hat. The QB is responsible for this one. This is the advantage of the SO over traditional I or single back offenses where the D doesn't key on the QB as an option runner.

Bro, I was giving generic examples of play types that do not require a QB to run. Designed handoff plays are just that. And you can run zone blocking without every play being a read option. Also, if you have 6 in the box, assuming you aren't counting a deep safety, with man 4 wide, you have a single high safety. At which point you check out to a pass. If the defense is in Dime, you typically have 5 on 5 for the first two levels and that's the RB's job on the 3rd level.

Now yes, a running QB definitely helps, but you can totally run plays without that threat in the run game. Plus, we don't always


This. It just is what it is.

And people who don't understand football will blame the offensive line.

then be surprised when the Emory a(and whomever lines up at RB with him) averages 7 yards per carry behind the exact same line.

I think there is some truth to this, but I also don't think our line has done well. Emory was stopped plenty last year. The best drive he had, in my opinion, was the drive against Auburn where it looked like he was now the starter. Why? They let him run the full offense including the threat of throwing (opening up the holes). And I'll also point to this part, Franks was not much better of a runner than Trask, but the running game was much better with him in during 2018. I assume your not giving the OL a free pass for 2019 (that pass blocking was atrocious as well), but wanted to comment just in case.
 

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Congrats to Trask!

Now, here's a certain someone reading this list...

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Congrats to Trask!

Now, here's a certain someone reading this list...

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Mehhhh:

The overall numbers look good for Trask but watch the game tape from the bowl victory over Virginia, and there might have been a half-dozen throws that could’ve been intercepted,” he said.

“His stat line on throws of more than 10 yards offers concern, too: 50% completions, 9 TDs, 6 INTs.”


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I think that is probably a lot more pessimistic that I am about Trash, but on the long list of things that are wrong with this offense, he is probably second from last (worst to best).
 

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I think there is some truth to this, but I also don't think our line has done well.
It is hard for me to tell exactly what their reads are and how they are being coached as they initially combo and climb. (Im sure Bush and you are better at this and I dont doubt they struggled. I almost never saw the LBs being bulldozed by a climbing OL.)

It is real easy for me to see the 80ish percent of the running plays that are options and see the unblocked DE hit our RB in the backfield.... except when Emory is in.
 

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Mehhhh:

The overall numbers look good for Trask but watch the game tape from the bowl victory over Virginia, and there might have been a half-dozen throws that could’ve been intercepted,” he said.

“His stat line on throws of more than 10 yards offers concern, too: 50% completions, 9 TDs, 6 INTs.”


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I think that is probably a lot more pessimistic that I am about Trash, but on the long list of things that are wrong with this offense, he is probably second from last (worst to best).

Yeah ok, a guy who has started like 7 games in his lifetime? The kid deserves lots of credit and I hope he gets it.
 

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Yeah ok, a guy who has started like 7 games in his lifetime? The kid deserves lots of credit and I hope he gets it.
He is a Cinderella and he can hit the short and medium stuff pretty well. Its all we need in this offense. (Even SOS made his money berween 11-17 yards.)

Way more important than having a cannon.
 

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Bro, I was giving generic examples of play types that do not require a QB to run. Designed handoff plays are just that. And you can run zone blocking without every play being a read option. Also, if you have 6 in the box, assuming you aren't counting a deep safety, with man 4 wide, you have a single high safety. At which point you check out to a pass. If the defense is in Dime, you typically have 5 on 5 for the first two levels and that's the RB's job on the 3rd level.

Now yes, a running QB definitely helps, but you can totally run plays without that threat in the run game. Plus, we don't always


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Since the backside DE isn't blocked in the zone blocking game, he would be allowed to crash from the backside. That is why the QB needs to hold him. 5 can't block 6. With a 2 high safety look, 5 can block 5 and you are playing g 7 on 5 inside the box. Advantage offense I the 5 OL can block their man.
 

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Since the backside DE isn't blocked in the zone blocking game, .
You mean OUR zone blocking scheme. Maybe Im tired but that makes no sense.

I mean, plenty of run of the mill zone blocking plays block the DE. Why almost every team runs Inside Zone

It is basically only the spread option teams that dont. We certainly didnt with Leak once Creyer finally forced Mullinz to add a FB and change the silly scheme.
 

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Mehhhh:

The overall numbers look good for Trask but watch the game tape from the bowl victory over Virginia, and there might have been a half-dozen throws that could’ve been intercepted,” he said.

“His stat line on throws of more than 10 yards offers concern, too: 50% completions, 9 TDs, 6 INTs.”


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I think that is probably a lot more pessimistic that I am about Trash, but on the long list of things that are wrong with this offense, he is probably second from last (worst to best).

Yes, his numbers look good. His game tape is even better. In the passing game he shows quick decisions, good decisions, good accuracy, and good, not great, arm strength. He's big, humble, loyal, and has ice in his veins under pressure. (In fact between his bad interview performance and the flat emotion he seems to play with he may to be tested to see if he's on some issues.) He is the biggest reason by far that UF had success on offense last year (the most we've had in years). Oh yeah, let's not forget that these were the first games he started since freshman ball in high school.

Too bad you chose his worst passing game as a starter to evaluate him. Too bad you won't let go of your stupid nickname for him. Too bad you're the worst Gator fan I've interacted with. ...not because you're ignorant, not because you're stupid, but because you use your prolific posting to mock a loyal Gator who is so easy to root for and so easy to like. Why? 'Cause you went all in on how bad he was and how he'd never even start and you'd rather be terrible to this young man, while enduring the well-deserved hazing here, than admit that he's performing really well. You'd rather be infamous in your wrongness than set aside your enormous arrogance and tell the truth about him.

Even when the glass is 7/8 full, all you want to talk about is the vacant 1/8. ...and the convex meniscus that you require to be above the brim in order for you to be satisfied.

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Compare these totals to Tebow's final year and remember that Tebow had a Heisman Trophy (shoulda had two) and 3.5 extra games - Trask didn't have an SEC Championship game and didn't play during the Miami game, little during UTM, and half of Kentucky. Trask also had a worse supporting cast - especially at OL.

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I'm really hoping for Trask's sake we have football this fall. He's been patient and worked hard to get to this point. Shame to see it go to waste.
 

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