Truth Takes: Truth Goes Nanners...Again

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Should the Bama and LSU DC's be fired as well? They can't use the lack of recruiting excuse.

Too soon to say for Bama. This is their first truly bad defensive performance. On the other hand, LSU absolutely needs to fire their DC. Their defense is worse than ours.
 

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It just plain sucks when you lose a game you're supposed to win. We probably do win that game if Pierce is running the ball in the fourth instead of Davis, but it doesn't matter. Defense was atrocious again, and they cost us a win. Weird that this year is the exact opposite of the last decade.

There were obviously way more than 25,000 in the stands, and A&M should be fined for lying about the number of people in the stands, but Dan acting like they lost the game because of that is so petty and being a sore loser. Dan needs to look himself in the mirror, man up, admit this is on him, and actually do something about it. Several of us fans saw the writing on the wall years ago through their recruiting. It baffles me that he's just now starting to notice the problem... maybe. If Grantham and English are still on the sidelines in 2021, then Mullen has no future here. His future is looking bleak enough as it is.

On a positive note, Trask is still in the running for the Heisman. We still control our own destiny, but if this year is the next 2007, then I hope we end with a Heisman winner too. Yes, championships are preferred, so don't misunderstand. I simply would rather have a Heisman winner than nothing at all. Unfortunately, Lawrence is playing great ball and is the heavy favorite.
I think Lawrence looks good, but not that great.
 

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Too soon to say for Bama. This is their first truly bad defensive performance. On the other hand, LSU absolutely needs to fire their DC. Their defense is worse than ours.
they at least have the excuse of half their team deciding to opt out.
 

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I think Lawrence looks good, but not that great.

Lawrence has the benefit of being the preseason favorite, having extra games to pad his stats, and a probable undefeated regular season. He'll need to give voters a reason not to vote for him. Hasn't done that so far, but if Kyle surpasses him statistically, then he's got a shot.
 

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This loss is not 90% on the defense, this loss is 100% on the defense. But even more so, this loss is ultimately on Mullen. Accepting the piss-poor defensive performance going back to last year in on the head coach. And because of this I have come to two conclusions:

1. I'm off the Mullen train. Blaming it on the offense and not firing the dwag (I refuse to use his name, he's not willing to make the decisions to win championships.
2. 1500 yards in 3 games, it won't be just Georgia that we lose to going forward.
This is significant. I had hoped you would be proven right Rocket. Sad to see you on this side of the ledger.
 

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This is significant. I had hoped you would be proven right Rocket. Sad to see you on this side of the ledger.
Yeah, it makes me sad, too. I gauge these things as to how close the end is.

Perhaps Dancing Dan will fire or demote Fat Dwag.
 

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On a positive note, Trask is still in the running for the Heisman. We still control our own destiny, but if this year is the next 2007, then I hope we end with a Heisman winner too. Yes, championships are preferred, so don't misunderstand. I simply would rather have a Heisman winner than nothing at all. Unfortunately, Lawrence is playing great ball and is the heavy favorite.

Although we would all prefer championships, at least a Heisman would be a good consolation. I am emphasizing the last part because if the two of them are similar in numbers, I 100% believe the person playing real football teams deserves the Heisman while the other one would essentially be a lifetime achievement award type deal. SEC defenses are down as a whole this year, but I would still hold them up over the ACC everyday and twice on Sundays.

Too soon to say for Bama. This is their first truly bad defensive performance.

I mean, they did allow 300 yards by Mond...j/k trying to lighten the mood a little. I mean they did allow 300 to Mond, but..,

Perhaps Dancing Dan will fire or demote Fat Dwag.

After watching the post-game to see Dan's mood during the press conference, I would be shocked if there aren't some changes this week. Maybe not a firing or public demotion, but I do not see things being the same next Saturday. I don't know if that is we start all underclassmen or what, but we are going to try something.
 

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Well, going into the game I felt good in a shootout based on our offense. In many ways, they did not disappoint. I also said two things I thought would be an issue:
  1. If we try to force the run knowing their secondary was awful.
  2. If we turned the ball over.
Well...we had the advantage in that in trading scores our scores put them up while their scores will to tie until we did both #1 and #2.

Now I know what you're thinking, "Truth, what about that bs piss poor defense?" Don't worry, I'll get there, trust me I will. But I will take a minute to acknowledge there was more to this loss (though we will go 90% defense on this one).

Offense
Trask had over 300 yards and 4 TD's. I know some will be tempted to "ho hum" those numbers as we are used to seeing Trask put up those kinds of numbers, but remember it was just the beginning of last season when we would be building a statue for any QB able to put up numbers like that again. Kyle Trask did about what all he could do in this game.

Toney is a beast and if there were questions about how big of an improvement he's made at the position, they were answered today. Great game by him.

It sucks that Pitts stopped being at 100% halfway through, but we seemed to cover for it decently well overall.

Wright and Pierce have earned the right to be featured backs in this offense. Davis, I was praising you, but you gave the game away at the most crucial spot. Sorry, I can't trust you anymore. Not when I've got a Pierce and Wright and a Lingard waiting in the wings.

I said after that first down that we would run the ball and I wish I was wrong. Why you take the game out of the hands of the top QB in the SEC is beyond me. Awful, terrible, no good play call. Now, with all that said, the majority of this loss is to be pointed at the...

Defense
We've given up about 1,500 yards in three games. I thought last week wasn't great, but Ole Miss was what it was. Mullen (on the post game show) basically blaming the offense not scoring 4 TD's in the last 4 drives for the loss is infuriating.

The defense forced one punt and one turnover, that is unacceptable. Not being able to cover the slant is unacceptable. When my brother, seeing the way the teams are lined up, can tell we are giving up 4th down before the play is run, something is amiss. Granted, we can't waste our last timeout with that much time left. Hell, allowing 80% on third down is unacceptable.

Marco Wilson, you've regressed, I would not mind watching Hill or Kimbrough take your place because at least they haven't been here as long to show this.

Stiner, any playing you is coaching malpractice.

Kyree Campbell, hopefully, enough people ask you about what selfish thing you did to keep yourself out for so long that you learn to be a person who cares about others. No, I'm not talking about caring about fans, I'm talking about all the teammates you have let down.

Ron English, your safeties have been a liability for three years. I'm tired of it, I've been tired of it, and I can't wait to see who replaces you. How do I see Vanderbilt have safeties making big hits as receivers catch the ball

Todd Grantham, if you make it through the season, consider yourself lucky. Also, aren't you Mr. Blitz? Where have the blitzes been? When I saw them today, we seemed to rattle Mond, but of course, we wouldn't want to do that. Also, why does your d-line wait a full second after the ball is snapped to rush? It became a joke to watch after I noticed it each time. Ultimately, the buck stops with you. Seeing the numbers both LSU and Mizzou put up this week, it looks like you are coaching to get to the bye week right now.

We had a two score lead in the second half, and we blew it because we couldn't get a stop. I am doing what I can to try and stay somewhat calm as I get to this point in my writing. I've been writing for almost an hour, writing, deleting, trying not to go too far.

I honestly do try to keep it positive, and even contrarian when everyone is piling on (most of the time rightfully) on a person, coach, or unit to try and soften it up a bit. This defense, however, is the worst defense I've ever seen at Florida and that includes 2007. 2007 got stops when they needed it except for very few times. This defense barely gets stops period and sure didn't down the stretch today.

We have lost the 4th quarter this season so far 20-38, thank you Mick Hubert for that statistic. That's unacceptable.

I'll be blunt (and this is the last part I'm writing on this post after everything else), I'd bench every senior you is underperforming on defense that you can. Let them know that since they are no better than true freshmen at this stage, you would rather players who have the capability of improving and helping the team in the future. Since we can only get one stop a game, there is no way a walk on can be worse than the defensive starters. Heck, we might find one of those walk on gems that happens from time to time. Open all positions to competition. PUBLICLY announce you are having open tryouts for starting defensive positions and that any frat boy, computer science "nerd", dental, law, and even feminist studies major has a chance to start just by showing up. Show the fans, the players, and everyone else that you know this is wrong and not the Gator Standard. I'm also already sick of the 5 minutes I heard of Carbozo defending this defense like he did the 2017 offense while waiting to hear Mullen's comments.

Positives
Okay, I will try a few here:
  • Wright and Pierce look like they could be the real deal (I can't hate on the ypc for Pierce as one of his few carries was a 1 yard TD). We just need I line I feel comfortable behind and yet, I honestly would rather see few carries because I believe in the passing game so much.
  • Florida has never had an unbeaten season and the last two Natty's had losses to SEC West opponents in October (spare me the comparison between the defenses, I already know).
  • We can score a ton of points.
  • I saw Trevez Johnson in there, with how bad the defense is, I like us saying "screw it" and seeing what the younger guys can do. They cannot do worse. I would love for anyone who watched the defense today tell me how that would be possible.
  • Trask is still on pace for over 3,000 yards passing, and 40 TD's in the regular season. That would be a UF record.
  • At least we aren't LSU...well, we have them next week, but that's a problem for next week.

Offense is awesome, Defense is the worst. Turnover cost us today because the defense leaves for no margin of error. Seriously, rushing 3 or 4 as much as we did, that's embarrassing. I'm really biting my lip right now, have at it Gator Chatter.

Go Gators!

Nice, balanced write-up. I absolutely agree with your assessment of the defense being the worst ever - at least in my personal recollection as a Gator fan. Just to make sure that I was correct, I went back and checked the stats of the abysmal 1979 team for comparison. Sure as hell...that '79 team "only" gave up 265 points in 11 games. This years "defense" is on pace to give up over 330 points in only ten games. Talk about towering ineptitude...
 

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Davis is our Ernest Byner. This isn’t this first time he’s been butterfingers. Mullen should’ve known better.

it was our beat shot under Mullen and now it’s gone. No way we beat UGA. They’ll rip us a new ahole.

unless Richardson becomes Cam/Tebow 2.0, game over
 

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Davis is our Ernest Byner. This isn’t this first time he’s been butterfingers. Mullen should’ve known better.

it was our beat shot under Mullen and now it’s gone. No way we beat UGA. They’ll rip us a new ahole.

unless Richardson becomes Cam/Tebow 2.0, game over

You point out the huge mistake at RB, ignore the horrendous D and decide to focus on QB as the position where we need the most improvement?

We need Pierce to get more carries and a miracle to fix our D. QB is good.
 

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Should the Bama and LSU DC's be fired as well? They can't use the lack of recruiting excuse.
Amazing that the Dwags seem to be the only elite defense in the SEC this year.
 

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Kestahn single-handedly cost us both the LSU and UGA games that year with his choking, inexcusable fumbles.
 

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Actually, with all the 2007 comparisons lately, he's our Kestahn Moore.


Always love to see a Slo-Mo mention. The two guys who played at completely different speeds than their 40 times in pajamas were Slo-Mo and Percy Harvins. Slo-Mo actually had a respectable 40 time but you never would have guessed it watching him in pads. Harvins had a really good 40 time in pajamas but watching him in pads you would have thought it was even faster.
 

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Gonna go a little further back. I see him as our Willie McClendon.
Watched some old SOS game highlights during the offseason. I forgot how much bigger he looked compared to Rhett. Did he have small hands? Undisciplined? Wondering how a big strong RB could be prone to fumbles?
 

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Watched some old SOS game highlights during the offseason. I forgot how much bigger he looked compared to Rhett. Did he have small hands? Undisciplined? Wondering how a big strong RB could be prone to fumbles?

I just always remember him holding the ball way out in his arm instead of close to his body. Used to give my father and grandfather a heart attack.

Odd fact. Once we got the final stop against fsu in ‘91, Spurrier actually put him in at RB rather than Rhett to help run things out. About as shocking as Davis being in there yesterday.
 

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