I’m curious about UCF.......

fasonfan · Sep 23, 2020

ThreatMatrix said:
You are what you recruit. They recruit in the 50's so they're a 50ish team. Why is this even a discussion?
They recruit the best in their conference so they beat the teams in their conference. When they play a P5 team they give them a good game for 3.5 quarters until adrenaline wears off and depth becomes a factor.

Not entirely true. For what they recruit they should be a top 50 team they are better than that. They outplay many power 5 teams and recruit way worse. I think the problem many have with them is they are overconfident and claim championships which is absurd.

AFCatholicGator · Sep 23, 2020

fasonfan said:
Not entirely true. For what they recruit they should be a top 50 team they are better than that. They outplay many power 5 teams and recruit way worse. I think the problem many have with them is they are overconfident and claim championships which is absurd.

Exactly good take

ThreatMatrix · Sep 23, 2020

fasonfan said:
Not entirely true. For what they recruit they should be a top 50 team they are better than that. They outplay many power 5 teams and recruit way worse. I think the problem many have with them is they are overconfident and claim championships which is absurd.

You are what you talent is. Their talent level is Vandy-ish in a good year. If they played 10 top 25 teams in a year they'd lose 9.

Renard904 · Sep 23, 2020

Everyone always gets nervous before the first game. P5 game anyways. But let’s take a chill pill. UCF isn’t a real threat. Every so often we get one of these stories. I remember USF was hot a few years back and beat FSU and everyone was saying the same things then. These directional schools aren’t EVER gonna compete with the big boys on a consistent level. They don’t recruit well enough or consistent enough to really compete. Can they beat UF in a one-off? Of course. But we beat them 9 out of 10 times. They would essentially be a Kentucky level program in the SEC.

Swamp Donkey · Sep 24, 2020

fasonfan said:
Not entirely true. For what they recruit they should be a top 50 team they are better than that. They outplay many power 5 teams and recruit way worse. I think the problem many have with them is they are overconfident and claim championships which is absurd.

no they are not. they're just good for one game. last year they weren't even good enough for Conference USA part 2.

Swamp Donkey · Sep 24, 2020

Renard904 said:
. They would essentially be a Kentucky level program in the SEC.

not really. hell we are a Kentucky level program. we're lucky as hell but they're not on a four-game winning streak.

Renard904 · Sep 24, 2020

Swamp Donkey said:
not really. hell we are a Kentucky level program. we're lucky as hell but they're not on a four-game winning streak.

That’s true. I think we WERE a Kentucky level program. We seem to be rising slightly, but I’ll hold off judgement until we actually beat them. And I mean really beat them. Not this getting lucky crap.

BMF · Sep 24, 2020

The B12 should have grown some balls and added UCF when they added WVU. It would have come w/ geographical issues, like WVU does, but it would have also put them in the state of Florida. They have Baylor in their conference, for crying out loud.

I agree w/ Law that they'd be below UK - as it stands. But if they moved to a P5 conference their recruiting would improve and it would push them into a top 40 type program. Otherwise, if they played a P5 schedule (8 to 9 games/year) they're a 5-7 to 8-4 (at best) type program.

TheDouglas78 · Sep 24, 2020

Renard904 said:
That’s true. I think we WERE a Kentucky level program. We seem to be rising slightly, but I’ll hold off judgement until we actually beat them. And I mean really beat them. Not this getting lucky crap.

Last time we beat Kentucky like sofla beats his meat to ladies feet, Del Taco was our quarterback.... think about that.

Jbossgator8 · Sep 24, 2020

UCF always plays an EASY schedule. They don't play anyone at all really. Easy 10 wins or more a year for them.

ESPN FPI projects 2020 college football strength of schedule rankings

Pablos Tunnel · Sep 24, 2020

JDW said:
He also has a blank slate in his first game because he’s an unknown entity for Grantham

That is why I think we only win by 7-10

5-Star Finger · Sep 24, 2020

AFCatholicGator said:
how good are they?

AFCatholicGator said:
Just curious as to where you guys think they “really” should be ranking wise etc.

lagator · Sep 24, 2020

Swamp Donkey said:
no they are not. they're just good for one game. last year they weren't even good enough for Conference USA part 2.

ThreatMatrix · Sep 24, 2020

BMF said:
The B12 should have grown some balls and added UCF when they added WVU. It would have come w/ geographical issues, like WVU does, but it would have also put them in the state of Florida. They have Baylor in their conference, for crying out loud.

I agree w/ Law that they'd be below UK - as it stands. But if they moved to a P5 conference their recruiting would improve and it would push them into a top 40 type program. Otherwise, if they played a P5 schedule (8 to 9 games/year) they're a 5-7 to 8-4 (at best) type program.

And if my Aunt had nuts she'd be my Uncle. They are what they recruit. According to 247 roster composite that's 61st (Vandy, the closest SEC team, is 54th). Joining a P5 conference wouldn't miraculously give them a big jump in recruiting. In fact , you could argue, recruiting just became harder because now you're up against the big boys.

The point is moot. UCF won't be invited to a P5 conference anytime soon. They will continue to recruit 60ish. They will continue to beat the sub 60ish teams in their conference. And they will continue to whine like SJWs that they deserve to be respected.

chferg · Sep 24, 2020

BMF said:
The B12 should have grown some balls and added UCF when they added WVU. It would have come w/ geographical issues, like WVU does, but it would have also put them in the state of Florida. They have Baylor in their conference, for crying out loud.

I agree w/ Law that they'd be below UK - as it stands. But if they moved to a P5 conference their recruiting would improve and it would push them into a top 40 type program. Otherwise, if they played a P5 schedule (8 to 9 games/year) they're a 5-7 to 8-4 (at best) type program.

Nah UCF would have been a terrible add for the Big 12. The Big 12 had the opportunity to add Cinci and Louisville when they lost Nebraska, Mizzou, A&M, and Colorado.

Add those two then pick up West Virginia which now leaves you with one team to fill the void and you could take your pick from BYU or Houston. BYU is a little out there for travel but Texas doesn't want Houston. So it just comes down to which one most of the teams would agree on.

Himey · Sep 24, 2020

Jbossgator8 said:
UCF always plays an EASY schedule. They don't play anyone at all really. Easy 10 wins or more a year for them.

ESPN FPI projects 2020 college football strength of schedule rankings

What a load of crap that list is. Florida is listed at 41st SOS and FSU at 42?

fasonfan · Sep 24, 2020

chferg said:
Nah UCF would have been a terrible add for the Big 12. The Big 12 had the opportunity to add Cinci and Louisville when they lost Nebraska, Mizzou, A&M, and Colorado.

Add those two then pick up West Virginia which now leaves you with one team to fill the void and you could take your pick from BYU or Houston. BYU is a little out there for travel but Texas doesn't want Houston. So it just comes down to which one most of the teams would agree on.

BYU is not a power 5 team.. .They are so much drama with their non conference thing which is crazy considering they should of never left their conference... They kept thinking they were better than their conference. Now they sit alone waiting and waiting like some Power 5 is finally going to add them... Nope they need to go to beg their way back to the Mountain west or whatever they were in....

The Lateral Move · Sep 24, 2020

fasonfan said:
... I think the problem many have with them is they are overconfident and claim championships which is absurd.

This x 1000000000

They'd get a lot more respect if they weren't so incredibly annoying and delusional. Their fans are awful in that regard but it even rubs off on their players. Their QB claimed just a week or two ago to be the best program in Florida

fasonfan · Sep 24, 2020

The Lateral Move said:
This x 1000000000

They'd get a lot more respect if they weren't so incredibly annoying and delusional. Their fans are awful in that regard but it even rubs off on their players. Their QB claimed just a week or two ago to be the best program in Florida

yep, people on here give them no credit because of their cockiness.. Honestly I wouldn't want to play them because they have all year to get ready for us and we have so many more games to play. Gators are the better team though.

Gator By Marriage · Sep 24, 2020

The Lateral Move said:
This x 1000000000

They'd get a lot more respect if they weren't so incredibly annoying and delusional. Their fans are awful in that regard but it even rubs off on their players. Their QB claimed just a week or two ago to be the best program in Florida

IMO, they're making a mistake by insisting on home and homes to play a P5 team. To me, if you want to convince folks you belong with the big boys, be willing to play anyone, anywhere. Anything less makes you suspect.

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