PFF: Pump the brakes on Trask

Gator By Marriage · Aug 19, 2020

GatorJB said:
I would expect those kind of numbers from a guy who never started a game at the college or high school level. He's inexperienced, but unlike the guy before him, he at least seems to have the ability to learn and improve.

As I was dying for any sports over the last few months, I went back and watched a bunch of last years games. To your point, FF seemed to regress from where he was over the last few games in ‘18. Trask seemed to improve overall (with some peaks and valleys) as the season wore on. It really seemed KT’s biggest drawback was a lack of experience. Assuming there is football this fall, I guess we’ll find out if that was his biggest issue.

cover2 · Aug 19, 2020

He had a -13 differential in big-time throws and turnover-worthy plays last year (9:22), which was tied for fourth-worst in the country.

Makes me think that if that stat was better than fourth-worst in the country last year, we could have won, what, 7 or 8 more games? :dunno:

I suppose there are values in the overall metrics stats like that provide. Evaluators somewhere have a use for them. But as previously mentioned, what this Dallas Baptist reject accomplished in his first year as a starter (since middle school / jv) was pretty damn good. To try and spin it any other way looks kinda foolish imo.

MissouriGator · Aug 19, 2020

Trask is the LEAST of our worries at this point.
And luck, I don't think so. Ask Kentucky about "luck."
Or ask LSU. Yeah, we didn't win that game, but it had nothing to do with Trask and his "luck."
The whole article is bull****, and I'm a bit disappointed that some of you are buying in to it.

Gator4Life · Aug 19, 2020

I think Trask will do fine as long as we can put together an O/L that can block with time for him to make good decisions and also open holes that we can get a running game going through! You can't expect him to be excellent or even top end if he can't have time to read the feild or doesn't open holes for run to ease pressure on the pass game. I really believe that right now our offensive problems derive from lack luster
O/L play or lack of. If our offense could hold there line on pass and open hole on run plays I think Trask could suprise some with what he might possibly be capable of accomplishing

Opinions

MissouriGator · Aug 19, 2020

Trask is the best QB that we've had since Danny Wuerffel.
He's a better passer than Tebow, a better mind than Grossman; it's just too bad that he has to play the cards with Mullen. But I'm happy for him to be here at this time.
I'm more interested in how we're going to develop the o line and running game.
As far as defense is concerned, we'd better get some guys up front that can smack the opponent's o-line out of the way.
Just my opinion.

AuggieDosta · Aug 19, 2020

MissouriGator said:
Trask is the best QB that we've had since Danny Wuerffel.
He's a better passer than Tebow, a better mind than Grossman; it's just too bad that he has to play the cards with Mullen. But I'm happy for him to be here at this time.
I'm more interested in how we're going to develop the o line and running game.
As far as defense is concerned, we'd better get some guys up front that can smack the opponent's o-line out of the way.
Just my opinion.

Just wanted to put this here for posterity.

AlexDaGator · Aug 19, 2020

MissouriGator said:
Trask is the best QB that we've had since Danny Wuerffel.
He's a better passer than Tebow, a better mind than Grossman; it's just too bad that he has to play the cards with Mullen. But I'm happy for him to be here at this time.
I'm more interested in how we're going to develop the o line and running game.
As far as defense is concerned, we'd better get some guys up front that can smack the opponent's o-line out of the way.
Just my opinion.

Is Missouri’s post the WORST in the history of the GCMB?

-thumbs up for “yes”

-laugh for “emphatic yes”

-beer for “this board has seen posts by Alvin...but yes”

Alex.

Theologator · Aug 19, 2020

AlexDaGator said:
Is Missouri’s post the WORST in the history of the GCMB?

-thumbs up for “yes”

-laugh for “emphatic yes”

-beer for “this board has seen posts by Alvin...but yes”

Alex.

alcoholica · Aug 20, 2020

Gator By Marriage said:
As I was dying for any sports over the last few months, I went back and watched a bunch of last years games. To your point, FF seemed to regress from where he was over the last few games in ‘18. Trask seemed to improve overall (with some peaks and valleys) as the season wore on. It really seemed KT’s biggest drawback was a lack of experience. Assuming there is football this fall, I guess we’ll find out if that was his biggest issue.

That was my thought. Seemed like after the Auburn game, things started to really slow down for him and mistakes became fewer.

gatorev12 · Aug 20, 2020

Lies, damned lies, and statistics...

Look, the numbers said Franks was a "great" QB...but any fan over the past 3 years would say that numbers don't quite tell the whole story. Franks might have put up decent stats, but he wasn't an elite QB and showed as such in many, many games.

My point isn't to trash the guy, merely to point out that while Trask had some dangerous and iffy throws last year (some of which were turnovers), he *also* would make up for it later on in the game with crucial throws on 4th down or at critical junctures in the game when we needed to make a play. I could care less if Trask had 4 dangerous throws in 5 attempts in the first half...and it causes him to be low on whatever list this is: bottom line is that he almost always got better as the game went on and certainly as the season went on. He cut down on the strip/sack turnovers that plagued him early in the year and for a first-year starter, played pretty darn good. I don't know if he has a higher ceiling, but he has my trust going into this season; something I couldn't say for many of our recent QBs.

AuggieDosta · Aug 20, 2020

Theologator said:

Great clip! This movie evokes one word from me...

Best.
Movie.
Ever!

Uncle Rob · Aug 20, 2020

Joe Burrow also made a lot of "dangerous" throws last year. If the DBs had been better than his receivers, he could have thrown a lot of picks. That's not the way it worked out. Many DBs are DBs because they don't have receiver hands.

TheDouglas78 · Aug 20, 2020

53. FELEIPE FRANKS, ARKANSAS
Franks is no top-tier quarterback, he will certainly make the offense remarkably better in tandem with incoming offensive coordinator Kendal Briles — specifically within the deep passing attack (Franks had a 14-to-3 big-time throw to turnover-worthy play ratio on deep passes in 2018). Keep in mind, though, he did that with a great slew of receivers at Florida. While Arkansas will have an improvement at the quarterback position in Franks, it’s a marginal change and he will likely be at best an average quarterback considering the supporting cast.

soflagator · Aug 20, 2020

Basically reiterates what many of us said. Wish him the best, but Arkansas was probably not a very good landing spot for someone trying to make a 1 year push for the NFL. New HC, new OC, garbage roster and in the toughest division in college sports.

divits · Aug 20, 2020

Gator4Life said:
Opinions

My opinion is that your emoji game needs work. :jog:

Bushmaster · Aug 20, 2020

You know what I see?

A career backup since the 9th grade comes in during an SEC road game at night down by 3 scores in the 3rd quarter and pulls out a win.

A career backup since the 9th grade starts an SEC road game at LSU, the eventual undefeated national champions, and goes toe to toe with the Heisman winner and has his team leading in the second half of that game.

You can yap stats all you want, NFL yak yak, but the fact is this kid has so little game experience he is going to make some stupid decisions. Thats QB life. He has had a little over half a season of starting experience since the 9th grade and he looked damn good all season. Can't wait to see what he does this year.

itsgr82bag8r · Aug 20, 2020

gatormandan said:
Still better than Franks ever was.

By a LARGE margin.

lizardbreath · Aug 20, 2020

My first thought when I saw the thread title was "Please don't feed the donkey." But upon further reflection:

1. There ARE NOT 47 current college QBs who are "better" than Kyle Trask has been to this point in their respective careers.
2. Even trying to apply inflexible, generalized standards based on someone's hypothetical "NFL potential" is of little use in quantifying the probable effectiveness of a college QB. Also, applying some "what if" factor to a "scientific" analysis is highly questionable when it comes to the question of maintaining some degree of actual objectivity.
3. The fact that the list of QBs rated above Trask contains a considerable number of ass clowns who haven't done much of anything against quality opponents tells me that the geniuses responsible for this claptrap are full of schytt.
4. Considering his lack of playing time, the conclusion that he makes a large number of really bad decisions is just some BS these numbnuts pulled out of their collective bung holes to down-grade a player's rating because it apparently amused them to do so.
5. While I strongly disagree with the conclusion that Trask is the best QB at UF since DW, he is almost certainly better than anyone we've had since Tebow's departure. We're lucky to have him. That is all.

Theologator · Aug 20, 2020

AuggieDosta said:
Great clip! This movie evokes one word from me...

Best.
Movie.
Ever!

I always thought Mel Brooks was the lead dog on that project, but it was Gene Wlider’s baby and he pulled Brooks in for tweaks. Great great movie.

TheDouglas78 · Aug 20, 2020

Theologator said:
I always thought Mel Brooks was the lead dog on that project, but it was Gene Wlider’s baby and he pulled Brooks in for tweaks. Great great movie.

My aunt who got her theater degree at UF got to work with both men at different times later in their careers. Could not say enough nice things about either, especially Mel Brooks.

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